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Ereon

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Posts: 1018
From: Ohio, United States
Registered: 04-12-2005
Hi all. I ran across this new site the other day. It's got most of the same functionality/features of sites like Myspace and Facebook, except you earn a small percentage of the site's advertisement income every month. You get paid a small amount for every 1000 times someone views your profile, pictures, layouts/page designs, or blogs. The basic idea is that getting "paid" to do this stuff attracts more users and means more money for the site, as well as encourages people to get their page info out there and advertise for the site because you also earn a small percentage of whatever the people you refer make. Since it's just starting up there aren't too many people, so I was going to start hunting for a few referrals myself. Anyhoo, that brings me to my point. If you guys want to give it a whirl, even just to try it out, check out the banner below and make an account. If you like it you can stay on it and work on your page and everything, if not you can just abandon it and no harm done. Anyway, if it sounds interesting check it out, there's an FAQ video at the link the banner is set to. I'll see you guys around .

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Mene-Mene

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Posts: 1398
From: Fort Wayne, IN, USA
Registered: 10-23-2006
Looks interesting. I'd guess since its not that popular there aren't as many people there though. Nice Idea, but why do I get the feeling it can be exploited. Is it per user that peruses your profile, or per time, because couldn't you get a large amount of people together and repeatedly hit your profile?

BTW, So clever Ereon. Posting a referal on a Social Network.

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Ereon

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Posts: 1018
From: Ohio, United States
Registered: 04-12-2005
Well the thing is Mene that you only get like $.03 to $.05 per every thousand hits or something like that. It's not an insane amount of money, just a small incentive. And yeah, you caught me, .

Oh yeah, btw, if you guys want to check out my page you can go here. www.yuwie.com/giron

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Mene-Mene

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Posts: 1398
From: Fort Wayne, IN, USA
Registered: 10-23-2006
My mom is concerned about safety and IP Addresses, and spam. Could you figure out a way so that i can soothe her concience?

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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
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InsanePoet

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Posts: 638
From: Vermont, USA
Registered: 03-12-2003
Your IP address is probably a dynamic one provided by your ISP, which means it changes. ISPs often provide static IP address assignment options and those usually cost extra.

You're probably behind your standard Linksys or whatever it is router which is a DHCP server which hands out 192.168.x.x address which only are used behind that router. These are private IP addresses and are absolutely worthless outside the router.

So when you go to www.google.com your computer goes to the router and then the router takes care of it all on your behalf. The router is the one that actually has the real IP address. It does this by something called PAT (Port-address translation) in which outbound traffic will have a header packet that has information it will the the destination and destination port and the source port. The source port is an ephemeral point number randomly assigned (ephemeral port = port number above 1024). The router keeps a PAT table with this information. When the destination gets the request it sends the packets along with whatever was requested on the same port (ephemeral) that it received it on. The router then receives the packets and matches it up with the table. The router actually provides a basic level of security because it traffic is coming in on ports that do not match up with the table (hacking attempts) the router will drop the packets.

So, practically speaking, as a home workstation, all you really need to worry about is viruses and spyware. Which generally if you keep your OS up to date and don't download random junk you'll be fine. Anti-virus is a good idea too, but remember, out of date virus definitions are worthless, it needs to be up to date.

If you want to be on the up and up with viruses, Symantec will give details on the latest virus findings daily. Most often it's very mild viruses that come out.

Now, you'll run into real security issues when you actually host stuff (web server, mail server). When I say host stuff I don't mean that you got tripod angelfire free website or even purchased outside web hosting. I am talking about when you have an actual server sitting in your home that's actually hosting the actual website to the world. Organizations usually put these in something called a DMZ which, in networking, is a separate network outside the inside intranet. So typically how it works is that you have your firewall then your DMZ behind that firewall then another firewall and your actual network behind that.

I see people throw around IP address all the time like it's your social security or credit card number.

Really not that big of a deal.

Finding an IP address of any website is pretty easy.

www.google.com = 64.223.169.103
Finding information on the actual owners of a website is also not hard.
http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=www.google.com&tld=com

just run a whois... surprisingly it tells you who it is =p

Surely you've all seen those signatures that say "Your IP address is XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX.

IP address, not really a big deal.

Now with security, encryption methods and credentials are a big deal and that's what you need to worry about.


Now for the loosely used term of SPAM.

Again, not really a big deal. True spam contains ads for illegal products or a virus/spyware as an attachment. The often have an invalid reply to address. If you use an email client program the integrity of that is important. This is why products like Symantec Anti-virus has active email scanning.

Most people at home have a web based account by which security of that account is mostly dependent on the provider. You may get junk email (as opposed to spam) by creating an account on a website. I personally have a spam email account in which I use to sign up for sites and such.


There's always more to say, but i'll end it here.

P.S.

And if you're allured to the fact that you're gonna make fractions of a penny.

This is often a better way to make money

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"I find myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world!"
-C. S. Lewis

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ArchAngel

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Posts: 3450
From: SV, CA, USA
Registered: 01-29-2002
wow, great post, IP.

but yeah, I have little allure for that site.
On Myspace, I had over 170 friends, and +700 comments (so people were frequenting the page), but only around 5600 profile views.
Judging by Mene's estimates, I would have made a quarter out of all of that if it got as big as my myspace profile (which it never will).
I wouldn't even bend down to pick a quarter I found on the road.

I have a myspace and a facebook profile, and a job and investments in the stock market, I'm set.

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InsanePoet

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Posts: 638
From: Vermont, USA
Registered: 03-12-2003
quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:
wow, great post, IP.

IT is what I do :-p, it's my job to know about this stuff

quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:

I wouldn't even bend down to pick a quarter I found on the road.


I would :-p... not a penny though, quarter... maybe...

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"I find myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world!"
-C. S. Lewis

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Ereon

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Posts: 1018
From: Ohio, United States
Registered: 04-12-2005
Well you don't just get paid per page view. You also get paid for every comment left, every time someone views one of your pictures, every time someone looks at your blogs, or any time someone views a page layout you've created and such too. So it's not just page views. It's really views of whatever you've created on that site.

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ArchAngel

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Posts: 3450
From: SV, CA, USA
Registered: 01-29-2002
quote:
Originally posted by insanepoet:
I would :-p... not a penny though, quarter... maybe...


I'm tall. It's a long way down.
That and I got this disposition to not picking up money. Too many times in my childhood I was told that it was "stealing." Even if it was a $20 bill, I probably would pass it up, just to ease my conscience, only to stop, turn back around, dropkick the homeless man trying to grab it and then run off with it to do who knows what I do with 20 dollars.

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InsanePoet

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Posts: 638
From: Vermont, USA
Registered: 03-12-2003
quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:
I'm tall. It's a long way down.



I'm 6'5"

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"I find myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world!"
-C. S. Lewis

Mene-Mene

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Posts: 1398
From: Fort Wayne, IN, USA
Registered: 10-23-2006
I'm with arch, it kinda feels that way as I was kinda raised that way. Thanks IP for the info on IP [Addresses] .

Ereons right, true alone you may not get much. but if you refer to other friends, and they refer to other friends up to the 10th level you get money for their views as well which can really add up. http://www.yuwie.com/yuwie.asp?p=3&r=76011

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MM out-
Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto
I reserve the full right to change my views/theories at any time.

CPUFreak91

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Posts: 2337
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Registered: 02-01-2005
quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:
I wouldn't even bend down to pick a quarter I found on the road.


I would. Four of those make a dollar, and 400 make $100 .

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Matt Langley
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Posts: 247
From: Eugene, OR, USA
Registered: 08-31-2006
Hey, if that style of social networking floats your boat and you get money while doing it, more power to you. Personally, I'm not a fan of social networking sites and web apps... the only one I like is Great Games Experiment, due to it being centered around games

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