QuestLeader Member Posts: 629 From: My house, Va, USA Registered: 04-20-2005 |
I think, after looking at all the web hosts and stuff, that i want to turn an old computer i have into a site server. I don't know how I would go about doing that though, so can anyone help me? ------------------ |
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
what kind of internet connection do you have? ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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QuestLeader Member Posts: 629 From: My house, Va, USA Registered: 04-20-2005 |
i have cox ------------------ |
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bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
? ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
perhaps you should wait a few years before trying to set up a server. He wasnt asking for your ISP, he was asking for the type of connection you have!  ------------------ |
firemaker103 Member Posts: 643 From: Registered: 07-13-2005 |
every computer is a "server".. you can go directly to the ip address! ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
in order to host a site on the internet, and give it a .com, requires more. ------------------ |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
You're just better off buying space on a company's server. The cheapest that http://letzebuerg.net has is 3 bucks a year and you get about a gig of bandwidth... more than any of your old computer's can do if you site gets popular. If you used a new computer then you'd have a better chance. I'd suggest Linux and apache (cause it's free!  )------------------ 4096 bit GnuPG Encryption... you can't go wrong! |
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QuestLeader Member Posts: 629 From: My house, Va, USA Registered: 04-20-2005 |
3 bucks a year, or a month? ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
in my above post, i didnt mean to sound like a jerk...sorry if i did. ------------------ |
Jachin Member Posts: 113 From: Independence, OR, USA Registered: 01-03-2003 |
You need a cable or DSL connection. Remember your WANIP Set up you LAN: the Router and server at least Remember the server's LAN IP Make sure you can access your web site by entering the LAN IP in the address bar in a browser on another computer on your network. Open a [free] DSN account at a place like zoneedit.com Remember your Primary and secondary Nameserver addresses Buy a domain name from a place like godaddy.com Point the domain to your Primary and secondary Nameserver addresses Set your DNS account to web forward yourdomain to your WAN IP Set your router to port forward 80 to your server's LAN IP -Your done. It's not too hard! Just remember to write all the addresses down. You will probably learn more from doing this than looking for a free web host.
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: A year. No kidding check it out! http://letzebuerg.net/webhosting.html (It might have gone up a little though and it's in Euros so you'll have to converth them) ------------------ 4096 bit GnuPG Encryption... you can't go wrong! |
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QuestLeader Member Posts: 629 From: My house, Va, USA Registered: 04-20-2005 |
Umm... it gives mea monthly price: "SILVER PLAN - 30 MB Web Space Only € 0.42 per month" ------------------ |
Briant Member Posts: 742 From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada Registered: 01-20-2001 |
quote: Can you explain this part a bit more? I don't quite understand the DNS stuff. I have a server up and running now (XP with IIS). I can now see my servers's temp website from anywhere on the internet using the IP address (http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx), but not sure what to do next. Also, I have two other things I haven't figured out yet: 1. making my local network IP address static - when I switch it to static and give it a number (192.168.1.150 for example), it no longer sees the internet. When I switch it back to dynamic, it starts working again. 2. I haven't figured out how to set up "multiple" sites (besides just using subfolders), so people from CCN can each have their own protected webspace. Any ideas? Thanks! ------------------ |
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Briant Member Posts: 742 From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Making progress...  I have my static IP problem fixed. Now to figure out how to allow users to have their own accounts...------------------ |
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QuestLeader Member Posts: 629 From: My house, Va, USA Registered: 04-20-2005 |
BrianT, are you gonna host sites for ppl on CCN??? ------------------ |
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Briant Member Posts: 742 From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada Registered: 01-20-2001 |
quote: Ya, if I can figure out the next step. ------------------ |
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Jachin Member Posts: 113 From: Independence, OR, USA Registered: 01-03-2003 |
quote: Sure! |
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Jachin Member Posts: 113 From: Independence, OR, USA Registered: 01-03-2003 |
quote: Um, yeah you need to write down your network settings. (while they are dynamic and working) Try RUN, CMD, ipconfig/all, record your subnetmask, default gateway, DHCP, and DNS server[s]. All of this will stay the same when you set your ip to be static on your server. Before you do this though you need to make sure there is space next to your dynamic range on your DHCP server. I assume your DHCP server is your DSL router adress 192.168.0.1, |
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Jachin Member Posts: 113 From: Independence, OR, USA Registered: 01-03-2003 |
quote: You may want to grow intimate with IIS. |
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bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
are there any good online resources for setting up and running apache on a linux server? i'd like to mess around with it on my home network, i figure if i'm working toward being a network administrator i need to know this stuff, and iis if i'm not mistaken cost some serious $$$ which i won't have, and i want something i can set up and keep using it(since any free microsoft stuff is a time-limited version  ).------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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Jachin Member Posts: 113 From: Independence, OR, USA Registered: 01-03-2003 |
quote: Hi Benny, IIS is free if you have purchased the Windows OS, |
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Briant Member Posts: 742 From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada Registered: 01-20-2001 |
quote: Ya, you're right and I've been poking around and playing with the virtual directories. I'm not sure yet how to "protect" them so users can't have access to change other users' files. I'm looking into ZPanel (www.zpanel.net) which looks like it might work. ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
considering the type of site CCN is, it would be disappointing to see people meddling with stuff that isn't theirs. I would hope that we could all show some mutual respect. ------------------ |
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bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
will iis work on xp though? ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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Jachin Member Posts: 113 From: Independence, OR, USA Registered: 01-03-2003 |
quote: Yes, Windows 2000, Windows XP, and Windows 2003 |
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Jachin Member Posts: 113 From: Independence, OR, USA Registered: 01-03-2003 |
quote: There are many .net web apps that give the user file access to a specific directory on your server. Thus a CCN user who needs a host could upload thier site with the web app and you wouldn't have to anything but copy and paste the template for any new accounts. Instant web host. |
D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
If for some strange reason I wanted a web host on a Windows box Then I would probably use something like XAMPP to install everything in a Windows friendly way. Isn't IIS like swiss cheese? --D-SIPL ------------------ |
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bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
it seems to be the a lot of the big websites run apache, and microsoft seems to simple. ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
quote: Thats because Apache is far more secure and performance wise is a lot better imo. It hardly costs a lot which is a bonus --D-SIPL ------------------ |
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Jachin Member Posts: 113 From: Independence, OR, USA Registered: 01-03-2003 |
I have changed my mind about hosting a site with Microsoft's Windows 2003 Server. ...because of licensing costs. $ Server License $ User CALs for all in-house users $ External Connector License for all external users Can Microsoft think of more ways to get all the money! It could be that the Web edition allows some price breaks. ------------------ |
fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
http://www-ccs.cs.umass.edu/~shri/iPic.html Smallest server ever made. about the size of a nickle... ------------------ |
CobraA1 Member Posts: 926 From: MN Registered: 02-19-2001 |
I'm currently running a WAMP (Windows, Apache, MySql, PHP) stack on my own computer, so I can test my website before placing it on the Internet. I use GoDaddy for my actual hosting. Personally, I think Apache has the better track record for stability and performance. I've never had any problems with it. A server side language such as PHP can help immensly. Even if you only ever use the include statement, it allows you to pull stuff from several files together into one page - which makes things a lot easier. You can have one file be the header, another the nav bar, another the content, another the footer, etc. Instead of changing the navigation bar in every file, for example, you just change it in one file, and it's changed on every webpage Something like XAMPP should make installing a breeze, and you can have the website set up in no time at all. Domain names are a different matter, however. The easy way is simply to skip getting your own and use something like no-ip to create your own pseudo domain name, and they have software that will keep your IP address up to date (most ISPs use dynamic DNS, so your IP address is subject to change). And oh, yeah, you gotta open up port 80 (or whatever port you're hosting on) on your router/firewall if you have one. If you must get your own domain name, you should check to see that the administrative contact is set to your email address. This is extremely important for getting a domain name! That way you have ultimate control of the domain name. Also remember to keep it locked. I almost lost control of my own domain name this way. I personally recommend GoDaddy for domain names. Do not trust anybody who isn't well-known. Just because the website is professinal looking doesn't mean anything. If all you want is a website, though, and don't mind ads, you could go with something like GeoCities. Easy to use, even though not quite as flexible as a real web server. ------------------ |
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firemaker103 Member Posts: 643 From: Registered: 07-13-2005 |
i could send you a simple program: http://tinypic.com/ix5lpj.png I tried connecting with my regular ip, but my linksys is giving me all sorts of problems... ------------------ |
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Briant Member Posts: 742 From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Earlier in this thread, I talked about setting up a server for CCN people to use for free. I've been having some problems I haven't been able to solve yet - the system keeps hanging after a few hours, and I can't figure out why. So for now, don't expect it to come through soon, if at all. If I do manage to figure it out though, I'll let you all know when it's ready for user accounts. ------------------ |
