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Astaldaran Member Posts: 23 From: Registered: 06-12-2003 |
Hey I know how everyone wants to make a christian mmorpg or other massive game, however this is very exspensive and can't be done in the forseable future. My question is why don't we make the next best thing? A browser based game. A browser based game is a game that (you guessed it) is played in the borser Anyway they are normaly jsut text and some pictures and stuff to make it a little more intersting. Now you may ask, "Why would someone want to play a browser based game" well this is why, since there are no graphics it leaves the player to imagine anything they want on hwo it looks! And with the interactivity with other players it is a great type of game!! They can also be very addictive. I am interested in developing a browser based game, if any body else is please post. also any idea for a story would gbe appreciated. I have an idea but i have to think of it more.
http://warlords.iboze.com/rwl.php?action=login http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi ------------------ |
Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
quote: Can't say everyone, I don't want to make a massive Christian MMORPG or the such ------------------ |
CobraA1 Member Posts: 926 From: MN Registered: 02-19-2001 |
I'm gonna play around with simcountry  . White Giant planet, name of country is Klingon Empire.------------------ |
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Astaldaran Member Posts: 23 From: Registered: 06-12-2003 |
se what i mean? these games can be very appealing (simcountry can be very complicated  )------------------ |
InsanePoet Member Posts: 638 From: Vermont, USA Registered: 03-12-2003 |
yeah, i'm fooling around with nation states, i made "The Holy Empire of Mhaelyrun", using the welsh flag. ------------------ |
ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
I'm also trying nation states. Me, I am the Federation of the Orion Empire. ------------------ |
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CobraA1 Member Posts: 926 From: MN Registered: 02-19-2001 |
Fine, fine, I'll do Nation States also. I'm "boneHmO" - "Klingon" and "Klingons" were already taken, so I used the Klingon word for Klingon The game changed my name to "The 112 of BoneHmO" . . . I signed up to get an empire . . . ------------------ |
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CobraA1 Member Posts: 926 From: MN Registered: 02-19-2001 |
OK, I'm an empire now . Figured out how to change it. ------------------ |
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Astaldaran Member Posts: 23 From: Registered: 06-12-2003 |
so anybody think a christian one would be cool? Maybe you run a city in israel? i don' ideas? ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
Yeah, I bet it would be. But it can't be just christian, it has to be fun too. Don't have any ideas currently; I'll drop'm if I get one. Peace out. ------------------ |
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CobraA1 Member Posts: 926 From: MN Registered: 02-19-2001 |
Hosting a browser-based game would need a lot of bandwidth and a fairly powerful server, I imagine :\. Good idea, though. ------------------ |
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Astaldaran Member Posts: 23 From: Registered: 06-12-2003 |
think again, nope. know why? it is just text! yep wouldn't use any more bandwidth then this forum (well depending how many players). I have some hosts in mine if we ever did do this. ------------------ |
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CobraA1 Member Posts: 926 From: MN Registered: 02-19-2001 |
I suppose if you have a small number of players, but if you've got hundereds or thousands of players then you're talking a lot of bandwidth. With these types of games, the page is refreshed quite often - while a regular webpage may have only a couple of views per visitor, a web game may have several views per visitor per day. If you have a small number of players, this won't be a problem. If the word gets out, however . . . ------------------ |
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Astaldaran Member Posts: 23 From: Registered: 06-12-2003 |
that is true, ok 5 bucks a month will give you the services you need, including 10 gig of bandwidth. Think that'd be enough for a start? ------------------ |
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CobraA1 Member Posts: 926 From: MN Registered: 02-19-2001 |
Probably. I use host-grid.com. I've been playing around with some PHP, it should be possible. ------------------ |
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Astaldaran Member Posts: 23 From: Registered: 06-12-2003 |
so is anybody interested in actualy donig such a project? even if you aren't into programming php (which is probably what would be used) we would still need a game designed first before any programming begins. Perhaps you control a city in israel (after most cites in this time were almost self ruling) and you have to make sure you can pay the taxes to the nation and have money for your own defenses and such. You make friends of other cities and enemies of raiders from other country's and etc. Just one idea, please sugest more ideas and or a development on this one! ------------------ |
GUMP Member Posts: 1335 From: Melbourne, FL USA Registered: 11-09-2002 |
For a browser based game I imagine you would use Java... though I've never looked into it much so I'm not positive about this. Check out www.wildtangent.com |
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CobraA1 Member Posts: 926 From: MN Registered: 02-19-2001 |
Hey GUMP, thanks for the input. Yeah, Java would be used for a real-time game. What we're talking about is a game that somebody checks like once a day for about ten minutes. Usually these types of games dynamically generate HTML. If something like this gets off the ground, I might be willing to help. ------------------ |
silicon_chippy Member Posts: 208 From: Scotland Registered: 10-26-2002 |
Just because it is online, it wouldn't have to be a sim game. Wouldn't a text based adventure game be just as good? You could throw sim properties into it! I just remember how addictive those games were. ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
yeah, that could be possible too. there are alot of possiblities, come to think about it. As "Barney the Dinosaur" would say,... Use your imagination! (oh boy, I did not just quote him...) (k, just so you know, he's NOT my hero in anyway...) but, man, that NationState game. really addicting. hey, Silecon_Chippy, I like your avatar! ------------------ |
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silicon_chippy Member Posts: 208 From: Scotland Registered: 10-26-2002 |
Thankyou for the complement regarding my Avatar, I would like to say I drew it however I just downloaded it. Sorry it is similar to yours(not intentional). I liked the way the sword looked like a cross. It brings to ming king Arthur and the great crusades. You are right, the possibilities are endless! It's just a case of everyone getting together and commiting to a project ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
quote: Yeah, haha. it sorta is.
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silicon_chippy Member Posts: 208 From: Scotland Registered: 10-26-2002 |
Was I showing my niavity? ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
Naivity? as in, being Naive? sry, my vocabulary's not the best thing in the world. If it's about Naive, then, no. ------------------ |
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Astaldaran Member Posts: 23 From: Registered: 06-12-2003 |
so first we need ideas for the game. any thoughts? ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
hmmm, well that kinda depends on how "christian" you want to make it. do you want it to be predominatly christian, say, a game on the life of a of a pastor of a church. that's probably the best one I could think of. ------------------ |
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silicon_chippy Member Posts: 208 From: Scotland Registered: 10-26-2002 |
niavity? Carnt beleev mi speling, sory!! Whatever game that is decided on, must be basic. It is not worth starting out too advanced. Plus, if the project gets completed it gives an option to get more advanced. ------------------ |
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Astaldaran Member Posts: 23 From: Registered: 06-12-2003 |
im putting this project aside for now, until i have more php/sql code behind me. ------------------ |
Danno Member Posts: 15 From: Seattle, WA Registered: 01-20-2001 |
I did a couple of browser based games in Java a few years ago. You can check them out at: www.unitygame.com |
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Astaldaran Member Posts: 23 From: Registered: 06-12-2003 |
this would be a lot different then somethnig liek that.. I still don't have a storyline that allows me to do what i want so its still on hold. ------------------ |
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silicon_chippy Member Posts: 208 From: Scotland Registered: 10-26-2002 |
what is the best way to create a game? By getting the Story set out first or creating an addictive game and building a story round it? ------------------ |
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CobraA1 Member Posts: 926 From: MN Registered: 02-19-2001 |
Yes - er - depends on the game, IMHO. RTS and FPS don't really rely on story, so they tend to focus on the engine. RPG and Adventure are all about the story, so they focus on the story. In all cases, the design of both the story and engine should probably be done on paper before a line of code is written. My experience is that making stuff up on the fly inevitably leads to a never-finished product. ------------------ |
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Astaldaran Member Posts: 23 From: Registered: 06-12-2003 |
yep, which is why im not starting till i have a story i like that works. I keep thinking of taking something from ancient history, but it isn't working how i want. Perhaps i need another approach Basicaly i keep thinking back to when cities had a lot of control over themsleves, you'd control an isrealite city and beable to join clans with other cities and stuff, only problem is how would i allow you to fight? see my dilima? ------------------ |
AmazingJas Member Posts: 437 From: Sydney, NSW, AUSTRALIA Registered: 04-03-2003 |
I actually think coming up with good gameplay is the best idea (IMHO). Good Christian storylines are a dime a dozen these days, whereas actually playable and enjoyable Christian games are rare as hen's teeth. As long as the basic framework of your gameplay isn't too 'out there', you should be able to stretch it to make your story come through? It probably depends though on whether as a gamer you prefer storyline or gameplay as well. I guess I'm just more of a fan off gameplay, so I'm a bit biased. |
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silicon_chippy Member Posts: 208 From: Scotland Registered: 10-26-2002 |
you are right AmazingJas that gameplay is important. I bought a computer a few of years ago which had astounding graphics capability and plenty of ram. What did my wife want to play? "pacman!" I explained to her that this was a top of the range PC and that she could play any of the cutting edge games. "Great then" she said "can I play Lemmings" The point is that I sometimes feel that games have lost that got to get to the next level feeling. ------------------ |
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silicon_chippy Member Posts: 208 From: Scotland Registered: 10-26-2002 |
The point is that I sometimes feel that games have lost that got to get to the next level feeling. Does anyone agree? ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
um, some did, many didn't. Some games sucked all remnants of my brains out... very addicting. Games like... TRON 2.0, Max Payne, Dungeon Siege, Catechumen(yeah!), Ominious Horizons(yeah, too!), etc. ------------------ |
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silicon_chippy Member Posts: 208 From: Scotland Registered: 10-26-2002 |
Max Payne, o' yeah that game was worth playing. I would not have thought a Christian would play that game though. I am not questioning you at all, but are there limits to games we should play?( being Christians) ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
well, hmmm, good question. It probably depends on the person. (in no way supporting moral relativism) ------------------ |
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AmazingJas Member Posts: 437 From: Sydney, NSW, AUSTRALIA Registered: 04-03-2003 |
oh boy, are we gonna open up that oyster agin? I never really thought much about the content of the games that I played, but lately for two reasons I've been a bit more careful. Reason #1 is that games are becoming more offensive in nature. They are pushing beyond the limits of what normal society thinks is reasonably acceptable. Take GTA for example, I love the gameplay concept, but there is just way too much scope for cruel and accidental violence (though I am fighting very hard against the desire to buy Vice City..). And the spread of new Vampire type games is really starting to bother me. Reason#2 is that my son just turned 2 and whenever I actually play a game on the PC now, he wants to sit on my lap and watch/play. I'm not really an old fossil, but I still worry a bit about what effect simulated violence will have on young childrens' minds. Archangel, what is 'moral relativism'? Sounds awefully impressive though! My guess is that it's adapting your own standards based on what society thinks rather than a set code (eg, the Bible). |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
Moral Relativism? basically, it's having morality being relative, different for each person. "what I believe is right for me, what you believe is right for you. Just because you think abortion is wrong doesn't mean it's wrong for me" ultimately, it's people setting moral standards instead of God. (dude, if I got the definition wrong, somebody correct me) yeah, personally, I have no problem playing violent games, but I would not play around my little brother. basically, I don't think violent games are necessarily bad, but can be harmful for some people... maybe something like paul and eating meat sacrificed to idols. I dunno. Also, my little bro loooooovvvvveeeesss N'lightning's Ominous Horizons and Catechumen. He can't stop bugging me to play them for him. ahh, good games. I'd probably be able to get him into Eternal War, too. ------------------ |
