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Tonnyx

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From: Indiana, USA
Registered: 08-02-2005
I know not a lot of people talk about web development here, but there's a whole section for it, and I like web development, so I'm going to post here.

Survey:
1. What Content Management System(s) (CMS) have you used?

a. PHP Nuke
b. PostNuke
c. Joomla!
d. Other (please list)
e. What's Content Management?

2. Which do you prefer? Why?

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Tonnyx

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Posts: 140
From: Indiana, USA
Registered: 08-02-2005
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2. I prefer Joomla! It's free, it's open-source, and loads of people have written great templates and 3rd party extensions, many of which are also free & open source.

I am currently putting together a prototype for a local coffeeshop, and it's going pretty smoothly. This is my 2nd time setting up a Joomla site, and it seems to be getting easier and faster each time. This site took one day to get basic functionality working; this is my 2nd day working on it, and I'm basically polishing it now (it will probably take longer to polish up than it did to set up the basic functions). Knowledge of php and css are helpful in tweaking templates and things, but the bulk of it is done for you.

I very briefly tried PHP-Nuke, since it came with the web hosting package. I installed it, looked at it, and said, "that's ugly. From the get-go, Joomla just looks and feels more elegant and polished.

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D-SIPL

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SimpleCMS i found to be ok.

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Jari

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tikiWiki is my favorite at the moment because it's fast (enough) with many modules (feature list).

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CPUFreak91

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quote:
Originally posted by tonnyx:
Survey:
1. What Content Management System(s) (CMS) have you used?

a. PHP Nuke
c. Joomla!
d. Geeklog

2. Which do you prefer? Why?
Joomla. It's more flashy and easier to use.


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D-SIPL

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I found a lot of the popular ones to be quite insecure. As soon as someone finds a vulnerability loads of sites get hacked. Joomla is paticuarly bad for this tbph.

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Tonnyx

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From: Indiana, USA
Registered: 08-02-2005
quote:
Originally posted by D-SIPL:
I found a lot of the popular ones to be quite insecure. As soon as someone finds a vulnerability loads of sites get hacked. Joomla is paticuarly bad for this tbph.


Hmm, I wasn't aware of that. Are there any ones you (D-SIPL or anybody) know of that are a good balance between usable, visually appealing, and secure?

Do you know what some common vulnerabilities of Joomla are, and is there anything that a user of Joomla can do anything about?

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Mene-Mene

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2. I don't know much?

Well you left a spot there.

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jestermax

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the company i'm at used .NET Nuke for their site but i'm getting rid of it eventually
samw3

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From: Toccoa, GA, USA
Registered: 08-15-2006
I've written my own with CakePHP, but also have used nuke in the past.

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kenman

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From: Janesville WI
Registered: 08-31-2006
Since this post was first posted, I have created a site in Joomla. There are things I find easy and annoying. Modifying templates will be one thing I would like to learn.

Setting up a CMS site is not that difficult.

AndyGeers

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http://drupal.org/ is pretty powerful, with lots of mods and other components you can load in to do custom stuff.

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Tonnyx

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From: Indiana, USA
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I just got my first "real" CMS-powered website done! It's for friends of ours who run a coffeeshop: www.sipsandscones.com

So that's pretty exciting. Before that, the only site I'd ever done that actually got put into real use was my church: elkhartrpc.org

quote:
Originally posted by Kenman:
Since this post was first posted, I have created a site in Joomla. There are things I find easy and annoying. Modifying templates will be one thing I would like to learn.

Kenman: I haven't quite gotten up the courage to create my own template yet, but I find that if you find a template with a good structure, modifying it is not too bad. The template I used for the cafe was heavily modded from one called Comproleen Purple. It's a little bit too much for my needs, but I like how the index.php code checks for a module's existence before inserting the <div> tags for it, so if you don't happen to be using a certain module, it doesn't bother making any space for it.

The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't have a right sidebar. You can see at the cafe site that I added one in. That was kind of a pain. Maybe one of these days I will get up the gumption to mod & whittle Comproleen so that it does exactly what I want, no more and no less.

Happy Joomla-ing!

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Tonnyx

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Posts: 140
From: Indiana, USA
Registered: 08-02-2005
quote:
Originally posted by D-SIPL:
I found a lot of the popular ones to be quite insecure. As soon as someone finds a vulnerability loads of sites get hacked. Joomla is paticuarly bad for this tbph.

So yeah... I should have been more mindful of this fact when I got my friend's site launched. Yeah. It got hacked. I had been procrastinating on installing the latest patch, and in the meantime, somebody came in and dropped all my database tables. Did I have them backed up? Of course not!

The site is finally back in working order, and it emails me a database backup every day.

Something that's puzzling, though, is that that day's logs are not accessible through the webhost's vdeck admin interface. I can see that everything was fine the day before the hack, and everything was not fine the day after, but I cannot see what happened the day of. I've emailed the hosting co., and have not yet heard back from them.

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bwoogie

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From: kansas usa
Registered: 03-12-2005
i thinking about using wordpress.org for my site... Thing is, it's more aimed towards blogging that an actual site.. So drupal will be my other choice.


[edit] sorry, i didnt mean to bump this old topic. i was just looking through this stuff and had a reply.. :O sorry.
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