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Megan's Law? – Tallbill

TallBill

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From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: 11-22-2002
This story tells of what might be an ill-conceived law, written in haste, in order to salve the emotional distress of the parents of a suicide. If the story is accurate, however, the new law also outlaws Christian witnessing, because it would make it illegal to be the instrument through which another experiences substantial emotional distress. How many of us went through just such distress over our own sin as part of the miracle of Christian rebirth?

I have contacted them through their website with just these concerns. I hope others here will join me in expressing these concerns.

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CPUFreak91

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quote:
Originally posted by Tallbill:
If the story is accurate, however, the new law also outlaws Christian witnessing, because it would make it illegal to be the instrument through which another experiences substantial emotional distress.

How do you figure that? I'm sure people can accuse witnessing Christians of harassing them but it probably could be avoided to some extent.

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JeTSpice
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When people witness, they should never harass. There's a difference between being "bold" as the Bible says, and causing emotional distress.

However, the Bible also says that the spirit of the world hates the Word. We should expect people to feel threatened by us, because we carry the message of Christ.

When laws are passed that limit what people can and can't say, those laws need to be carefully crafted so as not to put limits on the spreading of the Gospel.

That said, many Christians (myself included) see the end of the world as marked by a one-world government which outlaws Christianity, and see "Megan's Law" as a pre-cursor to such a government.

The Levitical laws would most-likely hold the woman who "posed" as a boyfriend accountable for the death of the girl, but not imprison her, or put her to death. Under the Levitical laws, the family of the deceased girl would receive financial compensation from the woman posing as a boyfriend. The woman posing as a boyfriend would also have to make a guilt offering (give an animal to a priest to sacrifice.) She would not be put to death because her intention was not to harm the girl, just to deceive her to get information out of her. However, she might be stoned to death or driven from the camp for posing as a man.

Under the laws of the U.S., the family of the dead girl has the right to sue the woman who expediated their daughter's suicide. But passing a law that no one can harrass anyone is unrealistic.

blendenzo

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From: MI, USA
Registered: 11-25-2007
This is from the article:
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A state lawmaker has questioned how state law could be altered without running afoul of First Amendment issues.
Just because the city passed a law doesn't mean it holds any weight. The Constitution is the highest law of the United States, and the states are bound to uphold it. The Constitution grants several "inalienable" rights which the legislature cannot restrict. One of these is the freedom of speech.

So if state lawmakers are questioning the constitutionality of the issue, then it suggests that the law may not be legally strong. The real question is, will any high court uphold such a law as constitutional? It depends on how it is worded. There are laws against slander, libel, and defamation of character, but none of those violate our freedom of speech. They simply impose consequences for speech that causes damage and infringes on another person's right to the pursuit of happiness. Freedom of speech is not the same as freedom from consequence.

All that said, I think "substantial emotional distress" is not really quantifiable, and it would be rather difficult to prove it in any case but a suicide clearly related to harassment.

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TallBill

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From: St. Louis, MO
Registered: 11-22-2002
quote:
Originally posted by CPUFreak91:
How do you figure that? I'm sure people can accuse witnessing Christians of harassing them but it probably could be avoided to some extent.

When I am witnessing online, I constantly get attacked and accused—usually by people that I am not even addressing. This says—at one and the same time—that I am not harassing them (since I am not even addressing them), and that they are experiencing substantial emotional distress (since they are even being driven to accuse someone who wasn't even talking to them). Megan's Law gives those accusers an avenue through which they might even incarcerate someone like me.

While such things are to be expected in the Christian life, the Bible does not say that we are not to make an effort to block such tactics if such blocking is legally available to us. Something needs to be done about this law before someone gets wrongly incarcerated.

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Charles Haddon Spurgeon, from the pamphlet, “Effective Prayer”

supercoder

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This reminds me of a totally unrelated incident. A girl was driving her car and using an onramp to I-285 that had been shortened due to construction. She was on her cell phone, got in to an accident, crashed and died. The paper the next day was all over the fact of how dangerous that section of interstate was, but only one casual line about her being on her cell phone at the time of the accident.

Of course I'm thinking what the heck is she doing on her cell phone entering a busy and potentially dangerous section of interstate!

Likewise, why does a 13 yr old need a myspace account and why would it be acceptable for her to be talking with a 16 yr old boy online who might 'like' her?

I'm not defending the mom down the street either, I think her twisted game was disgusting.

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