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InspiredCode

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From: North Hills, CA, USA
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Do you dream in Perl? Can you do in an afternoon of paste and modify what many Perl coders take weeks to accomplish? Are you a prophetic fore-runner whose far sighted vision is tempered, even enabled by a seasoned practicality? (MAT10:16) Are you sold out straight ahead for the Lord Jesus Christ?

Want to team up to create software for residual income? (Shareware for licensing).

If the answer is yes to all (but perhaps the first question) then this might interest you. I am looking for one individual with whom to collaborate on a project for deferred sustained income. The project will be of benefit to all programmers, yet the ox is not muzzled. For more info please visit this (unlisted) page:

http://InspiredCode.net/perl.htm

You can reach me on the address given on that page.

Once I have found the right person the page and the address will evaporate before the spambots hit me too heavy.

Thank you.

Blessings,
Robison

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CPUFreak91

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quote:
Originally posted by InspiredCode:
Do you dream in Perl? Can you do in an afternoon of paste and modify what many Perl coders take weeks to accomplish?


I dream in Python .

What is your project?

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InspiredCode

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Did you see the description on the web page I linked?
That is a great place to start and then of course
I'd love to answer any and all questions.

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buddboy

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cool project!! i can't help you but good luck!! lol CPU the project is on the page... lol...

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InspiredCode

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Here is a listing of what my own web server offers:
http://www.ipowerweb.com/products/webhosting/index.html

In fact, I just got off the phone from my web hosting provider and the service agent was very helpful. Apparently, this is the situation according to them:

Perl is much more commonly used than Python. That also may or may not mean that it is much more commonly supported as well; but at the least it means that it is more tested on each server. PHP is great with MySQL and very common but requires a Linux server. That means that we wouldn't be able to license the robot to those who have Windows server accounts. Therefore, the lowest common denominator seems to be Perl.

My own web host uses DBI-1.50 to access MySQL from Perl. But I think that the code should automatically self configure to use whatever is available, whether a version of DBI or even the older mSQL or mySQL interfaces to get at the MySQL. Hopefully the software will be written such that when it first runs it goes off to "play the guitar and find itself", then writes an ini file that will determine all of its operation on that server from then on.

The Python might be better, but I am most concerned about our being able to provide the needed action for everyone.

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CoolJ

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quote:
Originally posted by InspiredCode:
PHP is great with MySQL and very common but requires a Linux server. That means that we wouldn't be able to license the robot to those who have Windows server accounts. Therefore, the lowest common denominator seems to be Perl.


Hi, so you can keep your options as broad possible- windows servers happily support PHP (MySQL too) as long they are setup for PHP support.

for example: I used to have a site on Catalog.com and they supported PHP on their windows server hosting plans.

You might want to research if the majority of Windows Servers are set up for PHP support if you don't find a perl developer that suits your needs.

Anyway, I don't know perl or enough PHP to be of any use but good luck!!

CPUFreak91

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PHP is great with MySQL and very common but requires a Linux server. That means that we wouldn't be able to license the robot to those who have Windows server accounts. Therefore, the lowest common denominator seems to be Perl.

Actually (not trying to get into a flame war here or anything ) PHP and MySQL do not require Linux servers! (Here I am thinking they did too!)

But, yes, you have a point. In your case it's easier to use Perl.

Very interesting robot idea you have. Hope you get a programmer!

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InspiredCode

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Oh, understood no flame meant, and certainly none taken. I confessed my ignorance when I mentioned that I asked my web hosting provider about all this. I appreciate your good wishes. I'm sure God will provide. It might be in the 95th chapter of first confusions: "God helps those who help others to help themselves to His help, even if His help is through the help of others helping us to help everyone including ourselves in the process". (I hope that helps).

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InspiredCode

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Well, I just checked with an informative fellow at ValueWeb.

According to him, although many Windows 2003 servers do and the dot net servers will, older BSD servers don't support PHP and Win2000 servers most often are not set up to support PHP. Was he wrong about that?
That means that a good 30 percent of the market would not be able to use the robot if the web end were in PHP.

But if I don't get any Perl wiz calling me then I would be happy with the 70 percent market for the PHP version, especially since those who use the tobot could always migrate to a more friendly server for less money than they are paying now in most cases. Therefore as it would turn out, 70 to 85 percent of something is far better than 100 percent of nothing.

So to make a long story short, I am also interested in any interest on the PHP end. After a suitable time I will make a decision based upon what and who is available.

Anybody interested on the PHP end?

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CPUFreak91

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Perl vs. Python! :-p
(Depends on the part of the web)

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D-SIPL

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Eric Raymond often talks about the time he found Python. He re-wrote a 10,000 line Perl program in like 1000 lines with Python.

Don't get me wrong Perl has it's uses, but Python seems to fit my needs perfectly.

Apache, PHP, MySQL can all be run off of a Windows Server. But they would never match my freshly compiled, nicely configured, streamlined Apache, PHP, MySQL setup on my box
When installing a server at home, I usually do a fresh install of Slackware with the 2.4.32 kernel. Then remove Apache, MySQL and PHP and compile them again from source (always check the configuration options!).

Meh best not diverse from the topic...

--D-SIPL

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InspiredCode

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I just checked with 8 out of the 10 top web hosts (according to a couple of sites) and all but one support Perl, PHP and Python.

Here is the list:

iPowerWeb: Perl, PHP, Python
ValueWeb: Perl, PHP, Python
Gate: Perl, PHP, NOT Python
LunarPages: Perl, PHP, Python
NexPoint: Perl, PHP, Python
Aplus: Perl, PHP, Python
CHIhost: Perl, PHP, Python
HostGator: Perl, PHP, Python

Hey CPU, let's cook this thing in Python!

Later we can glean the rest of the market using Perthon.
(perthon.sourceforge.net to convert to Perl)

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InspiredCode

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I did not mean just CPU at this point; he seemed most interested at the time.

The invitation stays open to anyone until someone commits.

I am keeping an open mind here.

Anyone at all interested in this, doing it in Python?

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CPUFreak91

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quote:
Originally posted by InspiredCode:
I did not mean just CPU at this point; he seemed most interested at the time.

The invitation stays open to anyone until someone commits.

I am keeping an open mind here.

Anyone at all interested in this, doing it in Python?


Well, you got me interested, lemme think it over and reread your page a few times.

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CoolJ

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also..at least down the road..you might want to consider something other than VB for client app. this might also limit you only ppl with Windows home machines.

Python or even C# might be a solution here as well. Also, you might look into SOAP as your method of communication. This might facilitate firewalls and setup and I think most languages provided libs for its support.

InspiredCode

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My choice of Visual Studio 6 (NOT .net) is because .net is too easily decompiled, and because Visual Studio exes can be locked up with a shareware mechanism, which is the whole point of this endeavor. Just about every elite person still has at least one windoze box sitting around somewhere, although they might not admit it. Let that one be the one they use for this. Also, I am creating an activeX exe that they can instantiate as an object from anything that talks com. The fact that it is VB is convenient for me from a rapid development point of view, yet irrelevant to customers. If they prefer VC++ they can still instantiate my activeX exe. In fact, I am also planning an activeX exe that programmers can include with their own software products that will make it a snap to integrate robot support into their software, making it easier for their own customers to go through the whole licensing process. It will also have well documented calls they can make to get things done in that. Even so, I will not get my fingernails dirty with their own licence code generation algorithms; that will have to be originally theirs on their end. But I will provide the mechanisms to easily accomodate those codes.

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c00ler
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Hi
I'm using perl since 1999 so maybe i can help you.
I can convert you VB script into perl script

Regards

InspiredCode

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Sounds interesting.

I saw on source forge two things that caught my eye.
One of them was py2perl and the other vb2py.
I thought I might start with vb and use vb2py to convert it to python,
then after testing and debugging it in python, use py2perl to convert
it to perl.

At the moment I have been focusing on a build of my display software that such a robot sells. I will be presenting a first fruits beta of that to my home church this sunday.

Then comes the push to do the robot, along with the push to wrap up my display software into the official public release download.

Although I was almost resigned to the idea of having to do the robot all myself, I would love to team up with someone to get there faster.

I have some concepts though for how the robot will want to go, but they are in the form of general ideas and pseudocode, rather than VB.

I would like to discuss what needs to happen in the robot, then have each of us build our repective parts, yours in perl and mine as an activeX.

That way we can accomplish the unique things (such as my collect and response protocol) while in other things we would use some preexisting methods rather than reinventing the wheel, such as, for instance, shopping cart password rescuing and other standard things of the like.

You can reach me at perl@inspiredcode.net and I can write to you from my own more stable email.

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Sounds intersting, however, i dream in B3d, and a little C++ on the side..

best of luck to you guys!

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