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crazyishone

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Hey, lava and I are seeking another programmer for our next game.
We both intend to learn python in the process of development, but a lead with some solid experience would be much appreciated.

Some workload information:
Regular work will more than likely be needed, but we're giving this game a time frame of 6 months. I would say that 3 to 5 hours per week would be a healthy pace for completion.

Programming duties will not fall solely upon your shoulders, but you will be heavily involved in the programming of this game, with me trying to keep up.

As far as programming goes, we will be using:
pygame
twisted (networking)
pyOgre (graphics)
pyODE (physics) - possible
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Ideally, coding will begin on the Friday after next. Until that time we will be designing the game and gathering resources. I'd like to find a main programmer as soon as possible so we know how long we can expect each stage of development to take.

Game Description:
Networked Multiplayer RPG. (note: not MMO)
Players will find "intances" through a lobby, as though playing a FPS.
Post here if you want more details. Not a "Christian" game, not an "immoral" game.

Brass tacks?
Closed-source, freeware. No compensation, just credit. This is essentially going to be a relaxed development process that should yield tangible results. We may not reach our most ambitious goals, but we'll learn quite a bit. PM to apply, notify me of your pm here.

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buddboy

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sounds pretty cool.

Tried to PM you but I get an Internal Server Error.

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HanClinto

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This really does sound like a cool project. I'm full up to my gills right now with stuff to do, but just wanted to say that I'm very interested in seeing how this one goes!

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CPUFreak91

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quote:
Originally posted by crazyishone:
Hey, lava and I are seeking another programmer for our next game.
We both intend to learn python in the process of development, but a lead with some solid experience would be much appreciated.

Programming duties will not fall solely upon your shoulders, but you will be heavily involved in the programming of this game, with me trying to keep up.


Hmm. I'm interested. I believe I can commit to 3 to 5 hours a week. Don't count me in just yet though I'm about to start 4 other things that may be time consuming and I'm not sure if I'll be doing all of them, or none of them. Still though, I am interested.

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Lava
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quote:
Originally posted by crazyishone:
Hey, lava and I are seeking another programmer for our next game.
We both intend to learn python in the process of development, but a lead with some solid experience would be much appreciated.


Well, technically I'm not involved, I am undecided because of my current project.

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crazyishone

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Right.

Well thanks for your interest guys. As you know, the project is probably doomed to failure, but it is worth a shot. Even if all I do is learn a language, its worth it.

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CPUFreak91

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Ugh. Ok. I think I've found that my time for Feb. will be limited. I'm sorry I can't help you.

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steveth45

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quote:
Originally posted by crazyishone:

[b]As far as programming goes, we will be using:

pygame
twisted (networking)
pyOgre (graphics)
pyODE (physics) - possible
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I'd like to find a main programmer as soon as possible so we know how long we can expect each stage of development to take.
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It seems to me like the brainchild of a project should be the lead programmer, especially if the language and tools have already been chosen.

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crazyishone

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Maybe its because I just woke up, but I didn't really understand that. The wording seems weird.... care to clarify?

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Lava
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I think he means that the person who has the idea for the project should be the main programmer.

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CPUFreak91

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quote:
Originally posted by LAVA:
I think he means that the person who has the idea for the project should be the main programmer.


It does help...

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buddboy

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yeah but at game companies they have one person/group come up with the idea, then they have programmers to program it.

if it works there... ?

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Lava
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At the same time, the leader idea person leads the team through the ideas till finish. This project is mostly programming, so instead of leading someone through the ideas, they lead the team through the programming.

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crazyishone

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Yeah, well we can criticize my leadership plans, but I have a better idea. I said I would be heavily involved in the programming, but it would be nice to have somebody more experienced than myself as well. I also never laid out some big plan for how things have to be, I just I want to use python and hopefully some of those tools. I have a general idea of what type of game it will be, everything else would be decided by everyone working on it. (So we know what can and can not happen, etc.)

It appears as though I'll be working on this one alone.

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steveth45

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Sorry, that first post of mine did not make sense, I applaud those that "broke" the code.

The person who makes the decision that a project is going to be written in a particular language, has already become the lead programmer. A lead programmer of a project is the person that makes decisions about how to architect a project, and makes sure each part fits together correctly. It is more management than coding. If this project is your brainchild, and you'd like to call the shots about how it is programmed, that makes you the lead programmer, even if someone else does most of the code.

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crazyishone

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Ah. Well, to simplify my request I just wanted somebody to work with on this project. I chose python because I read that development time is fast and I want to have something to show for by june.

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Lazarus

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I might be able to help - haven't used Python in a while though.
Lava
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I have no problem with learning Python. Joining the project though is what I am most indecisive about, how much time it will take to work on it vs obligation vs completion.

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crazyishone

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No real obligation to complete other than the fact that I want to, and I would hope that whoever I work with also wants to for the most part. This isn't "zomg I have leik the grtst idea evr@!! top secret tho, pm for detailz!"

Just looking for a partner in crime so we can work together. I find that when one other person is involved that can contribute something, there is mutual motivation.

Laz, I would be glad to have your help if you really want to get knee-deep in python with me. Just be aware that the game will have killing and possibly magic elements. Then again, maybe not. To be decided with future "teammate".

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Lazarus

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I've got no problem with either one, Crazyishone.
I love playing Wesnoth and it has both of those... actually Wesnoth drips with that kind of thing.

I would also like to learn more Python - I've played around with it back a year or two ago, but never really did much programming in it.

Python 2.4 and Pygame 1.7.1, right?

crazyishone

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Yeah I believe so.

At some point we need to track down a 3d artist if lava isn't interested in that work. I can't model anything that needs to be animated. :-p

Do you have aim?

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Lazarus

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I had to uninstall it.

So this is going to be 3D?

crazyishone

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Preferably, yes. I'm hoping it won't be too difficult in python.

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Lazarus

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Yeah, I'm guessing the graphics will be the hardest part in this project.

Could we use IRC (the ccn channel) instead of AIM? I really don't want to install it again. (think: p-a-r-e-n... you know the rest)

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If you'd like, I could try my hand at 3D modeling for this project. After I got the game programming job, I've started to spend my free time expanding my artistic side, with drawing and whatnot. I also have some experience with MilkShape 3D. The PM system is busted for me, so you can email me:
stevegossATsteveth45DOTnet .

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crazyishone

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Ok I'll contact you guys with more information by this Friday.

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Lazarus

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Monday - Tuesday - Wednesday - Thursday - Friday - Saturday.

Any more news, Crazyishone?

crazyishone

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Yeah I had a bit of a life issue.

As a first point, we should all familiarize (or re familiarize) ourselves with python. I'll work on getting an irc channel or something of the sort.

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Lazarus

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The #ccn-chatzone on Freenode won't suffice?

As for tutorials on Python, here's one btw: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Programmers I'm going through it.

crazyishone

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The ccn chatroom is not for private development, its for public community use. I am quite sick right now (can barely hold myself up), so bear with me.

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CPUFreak91

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Originally posted by crazyishone:
The ccn chatroom is not for private development, its for public community use. I am quite sick right now (can barely hold myself up), so bear with me.


You could create your own IRC chatroom and make it private (ie, only invite people to the chatroom and restrict anyone from joining it themseles)

Hope you get better soon.

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Lazarus

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K.

Yes, hope you get better soon.

Lazarus

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Well, I'm still here. PyOgre looks like an interesting piece of work, so far.