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Mack

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I guess this cracks open how far we are in Eternal War development, but that’s alright, I’m glad people are still interested in the now completed project (keep on e-mailing me!). Currently we are going over ordering styles for Eternal War, for certain we are going to have money orders (for those who don’t have a credit card) and right now we are going over the aspect of credit card ordering online. We seem to be running into problems with that aspect because the different companies we looked over keep on adding charges or things to the agreement that we don’t agree with. My question is, how many of you will be ordering Eternal War via credit card?, and do you think credit card ordering is necessary?

To bring up an old question again, the reason why Eternal War probably won’t be showing up on a lot of store shelves is because of it’s content. We’ve been told before that the story is too realistic, the enemies and environments too frightening, the combat too strong, on the other hand
we’ve had people say it hits everything just right, it stands on the line but doesn’t cross it. Even our brothers and sisters at N’Lightning had numerous problems with trying to get Catechumen and Ominous Horizons on store shelves just because the game looked “too intensive”, it’s
ridiculous the amount of religious crap we have to cut through to do anything around here. Yes there’s some concerns, but there’s concerns with everything and why should we let fear limit us from taking out bold steps that might just impact people the right way? Anyways, just wanted to place that question in front of you guys and gals and get some feedback. We’re also finishing up some stuff so demo will be online soon hopefully, we would like to release it remotely in the same frame as the full version. Have a great day!

19 new shots on the site, check them out!

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BlazeQ

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Congrats on finishing!!

Credit card is faster and more desirable, but I don't usually care about the method of buying things.

Can't wait to check out the demo. What about releasing a trailer or something early?

Nice shots Only counted 17 though. I like this one best:

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Mack

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Thanks for your input! The screenshot you picked was taken last night durning a heated round of Flood Co-op (hardest difficulty, 5-6 bots in the game helping me out), I'm in a 3rd person cam view in the shot (I'm the guy in blue) with two 'scouts' on either side of me. If you look right ahead of me you can see one of our bots ready to lay some holy smack down on a demon. :P

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Mack

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We might consider doing a trailer, depends on how much time we have.

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InsanePoet

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What about a playable demo?

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Mack

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quote:
Originally posted by Insanepoet:
What about a playable demo?

From my first message:
We’re also finishing up some stuff so demo will be online soon hopefully, we would like to release it remotely in the same frame as the full version.

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InsanePoet

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Oh.

I just scanned it over. I guess i should have read it more carefully.

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Briant

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Mack,

Paypal may be an option for you. The customer can pay via a credit card, and their rates are much lower than other's I've seen (and I've looked a LOT). They even support shopping carts and direct wire to your bank. They also will soon be supporting multicurrency.

As for not getting it on shelves because it "is too realistic, the enemies and environments too frightening, the combat too strong", personally I think that is ridiculous. Games much more realistic/frightening/strong are all over the shelves - in fact I have to work hard to find something not too realistic/frightening/strong so my kids can play it. Sounds to me like the people who are telling you that are trying to make an excuse for something else. It makes no sense not to market a game because it is too realistic. The more realistic, the better - that's why we're playing Unreal 2003 on 3D-accelerated video cards today instead of Tank War on an Atari 2600.

The screenies look great, can't wait for the demo.

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InsanePoet

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Who's giving you grief on store publication?

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Ty

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Wow, that looks absolutely fantastic =D

As long as they accept good old £ sterling, I'll be happy

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Klumsy

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mack, i'll talk to you personally..
but a few things


why don't you consider having it published by a secular games company!!
that way your the audience are people who need to truth thats in the game, rather than just entertianment for a small amount of christians who would come accross it and want to play it...

also about online... through paypal creditcard, i have a secure site with ecommerce that can deal with that..
i'd let you have a test go setting up a test on my site... then if it works you can do it yours..
and my host rocks with credit card features and 500mb space , no traffic restrictions etc, database PHP ASP etc..

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BlazeQ

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quote:
why don't you consider having it published by a secular games company!!
that way your the audience are people who need to truth thats in the game, rather than just entertianment for a small amount of christians who would come accross it and want to play it...

That's what I was thinking. Might even look into secular stores. Wal-Mart picked up on Veggie-Tales.

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Mack

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quote:
Originally posted by klumsy:
why don't you consider having it published by a secular games company!!

We tried this and we may give another go at it.

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homer

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Registered: 07-22-2002
d00000000000000d that look awsome

<---will be buying it

as for the ordering thing....all you need is a bank account and a merchant id number and sell it through your website...im doing cgi processing atm if u need help

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Mack

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Thanks for your offer to help Homer, I'll let you know if need of your services. We've been checking over alot of the options people have been talking about, as well as undergoing several talks to see if we could set something up that would be more benifical for TGS. Thanks for all your support guys! Please continue to comment!

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BlazeQ

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So do you have a aproximate release date/time? A month maybe? Sooner? ( )

Remember, always take your best guess and then double it

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InsanePoet

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A long delayed reply...

Looks steller mate!

I fully support you guys for not watering down the truth.

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Mack

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Thanks for your comments/compliments guys! Means alot to me and the team (who do read these boards)!

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