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revlivingwater

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From: Cockeysville, MD USA
Registered: 05-23-2002
Here is a link to a program called Prayer Journal. I have used this for years as my prayer journal and diary. It has been an invaluable resource for me. I hope and pray that others will find it useful.

Prayer Journal

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God Bless,

Brice

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c h i e f y

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From: Surrey, United Kingdom
Registered: 03-07-2002
Brice

your prayer journal is super slick - no doubt

it looks good and has so many features

even better - it's shareware if after 30 days you like it, you just register for $20

y'know, CCN should do this I think

really ! if after 30 days you still like CCN then we should pay $20 through paypal or something

Krylar very kindly keeps this site going, I have no idea how

anyway Brice, your prayer journal does look appealing - but it's just SO modern

an ONLINE church
a computerised prayer journal
they're efficient and valid resources but to some ppl I guess they're too futuristic for the purpose

for example
slightly different realm but will serve the purpose
when did microwaves come in ? 10 years ago ?

my mother-in-law is 60
she will not have a microwave in her house at any cost because they're dangerous
she will not have a mobile phone and IF you have one, she REFUSES to accept your mobile NO. because she won't phone a mobile phone
what else? oh yeah, she refuses to have E-mail or a PC in her house and devotes all her time to gardening

could be worse I guess
she could've decided to live in the same town as me instead of 130 miles away

I love her really !

HEY - has anybody checked out this massive tiscali message board ?

it has a spritual/prayer section on it, in fact it's got every section on there that you could name, anyone seen it ?

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revlivingwater

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Posts: 16
From: Cockeysville, MD USA
Registered: 05-23-2002
>anyway Brice, your prayer journal does look appealing - but it's just SO modern<

I didn't write it, I just recommend it. I have used it for many years, it a great proggie.

I got my first taste of programming in '79, and in '83 bought my first computer. Computers have played a major role in my life since then. Much easier to keep organized and such when using a PC.

>an ONLINE church
they're efficient and valid resources but to some ppl I guess they're too futuristic for the purpose<

Actually my online church started out in '96 as a BBS based local church, running on a 16-node Power BBS system. It was costing roughly $800 a month for 16 phone lines. (No big deal, because before it turned into a church, it has been a pro wrestling themed BBS since '94 and it received callers from around the world and was advertised & reviewed in international wrestling mags. So I was used to the expense.)

However once Internet access really became affordable and unlimited rates hit, I decided to switch it to an internet church so that it could reach more people. At first in early '96 it was email based and later moved to a full web site until I shut it down in mid '98. Even in the email beginnings, there were around 240 members, all from word of mouth.

I have little respect for traditional denominational churches. They generally do NOT meet the needs of their congregation, and are too caught up in the political dogma that permeates every denomination out there. Most forget that tithing is to be taught, not policed and it is easy to see where the true love falsley is in many churches.

An internet church is informal, people are more open and honest over the internet. It is able to reach the people directly in the privacy of their homes at any time they choose. It reaches the homebound and the elderly (who surprisingly a large percentage have computers).

When my church was in its infancy and email based, (remember ALL members were from word of mouth) it had many members who were deaf children in a school. Surprise, a new way for God to get back in schools I found this amazing, and also after several phone calls with their teacher, I was able to change the services slightly so they could better accomodate the deaf members. These kids were completely unreached by ANY local church or ministry. Isn't it awesome that God can reach people like this through the internet? We also had members ranging from employees at major corporations to a white house staff member serving President Clinton.

In 2002, computers are even more widely used, and "email devices" and "surfing devices" are very common among the computer challenged. There is not a better time for an Internet Church to truly do the work of God.

>slightly different realm but will serve the purpose
when did microwaves come in ? 10 years ago ?<

Hmm... I am 33, I can remember Microwaves from when I was 5 or 6. Back then, here in the USA, Cafeterias in offices, hospitals and such had microwaves to heat up the soups, burgers and sandwiches in the vending machines. It was the late 70s/early 80s before we ever had one in the home though.

>my mother-in-law is 60
she will not have a microwave in her house at any cost because they're dangerous<

People fear what they do not understand, or they buy into the "paranoia hype". Microwaves are safe. You should not stand inches away from one staring through the window, but they are safe and emit far less radioactivity/magnetic fields than what the TVs did that your Motherinlaw would have been around growing up. In the early days, people with Pacemakers were to stay away from places Microwaves are used, but with the advancements in pacemakers, this has been 100% safe for them to be around microwaves for a LONG time.

>she will not have a mobile phone and IF you have one, she REFUSES to accept your mobile NO.<

Personally I find mobile phones HIGHLY annoying. I do chuckle over the studies that claim they cause cancer. The last such study done was really funny. Any legitimacy was lost by the fact that the people who did develop cancer in their brain were developing it on the opposite side of the head from which they held the phone.

The only thing that could possibly cause cancer is the EMF (electroMagnetic Field) generated by the speaker which is help up against your ear as you listen to the conversation.

Of course there is no truth in this. The speaker in a standard telephone emits a greater EMF field, and the phones in the early days up until the big Ma Bell break up really put out a huge EMF field and home telephone technology did not improve until the Ma Bell break up and people were finally allowed to actually go out and buy a telephone from a store made by any company they chose. Previously you could not even buy a phone and had to "lease" one from the phone company.

Also if there was any truth to these claims about cellphones and the EMF from the speaker, all of us reading this would be dead from brain cancer from all the times we used our Walkmans with the headphones on. Continue to apply this logic, Radio DJs would all be dying from cancer since the infancy of Radio and the headphones they wear. Every band or musician would be dying from the EMF from the headphones they wear in the studio and the ear pieces they wear in live events. TV producers, and News anchors would all be dying from cancer because of the headphones the producers wear and the ear pieces news anchors wear.

>and devotes all her time to gardening<

I applaud that she has a legitimate hobby that does not involve TV or Video Games. Too many people choose to get their entertainment from TV, video games. There is nothing better than Gardening IMHO, relaxing, stress relieving, wholesome and what a sense of accomplishment you get when you can truly eat the fruits of your labor if its a vegetable garden or admire the fruits of your labor if it is a flower garden.

In our house, we generally kill more plants than we can keep alive, but we watch very little TV. Mostly we read, listen to sermon tapes, audio books, or listen to old radio shows from the 30s-50s. A few times per week, we will watch a movie on DVD.

Sorry for rambling

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God Bless,

Brice

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Klumsy

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From: Port Angeles, WA, USA
Registered: 10-25-2001
good ramblings

i think internet churches are good to reach the masses.. i'd also envcourage people in them to get into small groups of local believers.. internet churches have advantages such as you said , but also some disadvantes as not so high quality relationships (though many not so healthy real life churches have that) and a lack of accountibility..

but they have their place

and so do normal churches, there are some bad eggs out there, but don't write them off due to your experiences, see the weaknesses and pray and encourage those churches in those areas, GOd's grace is sufficent for them, and God will and does work through many many many many churches and Christians.

As for mobile phones.. i get massive headaches from some mobile phones... even holding it a foot away from my ear does that..
but thats just me... i get and give lots of electric shocks to people, and can "feel" electricity through power cords

you are right about fears and paranioa's
add that peoples belief that they can't learn new things

Karl

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lostreflections

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>and so do normal churches, there are some bad eggs out there, but don't write them off due to your experiences,<

Unfortunately, most denominational churches do not fall under the "normal" category. My experiences have nothing to do with it. If a denomination is against God and against the Bible, clearly this is NOT a good denomination to be involved in. Since all the churches in that denomination cannot deviate from the dogmatic beliefs of the denomination, they also are not "good churches". In fact, by sheer definition, the majority of the denominations would fall into the cult category for their beliefs.

Examples of bad denominations:

United Methodist: They ordain homosexuals as ministers. Clearly against God and the Bible

United Pentecostal: They teach false doctrine of "oneness"

Seventh Day Adventists: You could have a field day with this one.

And the list goes on and on.

There are many great denomination churches out there, and there are many great independent ones. Sadly, the cultic ones far outnumber the ones truly following God.

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Regards,

Brice

Klumsy

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From: Port Angeles, WA, USA
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yep i am painfully aware on huge lack of balanced spiritual health in many churches, and also in my own walk during phases of my christian life..

i was just saying, don't write off any place that is a denomination just because there are some there that are 1) blatently false doctrine and almost antrichristial 2) cultic 3) slightly cultic 4) spiritual health is not good 5) got doctrine right and all but major on the minors and minor on the majors

all the above are out there.. the more severe ones you probably want to keep as far away from (other than in your prayer time with God).. and as for 4 and 5 every church and every one of us have a bit of that here and there.. But GOd's grace is sufficent.. of course we shouldn't be blind to these things..

Karl
why the new account?

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lostreflections

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>i was just saying, don't write off any place that is a denomination<

I don't only the blatantly wrong denominations.

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Regards,

Brice