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Help with Bible Translation Program - Visual Basic – threadprinter

threadprinter

Junior Member

Posts: 2
From: Los Angeles, CA
Registered: 11-08-2007
Greetings!

Was wondering if there was anyone out there with Visual Basic skills and desire to further the cause of Bible Translation. A friend of mine requested the following. I don't know much beyond this, but if you contact me offlist, we can figure out next steps. Thanks!! threadprinter (presently at) hotmail.com

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There is a tool that used to be part a suite that does a
simplified sort of machine translation, but it has not been made to
fully work with Unicode. If someone could write a new version of it, it
would help immensely.

- The tool needs to read from and write to a plain text database file
(using "standard format markers"-- a proprietary set of standard format conventions),

- and it needs to present two of the fields from that database
graphically, allowing the user to make a choice in one particular field
that can have more than one item in it.

- When the user makes a choice in a record, the database is changed to
have only that one option in that field for that record, instead of all
the options.

- All other contents of the database are left as they were.

- The user needs to make choices like this for all the records that
have multiple options in that particular field.

It's not all that involved, and I could provide much more specific specs
(and an example of a tool that does it half-way). The key point is that
it needs to render Unicode, using the Uniscribe DLL (or whatever is
available on other platforms--it can be cross-platform, but has to at
least work on Windows).

The current tool that was halfway converted to work with Unicode
is written in Visual Basic. The person who did that said he no longer
has access to the development tools, to apply the Unicode stuff to the
field he didn't apply it to. But if someone knows Visual Basic and
wants to take a look at this, it might not be that hard to take what my
colleague did to one field and apply it to the other.

Briant

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Posts: 742
From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada
Registered: 01-20-2001
Hi,

I have VB, although I do all my development in VC++. I would be interested in finding out more about this project, as I have a very keen interest in Bible translation, and how I can use my programming skills in that area. You can reply here, send me a private message, or email me at brian (at) tegarttech (dot) com.

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HanClinto

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Posts: 1828
From: Indiana
Registered: 10-11-2004
I too have and know VB (both VB6 and VB.Net), and I'm willing to back Brian up in this.

Feel free to reach me at hanclinto (at) gmail (dot) com.

--clint

[This message has been edited by HanClinto (edited November 08, 2007).]

spade89

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Posts: 561
From: houston,tx
Registered: 11-28-2006
hi and welcome to ccn threadprinter i don't know much about vb but wouldn't this job be done much more better in java??

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threadprinter

Junior Member

Posts: 2
From: Los Angeles, CA
Registered: 11-08-2007
Brian and Clint, thanks for offering to help! My friend is in contact with you, and probably currently overwhelming you with project information. If anyone else out there wants to get their feet wet in the arcane art of machine translation and help out on this project, let me know.

spade89 - hello, and nice to meet you! Java may be better suited, as you say. For this project, there seems to be an issue of legacy code and compatibility with a software suite already in production. Frankly, a lot of this stuff is way above my head... haha, you've outted me as a non-programmer. =)

I've been blessed to have contact with a lot of techie folks in Christian organizations. I hear a lot of tech needs out there, and know just enough to semi-intelligently determine if their needs are ones that can be met by the volunteer Coder Body of Christ. If the community here might like the opportunity to use their tech skills for the kingdom then I'll keep my ears open for other needs.

For this, and hopefully more projects, we might need a sort of CVS and wiki to coordinate efforts. I've been asking the CODN.net folks about setting something up like Trac. Any suggestions for good community workflow?

TallBill

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Posts: 298
From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: 11-22-2002
The problem I have with most current Bible translation software is that it only ever gives you the root word that the word you actually clicked on comes from. I would desire software that actually deals directly with what you actually clicked on instead of jumping right to the root that it came from and explaining nothing more. It should tell you the word you clicked on, the root that it springs from, how the two are related to each other, and what each of them means, instead of completely ignoring the word you actually clicked on. The benefit for the developer(s) is that they get to learn more Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek in the process of writing the software.

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HanClinto

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Posts: 1828
From: Indiana
Registered: 10-11-2004
quote:
Originally posted by threadprinter:
For this, and hopefully more projects, we might need a sort of CVS and wiki to coordinate efforts. I've been asking the CODN.net folks about setting something up like Trac. Any suggestions for good community workflow?


This would be a great first project for the CODN. In lieu of that, Samw3 and I have got a server with Wiki, SVN and Bugzilla set up for projects just like this -- if CODN isn't available at the moment, I'd be happy to set something up.

--clint

SSquared

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From: Pacific Northwest
Registered: 03-22-2005
This is giving me goosebumps. Or...maybe it's the "Lord of the Rings Soundtrack" I'm listening to. That, and I am just super-hyped on finishing up some work on this dialog at work. C# is just so fun!

OK, well, I would also be interested in helping out, but I do not have VB skills. I would still like to see and hear about the project. This totally fits my interest as my enjoyment is in application development. The site is focused rather heavily on games, so this is a refreshing request and opportunity.

I sent off an e-mail.