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bennythebear

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From: kentucky,usa
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ok, i got a few questions, any help would be appreciated. i was wondering if anybody knew any good books on java, javascript, cgi, perl, or tcl. also does anyone know any visual basic 6 books that actually explain the syntax, and the code, instead of explain how to make a pretty looking application that does nothing more than say "hello world!"? any help would be appreciated. one more thing, how did y'all do the bulletin board system, cause this is by far my favorite, or course it being filled with CHRISTian computer geeks/nerds does help :-).

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D-SIPL

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Have a look at the reccomendations of people over at Amazon, read the book reviews. They will give you a pretty good idea.

What OS are you developing for? is the application web based? Just that you have listed a number of web based languages. Have you looked at Python?

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bennythebear

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i've never checked out python. well, i want to be able to develop for linux, and windows, and mainly web based. another reason i want to learn the scripting laguages is i might try to write stuff specifically for network administrators. that's the main thing that caught my eye about java, i was reading in an i-net+ cert book and the said in theory you should be able to compile it on windows and run it on linux, and visa versa, but even if i can't do that i figured it wouldn't be that hard to switch it over. to start off with though, i'm planning on working with web based stuff. me and my cousin/best friend(andrewkgeary) are planning on doing a web site, but we need to get our skills built up before we try it. we planning on making a website that has some online based games, and a lot of helpful stuff for beginning web developers/programmers. for example, have an explination of several programming/scripting languages, what they're used for, and references to books to help them get started on their way. we also are going to have CHRISTian stuff, trying to reach out to computer geeks and gamers in general i reckon. thanks for the input. btw, does anyone think the site is a good idea, cause i aint really seen a site that is like the one we want to build?
cheater007
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One website that helped was this one. I never found any good books.
CobraA1

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Take a look into PHP also - I use that to generate HTML dynamically, so my page can have a consistent look and feel without having to change all of the pages each time I want a design change.

I use pbpBB for my forums, and I use Blog for the news iems on my webpages.

http://www.phpbb.com/
http://www.farook.org/

Java is also good, but I do more app programming than web programming with Java, so I probably can't help you much there. From what I hear, you can use it server-side just like PHP, in addition to the common usage of applets.

But yeah, if you want to make online games, Java is good. I'm currently working on a Java project right now .

FWI, Java does regular applications also, not just applets. It's just that you see it used in applets a lot more.

For web stuff, I also highly recommend http://www.w3schools.com/ - it'll help you make your website look good and work with all browsers.

The site's a good idea. Don't worry about not seeing other sites similar to yours - originality is a good thing .

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D-SIPL

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From: Maesteg, Wales
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quote:
Originally posted by bennythebear:
i've never checked out python. well, i want to be able to develop for linux, and windows, and mainly web based. another reason i want to learn the scripting laguages is i might try to write stuff specifically for network administrators. that's the main thing that caught my eye about java, i was reading in an i-net+ cert book and the said in theory you should be able to compile it on windows and run it on linux, and visa versa, but even if i can't do that i figured it wouldn't be that hard to switch it over. to start off with though, i'm planning on working with web based stuff. me and my cousin/best friend(andrewkgeary) are planning on doing a web site, but we need to get our skills built up before we try it. we planning on making a website that has some online based games, and a lot of helpful stuff for beginning web developers/programmers. for example, have an explination of several programming/scripting languages, what they're used for, and references to books to help them get started on their way. we also are going to have CHRISTian stuff, trying to reach out to computer geeks and gamers in general i reckon. thanks for the input. btw, does anyone think the site is a good idea, cause i aint really seen a site that is like the one we want to build?

I would definately check out Python then. It's a good scripting language with pretty basic syntax. It's great for doing network stuff. I started to write a Linux Distro GUI with it using curses which was fun. It's great at doing network stuff, and there is a big Python community to back it up.

Anyways enough of my jibbing.

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Klumsy

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i'd say go PHP , it is very fast and very good, and quite standard. on most web hosts these days, more so than python..
i love perl as well, but it hasn't developed as much as the other ones. PHP rocks

don't try asp
but if you are really into revolutionary stuff try asp.net with C#
its a proper programing language..

java too also is good because its a proper language as well..

i suppose the questions are.. what is availible with your webhost, what will work, what the learning curve is, and how much time you have, and what skillsets are useful for your future as well..

Karl

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D-SIPL

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quote:
Originally posted by klumsy:

but if you are really into revolutionary stuff try asp.net with C#
its a proper programing language..


But if he wants it to be cross-platformable then this really isn't an option.

Like Klumsy said PHP is good. Anyways, weigh up them all, see what you really want to do, and find the most suitable language.

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bennythebear

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thanks for all the input y'all. i don't intend on using asp. i'll prob'ly go with php, java/javascript, and perl for now. i believe from what i've read and heard of those they'll do anything i want or need to do, at least for now. the only microsoft compiler i'd use is vb6 to make a notepad looking html editor, i like the simple look, i just want to add some quick stuff to add the basic tags like 'head', 'body', etc. does anyone else here have an extremely difficult time staying focused in on one thing at a time??? oh, and one more question, what exactly is sql used for, databases?

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Klumsy

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quote:

But if he wants it to be cross-platformable then this really isn't an option.

all i have to say is

www.go-mono.com

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D-SIPL

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From: Maesteg, Wales
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quote:
Originally posted by klumsy:
all i have to say is

www.go-mono.com



Kool, will check it out when it's completed.

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bennythebear

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From: kentucky,usa
Registered: 12-13-2003
that mono thing sounds pretty cool. i guess now i just need to start actually studying the languages, instead of talking about it. thanks again for all the input people...and merry CHRISTmas!