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luke

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As some, if not most, of you know, the article by Caleb. In which he quit all video games, and made himself a better man. Well, I also have (had) a video game problem, granted that it only affected what I spent my free-time doing (ie program or video games...games) and not my other wordly obligations...I have decided to renounce all video games, and take up my passion for programming like never before, except those that I create. So I better start making great games =D.

It will be hard for me, and I will be tempted (although after I reformat my HD the temptation will lessen considerably) please pray for me and my future success in a new life with out an addiction.

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I will pray for you

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make games but not play them? okay.

well, I see your reasons and hope and pray for God's strength for you.

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He mentioned he would not play any video games, with he exception of his own crated video games.

Anyway, I applaud you, luke! I realize that will take a lot of self-control. But you will find it quite rewarding. I myself have done the same, though every few months I do play a video game, lol. I'll keep you in prayer!

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luke

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thanks guys, Im planning on reformating my disk soon now and that should take care of any 'moments of weakness'. However, in any evetn I can always look here for some last ditch motivation :0

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Jari

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I am happy for you luke!
It's a great decision because there are so many better things we can do with the time spent playing games like serving the Lord.
I will pray that God gives you the strength to resist the temptation.

It looks like I have pretty much quitted playing games as well since it's been so long I last time played something (if you dont count testing some game for a few mins). I just have grown out of it by God's word, our daily bread.

In Christ,
Jari.

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how could I get rid of my moment of weakness? (internet)

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Jari

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quote:
Originally posted by kiwee:
how could I get rid of my moment of weakness? (internet)

We are weak with our own strength, that's why we need God and He's word. Just pray, pray that He will keep you from falling and do not fear for God is loyal, we just have to seek for His face.

Psa 119:115-116 Depart from me, ye evildoers: for I will keep the commandments of my God. - 116 Uphold me according unto thy word, that I may live: and let me not be ashamed of my hope.

Amen!

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Wow luke! That's amazing. I pray things go well with you.

quote:
Originally posted by kiwee:
how could I get rid of my moment of weakness? (internet)

Ugh. Same here. Although I have a lot of automated tasks now that do stuff for me (Like an automatic podcast downloader, comic downloader, etc).

I'm working on reducing my surfing time too (But that's not too hard).

Wow. So Luke, if you're going to format your drive soon... may I suggest you try Linux? I don't play nearly as much games because I'm too lazy to reboot

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luke

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Well, Ive saved the files that I need to save, and have the software that I'll need to reinstall... Here comes the reformat, a new computer with out any games wooot!

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Gamer4Christ

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Man, that is an extreme move! Good job on the decision, I admire your courage!! As for me... gaming is as much a part of my life as breathing is... so I cannot make the same decision, but I applaud your move, and pray that it goes well for you!!!

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Jari

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quote:
Originally posted by gamer4christ:
As for me... gaming is as much a part of my life as breathing is... so I cannot make the same decision,

Hey I used to be like that but since Christ changed me He sure can change you too!
If you want, what He has in replace for the games...

Jari.

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lol... well see I feel as if the Lord is taking me down the gaming world, gaining an understanding of what makes a game successful, so when I build one for His Glory it is truely MAGNIFICIENT unlike SOOO many other Christian games... so as long as I do not lose sight of my ultimate goal, then I will be fine.

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Jari

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quote:
Originally posted by gamer4christ:
lol... well see I feel as if the Lord is taking me down the gaming world, gaining an understanding of what makes a game successful, so when I build one for His Glory it is truely MAGNIFICIENT unlike SOOO many other Christian games... so as long as I do not lose sight of my ultimate goal, then I will be fine.

Ah the gaming world, yep I have been in there as well, I used to play/test out every game there was But have to say that no experince in gaming is greater or even near the knowledge found in Bible. But of course it's good to know what you are trying to compete with and have the skills for it but I have this strong belief and feeling that magnificient Christian game will be very different from secular games for what common does light have with darkness? Nothing.

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Ok, lol... first off, Jari... I never said that I seek games more then I seek knowledge from the Bible. Do not assume what I do not say, I said I feel as though the Lord is encouraging me into the game world, not that I am forcing myself there instead of reading my Bible. Second, secular games are not all 'dark' games... yeah they might not be spreading the Light, which can lead one to make the assumption that they are 'dark', but medieval tournaments were not spreading the Light, so were they 'dark' games? I do not think so... it was a pass-time, which does not make it 'dark', granted there are DARK games out there, but do assume that ALL games are dark that do spread the Light. And I am wanting to bring Christian games to the secular world, not Christian games to the Christian gamers, although that is a nice reward... you know giving Christians a game that compete with secular games, but my mission is to bring secular gamers to Christ. And NO secular gamers look at Christian games with an open heart, so making one LIKE, not completely the same is the ONLY way to spread the light into the ever-darkening gaming world.

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Jari

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quote:
Originally posted by gamer4christ:
Ok, lol... first off, Jari... I never said that I seek games more then I seek knowledge from the Bible. Do not assume what I do not say, I said I feel as though the Lord is encouraging me into the game world, not that I am forcing myself there instead of reading my Bible.

Oh I am sorry that I gave the wrong picture, I didnt assume that. I just wanted to make a note that it's always good to start and end the search for an answer by reading the Bible and do other study in the middle of that.

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Originally posted by gamer4christ:

Second, secular games are not all 'dark' games... yeah they might not be spreading the Light, which can lead one to make the assumption that they are 'dark', but medieval tournaments were not spreading the Light, so were they 'dark' games? I do not think so... it was a pass-time, which does not make it 'dark', granted there are DARK games out there, but do assume that ALL games are dark that do spread the Light.

Well we view this differently because for me there is no gray area and since secular games are made in the lust of this world they don't shed God's love. Of course there can be exceptions but as long as the one and only God is not part of them then it's just love towards humans. I do believe you know what I'm talking about, I'm thinking of first chapter of John and the light of men.


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Originally posted by gamer4christ:
And NO secular gamers look at Christian games with an open heart, so making one LIKE, not completely the same is the ONLY way to spread the light into the ever-darkening gaming world.

Hey some might, dont forget that there are non-believers here in CCN. But it's true that most of the secular gamers dont touch Christian games.

But anyway, I hope you can create great games for the Lord and I know you will as long as you seek for His will!

Jari.

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Well we view this differently because for me there is no gray area and since secular games are made in the lust of this world they don't shed God's love. Of course there can be exceptions but as long as the one and only God is not part of them then it's just love towards humans. I do believe you know what I'm talking about, I'm thinking of first chapter of John and the light of men.

See, I knew that was what you were going to say. JUST because something does not have ANYTHING to do with the Lord does not make it dark, it is judged by its contents, I mean GTA is an evil, EVIL game... I agree it is a DARK game, but Tetris cannot be called dark... unless you are saying that getting rid of little boxes is evil, I mean seriously listen to what you are saying. Again in Medieval Europe the tournaments had NOTHING to do with God, were they in the lust of this world? Were they out of the love towards man? No, and No... they were something to do in times of peace. I am not trying to argue, but just stating my point.

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Jari

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gamer4christ, tetris is a good example of a game which only purpose is to entertain, it's not spiritually constructive to play it and playing it can be compared to standing idle all day since it's just about killing time, unless it's also about pride if you want to be at the highscores list. However dont get me wrong, I dont say its wrong to have fun playing tetris but it's a earthly thing all the way.

PS. I dont understand why you defend tournaments, they are nothing more than pride, violence, money etc.

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luke

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As far as I know about knight jousting matches, the winner got the losers armor and a bunch of gold (But why you would want armor that apparently didnt help its old owner is beyond me ) But other than that I cannt see what this has to do with video games.
That doesnt mean that they are not of Christ, but rather more likeable to football and other spectator sports.

As for tetris, well im gonna look into the area of "If its not of God and its not evil, does that make is bad?" interesting ...

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"If it's not of G-d, and it's not evil, does that make it bad?"
Just, just... no comment...

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Gamer4Christ

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If you don't think it is wrong to play something that is fun... that might not have to do with God... then why are you arguing with me? lol

As far as me defending tournaments... yeah they were bloody, they were violent... and there was a reward for winning. But these guys are warriors, they live for the fight... tournaments to them is not about winning or losing their life... or winning lots of money, but it is about their honor, which is ALOT different then pride, most warriors' honor is more important to them then their own lives. So unless you know everything there is to know about a tournament do not get me started on this subject... now the gladiator matches, I agree those are wrong, there was NOTHING to them... they were slaves TOLD to fight to the death, lol... ALOT different.

Ok... it has to do with video games in the fact that in the medieval ages the tournaments was the thing to do/watch... it was their PRIMARY pass-time... and today the PRIMARY pass-time for this earth is playing video games, and yes one could argue that sports are more primary, but remember there is no off-season to gaming, and there is no schedule that has them playing it one day out of a week. So there is the only connection, sorry if I confused you. And as far as your last comment, I highly doubt many, if any, tournaments were held in Christ's name... I mean I doubt that would be very glorifying to Him.

On to the last point... "If its not of God and its not evil, does that make is bad?"... I am going to bring up things you do that has NOTHING to do with God, but also has NOTHING to do with Satan... First off...
-eating, you do not eat because it glorifies God, you eat because you are hungry... does that make it wrong to eat(not glutony... just eating)???
-Football/Basketball/Soccer/and other sports, they are not played, by the majority, to glorify God... does that make it wrong to play/watch???
-Art that is not related to God... for instance Picasso, he did not dedicate his artwork to God, although if he did and I were the Lord I would be offended at his dedication, lol... anyway, but does that make him an evil man because he did NOT do his artwork in the name of the Lord???
-Music that is not Christian/hymnals... there are good(not evil... like Marilyn manson... and so forth...) bands out there that do not sing of God, or even sing in His name, so is it wrong to listen to those bands???
-Last point... programming, not many people program in the Lord's name, I mean like 1 in a 1,000,000 ok...so is it wrong to program if you don't do it in the Lord's name??? My programming teacher a while back, who is a Christian, did not program in His name, he had very little programs that had ANYTHING to do with Him, from what I saw he did not have a one (he was a contracted programmer so he did not have much choice as to what he did), so does that make it wrong for him to program???

I HIGHLY doubt anyone can answer yes, or the equivalent to any of those, so why does anyone carry this topic out... It is NOT wrong to do something in your spare-time that is NOT related to the Lord, granted it would be WONDERFUL if EVERYONE EVERYWHERE could do something related to the Lord from waking up to laying down, so unless you can argue with something anyone else has not said already... don't.

Much Love In Christ's Name,
-Dustin

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Jari

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This thread has gone enough off topic and we seem to see things different way so I dont want discuss this any more. All I want to say is that we are to love God from all our mind and hear and soul and from all our strength and to me that means really keeping Lord in mind every second of life - this is the greatest commandment and I know that I have failed miserably to keep it which is why I am a sinner.
But the imperfection disappears once we are one with God.

In Christ,
Jari.

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