MastaLlama Member Posts: 671 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
How do I write a Non Disclosure Agreement? |
samw3 Member Posts: 542 From: Toccoa, GA, USA Registered: 08-15-2006 |
nolo has a book on it... also I just googled it and it turned up some results. God Bless!
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Cohort X Member Posts: 126 From: The Great Pacific Northwest Registered: 09-16-2006 |
I --------, do hereby agree to maintain absolute secrecy with regards to any information I should discover, uncover, recover, or precover(?) after or prior to signing this document. Should any information gleaned , told, created, or imprinted ever be transferred to another within, without, or with this company by word, deed, omission, implication, remission, or superstition I, my children and my children's children for ten generations will pay either monetarily, or in bodily organs, the company all potential revenue that could have possibly been earned directly, indirectly, or redirectly(?) from any and all information created since the founding of civilization on any shores which the company has or will ever perform business.(period) [This message has been edited by Cohort X (edited June 27, 2007).] |
ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
I'm assuming "Hey! Don't tell no one or I'll break your shins" isn't a professional NDA... ------------------ |
steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
I'll tell you how to write one, but you'll have to sign one first, so you don't give away any of my valuable secrets. ------------------ [This message has been edited by steveth45 (edited June 28, 2007).] |
SSquared Member Posts: 654 From: Pacific Northwest Registered: 03-22-2005 |
That was PRICELESS Steve. Hoo boy! That was goooooood. Cohort's was quite enjoyable too. And Arch, you can probably sue over that one. You can also look at your own contract with your current employer. There are usually statements in there about giving away trade secrets and such. |
kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
You will also want to check your local laws because some state prohibit NDA's relating to certain industries and certain types of professionals. Mostly they will apply if the NDA relates to any type of medical or security industry. |
MastaLlama Member Posts: 671 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
Ok, most of you guys are nuts. @Sam - Thanks for the links. I've searched google and I'm interested in what CCNers say about it. @Ken - I'll look into the local laws, I never even thought about that. |
GUMP Member Posts: 1335 From: Melbourne, FL USA Registered: 11-09-2002 |
Sample XrucifiX NDA. Just in case you're wondering, Two Guys Software Inc. is the umbrella corporation while XrucifiX and ICE are 2 separate LLC's. Just modify to your needs and replace TGS with your name/address.
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MastaLlama Member Posts: 671 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
quote: Umbrella Corporation from Resident Evil? Yikes! hee hee Thanks gump, this is awesome! I'll read through it all this evening and look at a few others I've found online that I like. |
Lazarus Member Posts: 1668 From: USA Registered: 06-06-2006 |
quote: I guess that's what it takes to be a standup comedian. "Hey! Don't tell no one or I'll break your shins" I had to sign an NDA for a beta test once. It basically just said |
dartsman Member Posts: 484 From: Queensland, Australia Registered: 03-16-2006 |
I'm currently under I think 3 or more NDAs (2 for Auran (fury developer, and one for my internship project), 1 for Rebel Planet Creations, possibly 1 for Qantm (more of a contract and IP ownership)) and yeah, pretty much its just 'don't take our idea, we are able to sue you if you cause loss of property/business or damages to the company'. For the fury alpha there was the EULA which people had to agree on, which went pretty detailed, even saying things like 'cannot reverse engineer, modify, tamper, etc. with the software provide (by auran)'. It's definitely a good thing to get these sorts of documents figured out if external people (non developers) are going to have access to something which you sent your time on. It could mean quiet a lot down the track. I have heard of some projects without the paper work (NDAs, contracts, etc) which have been pretty much pulled from under their feet and actually 'stolen' however, there has been no paper work to define who 'owns' the rights to it, or to prevent other people from taking the ideas from it... if it's something precious, just make sure to cover yourself... EDIT: oh, and best way to write one... get a lawyer (experienced in game/software industry law) to write one up... ------------------ [This message has been edited by dartsman (edited June 29, 2007).] |
steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
Meh, I think video games are all in the execution and ideas are a dime a million. "I'm working on a MMO-action-RPG set in space with robots and genetically engineered monkeys. The robot vs. monkey combat will be revolutionary." Perhaps. To me, nothing says, "I don't trust you, but I have a very high opinion of myself." like having someone sign an NDA before telling them about your idea for a project. ------------------ |
MastaLlama Member Posts: 671 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
quote: What's wrong with that? I think if someone wants to be involved in a project but won't sign a NDA then they *really* don't want to be apart of it then. People are not trust worthy. |
dartsman Member Posts: 484 From: Queensland, Australia Registered: 03-16-2006 |
quote: Thats just stupid, I'm sure everyone at Blizzard had to sign NDA/Contracts for WoW, let alone every other major games studio would do the same. Ideas are precious. Take 'The Sims' as another major example.
quote: Sure I could see your point if it was just some 'hobby' project with no real revenue planned for the project. But when it comes down to the revenue earning projects, giving out ideas too early could see the revenue drop with competitors cashing in on some 'fresh idea'. ------------------ |
steveth45 Member Posts: 536 From: Eugene, OR, USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
It is necessary for any company that hires people to have them sign NDA's. You can't fully trust an employee to keep your secrets safe just on principle, they are there for the money and you need to have the possibility of legal action. However, when all you have is some "great" ideas and the desire to get a project off the ground, it's a real slap in the face to hand someone an NDA, especially if they are thinking about volunteeringto give some of their precious time because they are genuinely excited about your project. Here is why: When you sign an NDA, you are willingly giving up some of your rights. For example, if you have an idea for a game, and it turns out that a somewhat similar idea for a game is covered by the NDA you've signed, too bad for you. Now you can be sued if you make a game that's remotely similar to something you learned under the NDA. It's only ever worth it to sign an NDA if that involves you getting money. It's just my opinion, take it or leave it. But if you are trying to get a project off the ground and are offering people NDA's to sign, but no money to compensate for the rights they've just signed over, good luck. When someone hands me an NDA for their personal project, I have to ask myself, is it out of greed, narcissism, or ignorance? I want nothing to do with the first two, and if it truly is out of ignorance, then I probably don't want to get involved either. ------------------ |
MastaLlama Member Posts: 671 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
@Steveth45 - I can understand what you are saying here. I'm not disagreeing and I didn't mean to sound negative in my previous post back to you. I also assumed it was understood I meant for a compensated position in a project. Does anyone else have an examples of NDA's they'd like to share? I've really enjoyed what I've read so far! I think this will be one of the least difficult legal documents I've ever written. |
dartsman Member Posts: 484 From: Queensland, Australia Registered: 03-16-2006 |
quote: haha... [sarcasm]yeah, I got lots of money from my Internship at a games studio and for Beta Testing the Axys Adventures game[/sarcasm]... ------------------ |
jestermax Member Posts: 1064 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: 06-21-2006 |
i agree with signing an NDA for any idea. it only takes one person to rip off an idea and thats a lot of temptation to give to someone (even if the idea DOES suck). ------------------ |
GUMP Member Posts: 1335 From: Melbourne, FL USA Registered: 11-09-2002 |
Nondisclosures are often considered very important to do business. For example, we're working with a group that would freak out if we merely mentioned the name of the project, never mind a basic description, if the people we're telling are not covered under NDA. |