CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Yo all, is there a site where i can download a "book" for learning Python? Is there any compiler or interpreter for Linux? Any Last but not least: |
D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Red Hat ewwww... can't stand Red Hat. all the tools you need for Python are on the python site. IDLE is probably my fave IDE, you can get the Red Hat RPM off the site. Not sure what the address is though, just do a search on Google. --D-SIPL ------------------ |
CapnStank Member Posts: 214 From: Sask, Canada Registered: 12-16-2004 |
Yeah I definately learned python on IDLE. Go to python.org and go to they're non-programmer tutorials. Be warned though python.net is like startrek and python.com is porn (or so my pals and I believe since its deemed "Inappropreate" by our school server) ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Thanks. Will try. |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
On a side note, i would try and get away from Red Hat. I use Slackware and Gentoo (Gentoo more so now) and find them so much better, plus they use the proper LFS unlike Red Hat. --D-SIPL ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Gentoo. Ok. Once i get a good place maybe i'll download it. Do you know what Mandrake is like. I was told "its awesome". [This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited February 06, 2005).] |
Klumsy Administrator Posts: 1061 From: Port Angeles, WA, USA Registered: 10-25-2001 |
mandrake will give you a high - literally ------------------ |
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
is it like most highs that are just temporary distortions of reality?  ...i'm tyring to get linux running on a very unstable(are all slot a's this bad?) 600mhz athlon machine. eventually i want to get my wife a computer with windows on it, but i can't really afford $99.99 + s/h everytime i get a computer together(i run into a lot of free/cheap computers/parts). ------------------ www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Mandrake is pretty good for using Linux for the first time. But if you really want to learn some Linux commands and get into how it works then i would install Gentoo, it will take you the good part of a day but it's worth it. Download the stage2 tarball when installing it. From then on if you want to update gentoo you just load up a shell and type emerge sync If you wanted to install IDLE you would type: emerge IDLE Brilliant! No more worrying about dependancies!! --D-SIPL ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
I think I will. Since you obviously know alot about it. I'll just post a question when I have a problem (if u don't mind answering them) |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
PS. Does anyone of you use Fire Fox for Windows? |
outcast Member Posts: 40 From: Guatemala City, Guatemala Registered: 12-08-2004 |
Dude anything to get away from crappie IE is good. Fire Fox or Safari depending on what OS your using. Jeff ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
I know how crappy IE is! Microsoft should drop it and make a new browser, or include FireFox My Prob is that fire fox wont load on its own. I have to open a saved page on my HD to get ti to load. [This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited February 07, 2005).] |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Load up Firefox and go to Tools | options | general It will say something along the lines of Default Browser with a button which says Check Now. Click that and set it as your default browser. Stick a Firefox shortcut on your desktop as well. Hope that helped. No worries about the Linux questions, fire away. --D-SIPL ------------------ |
Wacko4X Member Posts: 92 From: Bellvue, WA, USA Registered: 08-21-2002 |
I used to use FireFox a lot more (woot! opensource!) but I've found it to be significantly slower than IE (anyone know why?). Not to mention that I switched to FireFox for tabbed browsing but now that IE offers that as an add-on my support is SLOWLY lessening for FireFox. Sure there are plenty of people attacking IE but it is certainly more secure than FireFox, its faster, and still most websites are tested with at least IE. |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
quote: Yeh but the amount of times I have been on an IE browser which has been hijacked by some search/marketing company. My Firefox has never been hijacked (my winblows box) also pop-up blocking is always a bonus. Maybe a slight difference in performance but not huge. Firefox has at least given MS a kick. They dominated the browser market pretty much and with no-one to really contend with they just let it slip and focused on other stuff. At least Firefox has made them wake up and do something about it. --D-SIPL ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
I got IDLE. It's a heck of a lot easier than C and C++ (I get a bunch of weird errors) plus i don't understan anything about voids and ints and other stuff. (Maybe its because i have Visual C++)  |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
there are some tools for windows in fire fox to load pages faster. But it only works for vesrion 0.8  |
HeardTheWord Member Posts: 224 From: Des Moines, IA Registered: 08-16-2004 |
quote: I found a fix for FireFox that makes pages load faster. Type about:config in the address bar and press enter. Here are a list of preferences to change: Then right click and choose New->Integer. This should speed up FireFox's page loading considerably. [This message has been edited by HeardTheWord (edited February 08, 2005).] |
mellonamin Member Posts: 119 From: Maryville, TN, United States Registered: 11-16-2004 |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Gentoo: I got a question D-SPIL whats the small verion like (www.linuxiso.org) its 85 MBs. Is there any advangate/disadvantage to the small version? ------------------ [This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited February 08, 2005).] |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Why do I get the three greater than signs in Python is that where i can begin programming? And what's better in Python than Visual C++? ------------------ [This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited February 08, 2005).] |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
quote: Thats the Gentoo live cd i think. It's an iso so it does unpack larger when you burn it to cd. Go here and download from one of the mirrors. Burn it onto cd. Boot the computer you want to install gentoo on (make sure cd is primary boot) and when the console has loaded make 3 partitions for /boot / and swap. Make sure your swap partition is around the size of your RAM in mb and is set to 82 which is Linux Swap (i think). Once partitioned (use fdisk if possible though you may find cfdisk a lot easier) mount /dev/hda1 (boot) /dev/hda2 (swap) and /dev/hda3 (/ root). Then download the stage 2 tarball using links. Type: links2 www.gentoo.org They have pretty good instructions on the site if i remember, so don't be overwhelmed with the above.
quote: Thats where you run commands after >>> click file | new This will open up the IDE. Start coding from there. Python is OOP but with a basic easier syntax and commands imo. Plus it's cross platformable so whatever you write in windows will run in Linux, Mac etc as long as they have python installed on their computer. Hope this helps. --D-SIPL ------------------ |
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outcast Member Posts: 40 From: Guatemala City, Guatemala Registered: 12-08-2004 |
Or when you compile you can compile with an interpreter built in so they don't even need to have any of the python front end tools installed. Jeff ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: Thats where you run commands after >>> click file | new This will open up the IDE. Start coding from there. Python is OOP but with a basic easier syntax and commands imo. Plus it's cross platformable so whatever you write in windows will run in Linux, Mac etc as long as they have python installed on their computer. [/QUOTE]
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
What do you mean a GUI version of Python? Do you mean a graphical IDE? or a GUI builder, for building UI's? You need to download the install live cd iso from that link i gave you (pick any mirror). Then open your cd writing software and select burn iso then burn. --D-SIPL ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: yeah Graphical IDE my start menu entry (windows) say Python (GUI) What does the GUI builder do? ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
My First Python program (took me 1 hour to learn and 3 minutes to write) C++ (still don't know how to do the things I've just done) check it out: www.troychurchofchrist.org/guatemala/js/CCN/index.html hope it works, if not, PM me ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
the link you gave me to gentoo: I've already tried downloading it. But i get tons of files in the distribution folder (HTTPS) do i download all of them? ------------------ |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
The link you gave doesn't work. I would be interested to see how your getting on. To get Gentoo follow This Link and select the install-x86-minimal-2004.3-r1.iso A pretty good GUI builder is Boa Constructor. You may wanna give that a go. --D-SIPL ------------------ [This message has been edited by D-SIPL (edited February 10, 2005).] |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Ok. Lemme figure out why. ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Ok i got it working now. ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
http://www.troychurchofchrist.org/guatemala/js/CCN/ just to be safe ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
So is there a graphical IDLE (or is that IDE) for linux. Yo, D-SIPL, since i use pay-by-the-minute dial up and the internet cafe won't let me download more than 20 MB at a time, gentoo donloads will be halted for a while. If you mean keep you "posted" on Python, sure. I can do that ------------------ |
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