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Mene-Mene

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Posts: 1398
From: Fort Wayne, IN, USA
Registered: 10-23-2006
I downloaded a program to try it out. Unfortunetly the program doesn't work, so I attempt to delete it. It says that the programs in use by another program. I want to get rid of it, and no other programs are running.

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Lava
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Try rebooting, then delete. If that doesn't work, leave it alone for a while and then try again.

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[This message has been edited by LAVA (edited February 18, 2007).]

kenman

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Posts: 518
From: Janesville WI
Registered: 08-31-2006
If you cant delete it after reboot, you might want to boot into safe mode, it might have dropped a virus or dropped something into your start up routine

Lazarus

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From: USA
Registered: 06-06-2006
That has happened to me before(and with files that definitely were not virus-spyware-malware-trojan etc.)

Best solution I can find is to just wait a few days, then try deleting it again.

Mene-Mene

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Posts: 1398
From: Fort Wayne, IN, USA
Registered: 10-23-2006
I've looked for help on safe mode, but couldn't get into it. Anyway, last time I had something that had this problem, it had something to do with processes or the registry. Arg, sometime I'm going to finish that school and get into linux!

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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto
I reserve the full right to change my views/theories at any time.

steveth45

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From: Eugene, OR, USA
Registered: 08-10-2005
quote:
Originally posted by Mene-Mene:
I downloaded a program to try it out. Unfortunetly the program doesn't work, so I attempt to delete it. It says that the programs in use by another program. I want to get rid of it, and no other programs are running.

You can download a program called Process Explorer for Windows that not only lists the programs running, but shows which file is open by which program. I had to use it the other day at work, because I couldn't delete a file for the same reason. It's much better than Task Manager.

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spade89

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Posts: 561
From: houston,tx
Registered: 11-28-2006
try shutting down some services and try to kill every single process and dll you don't need.

as long as the system lets you and it's not explorer.exe it's usually safe to kill.
here are some really really handy utitlities:


http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/ProcessMonitor.zip

http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/PsTools.zip

http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/Handle.zip

http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/Filemon.zip

http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/ProcessExplorer.zip

or incase if you want to get the whole thing here is a link:
http://www.systeminternals.com/


if you can't get in safemode, try using a startup disk.

if you can't do that too, try modifying the boot.ini file at c:\boot.ini

try adding /SAFEBOOT

or /SOS

here is an example boot.ini file i put it in quotes to make things look better:

quote:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINDOWS="SPADE'S XP SAFE BOOT" /SAFEBOOT

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINDOWS="MY SOS" /SOS


oh i use f:/ drive as my windows drive so if the windows folder is in c:\ on your system you might have to make the part that says partition(4) to partition(1) get it.....1==c so 4==f . anyways try that.

the only other ways i could tell you would probably violate the eula.

like shutting down the sfc .....

oh and here is a cool tool if you are really sick of spywares and adwares it's a port monitor(tcp/ip) it lets you see which program has which ports open with who. and at what port you can also kill any process you want or if you don't want that you can just close the socket.

http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/TcpView.zip


EDIT: it appears steveth45 and me posted at the same time an he also posted about process explorer, i listed more tools too. but the process explorere is reall better than taskman and most of the other types of tools are not found in windows.
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crazyishone

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You can also try using privilege escalation. If you're logged in as an administrator you can using the scheduling service. Open command prompt and type ::

at 7:43 /interactive "cmd.exe"

Change the time to whatever is one minute or so after the current time. In a few moments a new console will pop up, this one will be actually be svchost.exe (Windows Service Host)
Using taskmanager, close explorer. Then in your svchost.exe command prompt, type "explorer.exe" or just "exlporer"
You will now be logged in as "SYSTEM", and should be able to stop almost any process.

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Mene-Mene

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Posts: 1398
From: Fort Wayne, IN, USA
Registered: 10-23-2006
I tried Process Explorer and see nothing suspicious, hmm... maybe I'll just wait a little while for it to cool down.

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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto
I reserve the full right to change my views/theories at any time.

jestermax

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Posts: 1064
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: 06-21-2006
its a good idea to keep a list of normal processes for your machine. that way if something starts to act funny, you can check to see which "hostile" processes are running.
spade89

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Posts: 561
From: houston,tx
Registered: 11-28-2006
hey have you tried the safeboot method?? btw what kind of file is it?? is it a txt file??? if you are unsure which process is good and which is bad try:
http://www.processlist.com

if you find a process that is not listed on that site or that is listed as a bad process then kill it, but before you do that find out where it is located,then kill it and delete it.

and have you tried the other tools???

and can you find the name of the program you installed in the process list??

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Matthew(22:36-40)"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
Whose Son Is the Christ

Mene-Mene

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Posts: 1398
From: Fort Wayne, IN, USA
Registered: 10-23-2006
I've tried all the tools, looked for the name, and nothing come up.

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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto
I reserve the full right to change my views/theories at any time.

spade89

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Posts: 561
From: houston,tx
Registered: 11-28-2006
ok try this:
http://www.diskcleaners.com/files/deletedr.exe

and try:
http://download.uniblue.com/aff/rb/registryboosterbc.exe
http://download.uniblue.com/aff/se/spyeraseraff.exe

and what is the file name??? is it a dll exe txt tmp dat.....

cause the file type makes a difference

and have you tried the safeboot.

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Matthew(22:36-40)"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
Whose Son Is the Christ

Mene-Mene

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Posts: 1398
From: Fort Wayne, IN, USA
Registered: 10-23-2006
Delete Dr. to the rescue! Thanks Spade, it worked. Thank you. As they say, you ACEd it! lol.

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MM out-
Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto
I reserve the full right to change my views/theories at any time.

spade89

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Posts: 561
From: houston,tx
Registered: 11-28-2006
np

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Matthew(22:36-40)"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
Whose Son Is the Christ

Briant

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Posts: 742
From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada
Registered: 01-20-2001
Sometimes an app or even Windows itself forgets to release a hold/lock on a file or folder, and it makes it difficult to delete it. It's not the file's fault, some app just forgot to release it. For example, I run into this quite often with Visual Studio 2005, when I want to delete some intermediate .obj files or whatever. Rather than rebooting just to remove the lock, I've found http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/ is a nifty freeware app that does the trick nicely.

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spade89

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Posts: 561
From: houston,tx
Registered: 11-28-2006
but shouldn't that be fixed when the system reboots?? or is this one of those mft messes.

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Matthew(22:36-40)"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
Whose Son Is the Christ