Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
No, im not hiring, but i am looking for help. my cool christain game requires a few things that i CAN get, but would take me a while to. I need 40 bible verses!!! 20 from the old, and 20 from the new testament, that even "beginner" christans even slightly know! the game idea itself is still as of yet not unveiled by me. Finding 40 bible verses is really hard! I kneed to know the EXACT TEXT, the Book, chapter, and verse number! I can't even find "For God so loved the world, he gave his only son so that we might..." and i can't even remember it! HELLLLPP!!! ------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! P.S. I HATE 640x480!!!!!! |
CoolJ Member Posts: 354 From: ny Registered: 07-11-2004 |
1 John 4:8 "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love." - good luck with your game! |
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Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
Cool, i just hope that fits under the "Everybody knows it" catagory! It should be moving on pretty quickly, when i have enough verses! ------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! P.S. I HATE 640x480!!!!!! |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
John 3:16 Genesis 1:1 Romans 12 (the whole chapter) Romans 8:28 Psalm 91 (whole chapter) Psalm 1 (whole chapter) ------------------ [This message has been edited by lava (edited April 09, 2006).] |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
1 Corinthians 13 has good stuff on Love. Read the whole thing and choose what you want, because there's so much from there. ------------------ |
goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
Psalm 119: Whole chapter  ------------------ |
Dyreck Member Posts: 20 From: Registered: 12-17-2002 |
Hey, don't forget the whole chapter of Psalm 23 and Matthew 5:1-11 is The Beatitudes, those are some very common chapters. A good place to look up passages that you can't remember the concordance to or just remember a part of it is http://www.biblegateway.com/ there are even mutilple translations to look through. Good luck RM! [This message has been edited by Dyreck (edited April 10, 2006).] |
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
nevermind... ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs [This message has been edited by bennythebear (edited April 10, 2006).] |
ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
"Ehud then approached him while he was sitting alone in the upper room of his summer palace and said, "I have a message from God for you." As the king rose from his seat, 21 Ehud reached with his left hand, drew the sword from his right thigh and plunged it into the king's belly. 22 Even the handle sank in after the blade, which came out his back. Ehud did not pull the sword out, and the fat closed in over it." Judges 3:20-22 ------------------ |
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Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
does the 144,000 mean only 144,000 are going to be saved??!?!?!?! IS that going to be all who made it to heaven??!??! ------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! P.S. I HATE 640x480!!!!!! |
HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
quote: No, read right after it -- you'll see that it says there are uncountable multitudes from every tongue tribe and nation. Incidentally, I think that the Jehovah Witnesses used to teach that the 144,000 represented the Jehovah Witnesses. They no longer teach that though, because their membership numbers have started breaking the 144k mark, so they had to change their doctrine a bit since then. --clint |
webmaster Member Posts: 28 From: West Virginia, USA Registered: 04-05-2006 |
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him SHOULD not parish, but have everlasting life. Mark 16:16 Theres two. Read those carefully...I have a theroy that could change everything... John 3:16 says "SHOULD" 'Should' does not mean "WILL", and or isn't promised. Not concrete. If you believe not, you will be damned. It is my theroy that there is a caste system in Heaven. HIGHEST RANK-Believed and were Baptized I may be wrong. Ponder this for a moment... ------------------ If practice makes perfect, and no one is perfect, then why practice? -Yours Truely |
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webmaster Member Posts: 28 From: West Virginia, USA Registered: 04-05-2006 |
Genesis 2:28 And God blessed them and God said unto them, Be friutful and mutuply, and replenish the eatch, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Psalms 23 (Whole Chapter) The Lord if my sheperd; I shall not want. He maketh me lie down in green pastures; He leadeth me beside still waters. He restoreth my soul; He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake. Matthew 1:21 Hope this kinda helps... BTW, wana know somthing funny, my Mom, who thinks all forums, chats, any kind of IRC is evil or bad, thinks its fishy that a person is asking for Bible verses. Mom thinks that I am going to try to meet someone over the internet. Lol! It's "fishy" and she is scared that I'm going to be abused or somthing. Funny hua? ------------------ If practice makes perfect, and no one is perfect, then why practice? -Yours Truely |
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goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
*points up* Hes Catholic Sorry, I have an obsession with trying to spot Catholics... dunno why...
quote: With all the repetetiveness of the Bible Im sure it would have said "but he who believeth not, nor has been baptized shall be damned." What happens to babies? Do they go to Hell cause they arent old enough to 1. Make the decision to be baptised 2. Hold their breath underwater
quote: I havent been baptised. I beleive and accept God, beleive and accept Jesus sacrafice, and beleive that makes me saved. Im not trying to be a jerk or anything, its just that this dosent make much sense to me. [EDIT] I was thinkin of meeting someone today... come to find out she lives many many states away [/EDIT] ------------------ [This message has been edited by goop2 (edited April 10, 2006).] |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
Webmaster, I'm not ganging up on you or anything, I just have a question, do you think the thief on the cross was saved? He wasn't baptized. ------------------ [This message has been edited by lava (edited April 10, 2006).] [This message has been edited by lava (edited April 10, 2006).] |
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Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
AUGH! IM GOING TO HELLL! Aww man! I havn't been batized either!!! Awwwwww maaann!! ------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! P.S. I HATE 640x480!!!!!! |
D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
You dont have to be baptised to go to heaven, but it's a good step to take when your ready. Like Lava said, the theif on the cross wasn't baptised --D-SIPL ------------------ |
kiwee Member Posts: 578 From: oxfordshire, england Registered: 04-17-2004 |
It could mean baptized in the holy spirit, that is different. well I have been Baptised by Water, Christened, Baptized in the holy spirit, and Annointed (twice). ------------------ |
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webmaster Member Posts: 28 From: West Virginia, USA Registered: 04-05-2006 |
1.) I am Methodist and Penicostal. Not Cathlic 2.) There are exceptions... If a man on his death bed gets saved, he will enter. 3.) Somewhere in the Bible, it mentions an age where you are considered responsible for your sins... PLEASE DON'T THINK LOWLY ON MY BECAUSE OF THIS, IT IS SIMPLY A THEROY. If I offended anyone, I am sorry
If practice makes perfect, and no one is perfect, then why practice? -Yours Truely [This message has been edited by webmaster (edited April 11, 2006).] [This message has been edited by webmaster (edited April 11, 2006).] |
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Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
*Crying insanely* I don't wanna go to hell!!! AUUUUUGGGHHHH!!! I'd feel wrong, however, to get babtized just because I feel as if its extra insurance of my heavenly home-to-be (1/800th of an acer, but hey, its HEAVEN!!! lol. (I hope...) )...maybe if i feel like it one day I will. Right now, its REALLY cold outside, and i don't know of many babtisms anyhwere... ------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! P.S. I HATE 640x480!!!!!! |
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Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
Ohh! ooh!! DA**!!! i just had one!!! arrg!! is... its in proverbs! yes, i think it is... oohhh...grrr... something like the first shall come last and the last shall come first. arrrgggg!! ------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! P.S. I HATE 640x480!!!!!! |
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webmaster Member Posts: 28 From: West Virginia, USA Registered: 04-05-2006 |
Okay, I'm glad you aren't mad at me. Again, just a personal theroy of mine that could, probably is, wrong. Sorry about the extra stress. -Das Webmastri ------------------ If practice makes perfect, and no one is perfect, then why practice? -Yours Truely |
Tonnyx Member Posts: 140 From: Indiana, USA Registered: 08-02-2005 |
Hey, Webmaster! Interesting theory. I've wondered about the "hierarchy" idea, since the Bible does talk about "the greatest" and the "least" in the kingdom of heaven. I've never quite known what to make of it. However, I will respectfully dispute with you as far as baptism's being the deciding factor. Jesus also says that one who breaks God's commandments and teaches others to do the same will called least in the kingdom (Matt 5:19), and vice versa - the greatest is one who keeps God's commands and teaches others the same. Also, one who humbles himself like a child is the greatest in the kingdom (Matt 18:4). I definitely think that baptism is something that an obedient Christian who is physically able ought to do (the thief on the cross was not physically able given his circumstances), but there are also many other important issues of obedience and humility that might have more of a bearing on one's "status" in heaven. And, like Realm said, "hey, it's *heaven*!" [edit: minor appearance and diction changes] ------------------ [This message has been edited by tonnyx (edited April 13, 2006).] |
crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
looking at my current lifestyle, I think I'll be living in a box in heaven. I think a heirarchy in heaven is less important than the possibility of one such heirarchy in hell. Somebody once proposed to me the idea of "levels of hell". Something concerning how the murderers and rapists would suffer far worse torment than say, one who led a good life but never "received" Christ, per se. Here was the thing- its commonly stated that God sees all sins as the same. Stealing bread = rape = adultery. But God is also said to be fair and just. It would seem that if those who follow his commandments and tell and instruct others to the same will have a "higher place" in heaven, then those same people (without true salvation though) would hold a more...ehm.."comfortable" place in hell. You know, like the kind old lady who went to church every sunday and nobody could remember the last time she spoke a word in anger. But she always refused to "accept Christ as her savior" in the traditional Christian fashion. (excuse the Christianese. Not sure how else to put it clearly though). If a heavenly heirarchy exists, surely one in hell is plausible as well. ------------------ |
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Tonnyx Member Posts: 140 From: Indiana, USA Registered: 08-02-2005 |
quote: Dante's Inferno, written in the early 1300s, portrays exactly that, as well as levels of Paradise. HanClinto tells me that the idea of levels of heaven is also present in the pseudepigraphal book of Enoch, written even before Jesus' time.
quote: To some degree, it is true that God sees sins "the same" - sin is sin, and he who fails to keep one point of the law is guilty of breaking all of it (James 2:11), and any sin, no matter how "small", results in separation from God. I'm fascinated, though, by the lists of people who are condemned. One that still gets me is the one in Rev. 21:8: "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." Whoa there. The *cowards* are listed right alongside the murderers and the immoral? That makes me stop to think. Several other passages in the Bible mention greed when they discuss the unsaved, and call it idolatry, and list it alongside homosexuality and swindling (1 Cor 6:9-10, for example), which makes me think again about all those cookies I ate. So anyway, I bring that up to say that it's hard to tell what God's "hierarchy" might be, exactly. ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
quote: Wrong. these different sins had different punishments according to OT law. and in the new testament, sins were also diversafied. Blaspheming the Holy Spirit > Blaspheming Jesus. Sexual Sins > regular sins. Homosexuality is refered to as an abomination, but many other sins aren't. I don't even know where God said all sins are equal. they may all lead to death, and they may be listed together, but that in know way proves they are all equal.
People who accept Christ just get a "Get of Hell Free" card, so to speak. ------------------ |
luke Member Posts: 311 From: I use your computer as my second Linux box Registered: 10-30-2005 |
you got that right ArchAngel ------------------ |
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Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
the 9 (or is it 7) levels of hell, eh? ------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! P.S. I HATE 640x480!!!!!! |
Ereon Member Posts: 1018 From: Ohio, United States Registered: 04-12-2005 |
Is that scripturally based Realm? ------------------ "I am very good at hiding, so if you don't see me, that's where I am." Orc Outlaw, TES III Morrowind |
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Dyreck Member Posts: 20 From: Registered: 12-17-2002 |
quote: the way I understand baptism is that it is an outward sign of you excepting Jesus Christ, basicaly telling the whole world "I am a follower of Christ, a cherished child of the King". I mean we can accept Jesus Christ as our personal savior in private any time by ourselves or in a close group of friends but the baptism is meant for showing the world that you want to follow God and his son Jesus Christ for the rest of you life. About the hierachy of hell, well I think seperation from God is the greatest punishment and nothing our finite mortal minds can imagine can compare to that kind of pain. Didn't Jesus himself cry out from the cross "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" Matt 27:46. I just wonder what it must have felt like to never have known serperation from God, and then suddenly feel a gaping, impassable void between him and you. I don't think it matters what else is done to someone in hell, that is true damnation. Also, if you would like to look at a unique view of heaven, and hell read "The Greate Divorce" by C.S. Lewis. For those who don't know who he is, C.S. Lewis wrote the Chronicles of Narnia series and many other works that deal with christianity. He is without a doubt one of my top 5 authors along with Tolken (the Lord of the Rings) and God (Bible and all Creation). |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
To tack onto what Dyreck said about the Great Divorce, for anyone who reads it, keep in mind Lewis didn't actually believe that's how heaven would be, he was just using that story to illustrate things about ourselves as humans. He has notes in his foreward on the book about the subject. Keep in mind the book also builds off the concept of "the people in Hell wouldn't want to be in Heaven anyways" -- it's not a bad view necessarily, but it's not the only way to look at how the people in Hell feel (look at the parable of Lazarus for more on this one). It's certainly an interesting way to look at it though -- iirc a rough quote from the book is something like "To people in hell, it is heaven to them, and this is hell. But to us here, that is hell, and this is heaven." It's certainly an interesting look at how people think that being a Christian must be something aweful and abhorrent and could never be any fun, while Christians look at them and think the same thing about their position. It's a very good book that examines that mindset, and I think most people could enjoy its short yet entertaining storyline. --clint |
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Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
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as for hell, i jsut beleive its eternal sepperation from God, but who knows? And i definently DON'T want to find out!!!!!! ------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! P.S. I HATE 640x480!!!!!! |
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Dyreck Member Posts: 20 From: Registered: 12-17-2002 |
Right on RM, and HanClinto great description of "Great Divorce", couldn't have said it better myself. I'm sorry if I what I wrote about the book was missleading in any way, but I think it just need some exposition just like Han did. He even did it without any spoilers, good going Han! |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
I don't think anything you said was misleading -- I just wanted to clarify Lewis's position about the book so that there wasn't any misunderstanding about it. Glad you liked the mini book report.  Cheers! --clint |
Simon_Templar Member Posts: 330 From: Eau Claire, WI USA Registered: 10-25-2004 |
First on Baptism, Baptism is a requirement to be a part of the church. It is how a person is entered into membership in the body of Christ and it is *the normal* method by which God accomplishes the regeneration (new birth) of the believer. If you are not baptized, you should seek to be baptized. That being said, baptism is not a matter of legalism. That is to say, if a person CAN NOT be baptized for some reason and they die, it will not prevent them from salvation. However, we also have to really look at "can not". Many people the world over are baptized at risk of their lives because it is a public proclamation of conversion. In many parts of the world that can get you killed. "CAN NOT" be baptized must not be an issue of convenience, or preference it only works if circumstance absolutely prevents a person from being baptized. (such as an infant who dies without baptism, or the theif on the cross, or someone who is martyred before they can be baptized, etc etc). On the "levels of hell". The story you are referring to is "The Inferno" which is one third of "the Divine Comedy" by Dante (a late medieval italian author). The Divine Comedy is a magnificent piece of literature, and played a significant role in the invention of modern italian language. I highly recomend it if you want to broaden your reading horizens a bit ------------------ |
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CoolJ Member Posts: 354 From: ny Registered: 07-11-2004 |
Sorry this is off off topic (back on topic? ) Here's a verse for your game: I think you could build an entire game around this verse! or - 9 kingoms, 9 rulers, each kindom reknown for it's virtue in one of the following: love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance. But some evil has enveloped the land and these kingdoms and their rulers have lost their way. You must discover what is causing the turmoil within each kindom and help restore the lands. (Of course their is some ultimate evil behind the corruption) [This message has been edited by coolj (edited April 21, 2006).] |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
Just a word on defining what it is to be "meek", a great definition I've heard is "power under control". The idea of a large strong blacksmith's hand holding a newly hatched baby chick -- the hand could easily crush it, but it is gentle and it holds its power under control, without needing to flaunt it or oppress with its strength. I only learned that definition of "meek" recently, but perhaps it's old-news to most of you. Our pastor preached a sermon on it when he went through the Sermon on the Mount ("Blessed are the meek..."), and I thought it was so cool that it stuck with me for a while. --clint |
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Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
Well, tell me to be meek, and i would have been... shy? or something... thats a real interesting definition... ------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! P.S. I HATE 640x480!!!!!! |
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Dyreck Member Posts: 20 From: Registered: 12-17-2002 |
quote: That is a great interpretation of meek Han, I'll have to save that somewhere or make it a screen saver or something like that. That is a concept worth remembering. Kinda makes you think what Jesus must have been like to be around. God incarnate yet contained, or more like barely contained, in a human form yet he was approachable by any, rich, poor, young, old, pridefull, and those who are the lowest of the low ( I fall into the last catagory |
Jari Member Posts: 1471 From: Helsinki, Finland Registered: 03-11-2005 |
Joh 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. - 2 The same was in the beginning with God. - 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. - 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. - 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. |
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