steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
OK, all you C++ coders out there, Microsoft released a beta of Service Pack 1 version of Visual C++ Express 2005. In other words, a new version of the best free C++ IDE for Windows with a whole bunch of bug fixes has been released. Honestly, the only problem I saw with the first one is that the Intellisense/Code completion would occasionally miss certain structures. Get it here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=47805785-55AD-4A44-9100-E814286FDF63&displaylang=en Oh yeah, there is also a new Visual C# Express SP1 beta available. ------------------ |
Lazarus Member Posts: 1668 From: USA Registered: 06-06-2006 |
Thanks for the link! Laz |
SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
Woohoo!!!! Thanks for the info. It is a beta and looks like the final may be released at the end of the month. I'll be gettin' C# Express. |
fearless Member Posts: 91 From: Romania, Tg Mures Registered: 11-26-2005 |
I wander if they indend to keep VS 2005 Express free after November. When they had it released they made mention it will stay free only for a year. |
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steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
All the Express versions of Visual Studio are now "free forever" from Microsoft. ------------------ |
kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
They said all along that they would be charging for express after one year. It will be interesting to see. |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
Hmmmm, seems like the 'free forever' announcement came out at the beginning of this year, or late last year. In any case, the Express versions are truly free with no expectations to charge for it anytime soon. I highly recommend downloading. I really can't believe these are free as they are extremely well done with very nice features. I really like the C# IDE. I plan to integrate with SQL Express soon. And might take a look at the web ASP Express one as well, just so I can at least have a background and understanding of that Express tool as well. |
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fearless Member Posts: 91 From: Romania, Tg Mures Registered: 11-26-2005 |
hm looks like "free for a year" was just marketing math, not that I'm not happy it got free forever =]. |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
When MS made the 'free forever' announcement, it was also prefaced with something like, "The response to the Express Editions has been overwhelming." "We did not expect so much excitement." It certainly gets C# and Web Development (two very big development pushes) in the hands of MANY people. Add to that the free SQL Express Database and you really do get all you need for free...and into the hands of university students. Don't get me wrong, though. The Express editions do have limitations and are not necessarily the right choice for some people or organizations. But they certainly are not shabby in their abilities either. They are not just dumb-downed versions of the full-version, but actually provide a lot of depth and functionality. That's what really surprises me about them being free! And think about this. Microsoft chose XNA to work only on C# Express for the initial release. Not even Professional. [This message has been edited by SSquared (edited October 18, 2006).] |
Jari Member Posts: 1471 From: Helsinki, Finland Registered: 03-11-2005 |
What, are you saying that the usage time wont be limited after and that you can use it long as you want? That would be awesome, the patch was good too. ------------------ [VoHW] (Help needed) [Blog] - Truedisciple (mp3) |
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steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
The reason that companies will still get Professional is that you need it to support legacy MFC apps. The Express editions also don't allow plug-ins, and there are many useful plugins available for VS Pro. ------------------ |
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SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
Here is a rundown of some of the differences: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/products/compare/default.aspx A big missing feature from Express Editions is the integration with the Team Server. It's a way to better integrate all bugs, issues, development teams, etc. Express has no version control integration whereas all the other editions at least integrate with Visual SourceSafe. For small teams or individual use, this isn't really an issue, and that is for whom the Express Editions are geared. So far, the only limitation I have really come up against is with the visual database editor. The Express editions only integrate visually with MS SQL. You can still do everything programatically to MySQL or your DB of choice, but visually, it's MS SQL only. It's an aspect of the IDE I want to understand, so I have decided I need to use MS SQL (I have been using MySQL and Firebird Databases). And like Steveth said, C++ Express is missing MFC, a HUGE missing whole for many companies. Basically wiping out any use of C++ Express for most companies. |