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GAME IDEA (oh, plz God let this be unique... and if not, then i won't care) – Realm Master

Realm Master

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Name 'o Da Game: The Good Sheperd (spll check on "Sheperd")

Story: Your an ex-gang member (or just ex-some-guy-who-lived-on-the-street) and you were taken in by the church and born again. Now, you set out on a quest to find your old street friends, and show them how great God is, and that he has love for everybody. Your story, begins there.

Game Play: Navigate the streets of some city searching for your old friends (or possibly anybody, i dunno). There are gangs, bars, hotels, you name it, its there. Once you find your friends, you are able to hook up with them without looking all over the city to find them. Then its the players job to tell them about the wonders of Christ and keep them from sins such as: Drinking, Fighting (gang shootings, stabbings, drive-bys and such... is that too extreme?), sex (oooh... that just freaks me out... *shudder*), drugs, etc. Each friend has a different attidude and mind set. Each one can only be pursuaded in his(/her) unique way. And, for the sake of excitment, the player can find himself in the middle of shootings, drv bys and such (he dosn't pick up a gun... well, he can, but it is inadvisable, makes you not-as-goodly).

Cool Programming Stuff: Each Friend (possibly even just plain people (IF you are able to tell strangers about christ, might be tough to do) goes about his day as any other person would... each friend has his (/her) preferences and attitudes, some friends might work hard for money, and then blow it all and get drunk, some might take place in gang wars, or something better than all of that crud, depends on the friend. Each friend is created with different personalities and strenghs/weaknesses. Since the AI (hopefully) will be complex, two of the player's friends might be able to talk to each other! ! (yes, im reaching here...)

im trying REALLY hard to come up with ideas for Christain Games, after being given the question: "Are you living your life for God, or for yourself?" At a YoungLife camp i was at. Atch! some idiot is honking like mad in my neiborhood, its driving me nuts... ahh, it stopped.

Anyway, waddya think?

Lava, if its been done, PM somebody ELSE to tell me, you don't want to be the bearer of bad news every single time.

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HanClinto

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Wow, RM! This is a pretty good idea!

I picture a sort of game where one person needs one thing from someone else, a whole chain of puzzles and such.

I think this could be really neat! Good job!

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Lava
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I really like this game idea! That would be so cool! I had an idea for a game where you have to get job, you can get hired and fired, and you could buy stuff, but I never really implemented God into the whole thing, but you did! which is awesome!

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crazyishone

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one of the few original game ideas i have seen (In Christian games). Me likes. Hey, and not a single mention of the end-times! Woot!

(ive got nothing against it, but sooner or later we're going to have to come up with better material than the same tired variations on the book of revelations.)

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You think its good? reallY?
an nobody has taken it?!?!

AWESOME!!!
aach, bed time, got to go.

thanks and bye!

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ArchAngel

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sounds like a dating sim, except for evangelizing...

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Realm Master

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??? what in the world did it have to do with dating?

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HeardTheWord

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Yeah, the preferences/attitudes part sounds a lot like a dating sim. However, this has much more potential than any dating sim.

Coming up with something "original" is pretty near impossible. Go for innovative (a twist on something that already exists). Great idea!

crazyishone

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orginal is near impossible?you really think so?
i think that would be easy to think when we have been exposed to mostly american games, but If you have seen some of the weird stuff coming out of Japan, you'll realize originality is possible. You just have to take a chance with the market.

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Yeah just don't come out with stuff too much out there, otherwise the majority of the people won't accept it, though something revolutionary sparks people's interest. Most ideas aren't accepted right away, it's takes a long time and even another person\company to take the idea and then it becomes a big thing, of course alot ideas don't work that way, sometimes they take off right away.

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Realm Master

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it was NOT based off of a dating sim!!!

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ArchAngel

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I'm not saying it is. you, personally, don't see the type who would play them.

and being original, well, could be very well impossible, considering that all your knowledge and skills came from an environment which people share, whether it be society or biological factors. but now I'm starting to be extremely legalistic in the term original.

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crazyishone

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i am reffering to original ideas, in the simplest sense. lets try not to over-analyze...just this once...

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kiwee

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...hasn't that already been done....

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Lava
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Though one point I would like to make on the game idea is that in real life we cannot convince people to become Christians, we have to leave the convincing up to the Holy Spirit, and we just have to plant seeds. That's one thing I learned when street witnessing.

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Realm Master

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*splutter!* NEEERRRRRROOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW CRASH!!!!

well, there goes THAT idea....

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Lava
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You don't have to throw it out, pray about it, ask God where to guide you concerning it, remember it's a game IDEA, it's not the final verdict.

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CPUFreak91

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Sounds a lot like a christian GTA Vice city. Heck it would rock if it were programmed that way!!

You should have the character doge bullets and stuff in a gang gunfight

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Realm Master

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yes, its like that. Only you don't hijack cars...

in stead of like convincing, you just talk about jesus, and say how great he is and stuff like that.
How else do you tell a friend of the glory of Jesus? ?

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Blessed are those who show mercy.
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Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right.
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quote:
Originally posted by Realm Master:

How else do you tell a friend of the glory of Jesus? ?


........By showing that your different in how you act and live your life.

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Realm Master

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yes, but how do AI's "notice your actions?" (btw, this is kinda like an RPG, select what you say and stuff... so maybe.... its possible...)

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Brandon

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quote:
Originally posted by dedicatedrider:
........By showing that your different in how you act and live your life.

Amen to that!

quote:
Originally posted by Realm Master:
yes, but how do AI's "notice your actions?" (btw, this is kinda like an RPG, select what you say and stuff... so maybe.... its possible...

You can have a set of actions that the player can do, if an AI is in certain range of the player then you can have the AI record the players actions into a database or something.

I'd recommend you to start off on something small like maybe have it setup in a small neighborhood. Have certain things happen to the player; he gets bullied, his best friends big brother gets drafted, or someone steals his bike or something, and have a few different ways that the player could respond to whatever situation that he finds himself in.

This can be really simple as well, you don't need a lot of graphics and such, make it story and choice oriented, make those things the most worked on and impressive. Gameplay could consist of walking, running, jumping, talking, and selecting choices for the situation you are in. Just some crazy ideas from me. I like what you have so far.

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quote:
Originally posted by Realm Master:
yes, its like that. Only you don't hijack cars...

Yes.

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crazyishone

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you can't "convince" them, but you can lead them and guide thembysaying the right things. IE,has anyone here played KOTOR? remember the part where you are trying to bring back a jedi that recently went dark? (on dantooine) and a few other such instances.....
these worked well.You had to saythe right things based on their "personality."

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hmmm... okay... but the charachter (player) isn't a small boy, hes a... hmm... say 20 yr old guy (or girl, dpending on which you choose for the sake of smoothness, the charachter is a guy right now, okay?) living in the city. He used to be a gang-ish type of guy, untill someone showed him the ways of christ, now he is roaming the city once again, but this time, with a different style of living... i thought it would be a lot more fun if it were in a city, because its larger: there fore more fun to explore, and gives him more opportunities to "show" the grace of God to other people. He can tell about the wonders of God to his friends, and show them what God has changed in him (not like "here, let me show you" you just go around the city, doing good deeds.)

and, of course, for guys like me and CPUfreak, you can find yourself in the middle of a gang shoot-out, and (oh, this would be cool) you can tackle other guys to prevent them from being shot: like say one of his friends were in the gang fight (yes, they CAN die (scary)) and he gets shot at, everything goes in slow motion and he can tackle him to the ground to save him. Of course, it would be inadviable ot pick up a gun and start shooting at the other side... not a good way to show your friends how great God's love is (i.e. "God loves you too! Now GO TOO HELL!")
...wow.... i was trying ot be funny, but I think thats scary....

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kiwee

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how about, when a gang member dies, you can raise him to life if your FP (Faith Points) are high enough??

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quote:
Originally posted by kiwee:
how about, when a gang member dies, you can raise him to life if your FP (Faith Points) are high enough??

That's awful! :-P

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crazyishone

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haha that is the first DE-structive criticism ive ever seen on CCN! shame! shame!
lol, just kidding. (about the shame anyway)

realm, try to make the story for the character have an ultimae goal. I think people like to know why they're doing stuff in games...or at least be given promising foreshadowing...
i dont think that the motivation of helping your friends will be enough to drive the game. then again, it would be nice to see entertainment that was relatively simple....still, consider what I said.

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What Crazyishone just said reminds me (remotely connected though), Realm also ask yourself "what audience am I trying reach? the saved or unsaved?"

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crazyishone

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i suggest targeting neither. in this way, you will target both. Make a moral game based on this idea, make it fun. Watch who buys it.

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Realm Master

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Right now, i'm just trying to think of an idea that dosn't evolve blasting alien's heads off with 10 gauge shotguns or hewing through mythical monsters with swords... the character's ultimate goal to to evangalize his friends, because he can't bear the thought of their souls buring in hell for all eternity.

BTW: was that meant-to-be-joke funny or scary to you guys?

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Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right.
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kiwee

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quote:
Originally posted by Realm Master:
BTW: was that meant-to-be-joke funny or scary to you guys?


joke? what joke??????

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quote:
Originally posted by Realm Master:
sex (oooh... that just freaks me out... *shudder*)


I dont get it... who says the guy isnt married? yo do realize that sex is biblical and created by god right?...... then agian with RM............. (normaly this is where I would say "Whatever" But this time I just cant)

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Realm Master

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its one of those.... Realm Master... things

seesh! I dunno, maby he IS married, then sex would be okay, but if he WASN'T married, then sex = BIG NO NO! And, many of his friends are probably not married, so sex for them = big no no too.

this, was the "joke": "God loves you too! Now GO TOO HELL!" (Read my post above your Faith Points post to understand the whole thing.)

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God rules!

Blessed are those who show mercy.
They will be shown mercy. - Matthew 5:7

Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right.
The kingdom of hevan bleongs to them.-Matthew 5:10

Realm Master

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hello?
ANYBODY THERE? (echo)
(echo)

(echo)


(echo)

(echo and fade)

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Blessed are those who show mercy.
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Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right.
The kingdom of hevan bleongs to them.-Matthew 5:10

crazyishone

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"HELLLOOO"
"HELLOoooooo"
"hellloooo"
"hello"

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Lava
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*sneaks up behind Crazyishone and Realm Master*

BOOOOOOOO!!!!

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Lava
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*sneaks off in the dark*

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Realm Master

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*smacks lava over the head with a flyswatter*

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Blessed are those who show mercy.
They will be shown mercy. - Matthew 5:7

Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right.
The kingdom of hevan bleongs to them.-Matthew 5:10

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i have a stand to make here. o yes, im a real general custer, but dont kill me just yet.

we need to stop these *inset action here*.
lol, its ruining the forum. every topic turns into a war zone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ive said my piece. feel free to kill me now.

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*blinks, then smacks lava with the fly swatter again*

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Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right.
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"no. we dont do those things. not around grandma. you know that. we dont do those things."
-Nick Swardson

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. . . ?

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Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right.
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crazyishone

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dont "..." me. thats my TM!
lol, nick swardson is a comedian. He has a really funny act, and part of it talks about how all of the dignity in present in current old people when our generation is old. We cant say "sucks" around our grandmas, but when we are old itll be more like this....
KID: "Grandpa Grandpa! Were going to the zoo, u wanna go to the zoo?!?!??!!?!?"
GRANDPA: "eehh....wat? the zoo? ehh f*** that. I ain't f***ing goin to the zoo! wat r u, GAY?"
KID: " MOOOM!! GRANDPA CALLED ME GAAAAAAY!!"
GRANDPA: "Dont tell on me b****! Now where's my Dre CD?"

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@RM

What about your idea where everything turns into a 404 error?:

THE SYSTEM IS DOWN!

You were surfign the web when: YOU GOT A 404! No big deal, right? You try and hit the back button, but suddenly, the back button image turns into 3 numbers: 404! you try and exit your computer, but the exit button becomes the dreaded 404! Suddenly, your entire computer turns into the nubmers 404! YOU HAVE TO RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! Find your way through the house, avoiding rooms and objects that have turned (or will turn) itno a 404! (you can jump out windows to, but it seriously drains your health) Once your out of the house, your safe, right? WRONG! If you don't find what is creating all the 404's, then ENTIRE WORLD WILL BECOME A GIANT 404! play through huge levels, from your house to comptuer industires to millitary bases, all trying to

A: run away from the 404s that try and kill you (when they touch you you too turn into a 404)

B: Find and somehow destoy the evil 404 taht started it all.

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hmmm....interesting........

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Realm Master

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oh yeahhh..... i remember taht..... hehe, that was a good 'un!

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Blessed are those who show mercy.
They will be shown mercy. - Matthew 5:7

Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right.
The kingdom of hevan bleongs to them.-Matthew 5:10