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luke

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From: I use your computer as my second Linux box
Registered: 10-30-2005
Is it legal and accepted by the majority of citizens to kill millions of the unborn each year, but God forbid if you Dare to create life in a science experiment, since you are after all playing God.

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HanClinto

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Registered: 10-11-2004
Interesting. I'm surprised noone has brought up the idea of using aborted baby carcasses as a source for stem cells.

I think abortion is a travesty and an abomination, but still, my detached self sortof wonders why I haven't heard this brought up in any of the stem cell debates.

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crazyishone

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According to the logic of a person who supports abortion, using an aborted fetus for stem cell research should be no problem. After all, its not a human- right?

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ArchAngel

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Registered: 01-29-2002
that's true. but it could support abortion and further ingrain it.

kinda like how buying goods bought by slavery isn't enslaving, but your supporting the institution.

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CheeseStorm
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If abortion becomes illegal, people will turn to shady ghetto clinics and have the job done by a guy with kitchen utensils who learned surgery from Google.

As for the lil troopers themselves, it's a shame, but it's a bigger shame to just throw them in the dumpster. Maybe they will cure a disease with a fetus' help, and then there will be a huge fetus statue somewhere, glaring down on the masses for trying to limit his potential as a life-saving corpse.

ArchAngel

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quote:
If abortion becomes illegal, people will turn to shady ghetto clinics and have the job done by a guy with kitchen utensils who learned surgery from Google.

technically, they were mostly done by doctor's in their offices. there were very few back-alley abortions. and hey, it's their own stupid fault if they shove a coathanger up their babymaker. be smart about it, like falling down a staircase.
and about the ghetto clinics... well, can't be worse than the state-funded hospital in my area. abortions in hospitals are still pretty risky. it's not like thier equitment is that sofisticated. "alrighty, dear, we're going to stick this vacuum tube up inside and suck out junior."

anyhow, it is a shame that nothing good will come from their deaths.
to be honest, this is a dilemma in my mind.
on one side is the benefits of research; after all, they're not killing fetuses. lives could be saved by using bodies that are just thrown in the trash.
on the other side, it's further ingraining an institution I hate and could lead to a slippery slope where babies could be aborted specifically for research, or research is done on living fetuses.

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luke

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From: I use your computer as my second Linux box
Registered: 10-30-2005
Valid points of all, but I've noticed that this topic (indeed all political topics) don't appear in that ticker thingy...

I think that the best solution is to *not* have legal abortions for these reasons:

A: Its just the right thing to do
B: Its the moral thing to do
C: Morality is a good thing

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D-SIPL

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From: Maesteg, Wales
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As i have said before abortion is a human sacrifice to the god of convenience!

Abortion is wrong and if you can't handle a baby then don't have sex, it's not rocket science. As for those that are raped and it's out of their control, well God still has a plan and purpose for that childs life. No baby is a mistake.

my 2 cents...

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jestermax

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very good two cents. i generally stay away from topics like this but i full agree with D-SIPL
buddboy

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Registered: 10-08-2004
i would agree with the statement that we should use the stem cells from aborted fetuses if it hasn't been proven that infant stem cells don't even help, and that we can get adult stem cells without killing a baby/child. it's been proven, i don't know why these scientists still think that we need infant stem cells. it's crap.

i also agree that if abortion is made illegal, they'd just have the abortions illegally. it's like the Prohibition, it just created the bootleg business.

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