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zookey

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8590308394895590930&q=Canon+Rock

check it out--that is the very definition of beuatiful IMO!

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ArchAngel

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used to be my myspace profile song. haha.

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zookey

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the rock remix?

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ArchAngel

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of course.

courtesy of JerryC, taiwanese guitarist extraordinaire

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zookey

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yeah that is actually JerryC in that video--did you know he has his own band now?

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ArchAngel

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that I didn't.

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TallBill

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Being a lover of the Canon and Gigue in D by Pachelbel, I left for work this morning while the video was still downloading (dial-up, you know), so I haven't seen the whole thing, but I do have a question: When he held up his outer fingers with the middle ones bent down, then slightly bent the outer ones as well it looked like some sort of "hip" signal. What does that signal mean?

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zookey

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Depends on who you ask---some people say it means 'Rock On' while others (mostly shock rockers trying to get attention) claim it can show support for Satan--although you have to keep the two fingers straight to support Satan as opposed to angled out--so he was doing it to say 'Rock On'---although, a cooler way is to have your thumb out as well as the 2 fingers---that means 'I LOve You' in sign language and some people do that too.

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Wow.

After hearing that, I feel so ashamed of my guitar skills.

Wow.

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ArchAngel

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I can play worship songs on my guitar.

G - D - E - C. (x20)

bam. none of those fancy whatsits needed.

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kenman

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Okay, Maybe a little better than I play. Here's my latest rant

http://www.art.twobrotherssoftware.com/music/petergunn.mp3

Spy Hunter rocks!

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quote:
Originally posted by zookey:
yeah that is actually JerryC in that video--did you know he has his own band now?


And what's the name of his band?

zookey

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JerryC and the C Band www.jerryc.tw
Nice song dude with the spyhunter theme!

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Mmm. That's good, although I prefer orchestral versions (I'm a big Violin and Cello fan). Classical music will never die.

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MastaLlama

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KENMAN ROCKS! WOOOO!!!!!!

* dives off the stage *

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Hmm, reminds me of the album "Concerto Suite for Electric Guitar and Orchestra in E Flat Minor Op. 1" by Yngwie Malmsteen.

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MastaLlama

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alright...just for you guys, I did this: Under The Blood on MySpace

the recording on there is one of the songs we play and how we play it, but I recorded all the parts myself (and added a little rock organ, 2nd guitar, extra bass stuff). \m/ \m/

At a live show the lead guitar you hear is what I'd normally play on the bass, instead of the bluesy arpeggios. (Oh if only I had 6 of me, we'd rock! but then I wouldn't have any friends but myself, and getting into arguments with me, no matter what I win! but i'd always lose too...hrm...)

As of Saturday I got my recording studio about 95% setup now !!!!!

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InsanePoet

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quote:
Originally posted by CPUFreak91:
Mmm. That's good, although I prefer orchestral versions (I'm a big Violin and Cello fan). Classical music will never die.


Metal will never die!

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Classical metal is awesome isn't it?

Did he have trouble at the beginning of the song, or is that just the way its supposed to sound? I thought it was slightly off until it sped up, but it may just be me.

I need to practice more.. I recently got a B.C. Rich Warlock, and I'm looking into a Marshall tube stack.

I think I looked for some tablature for this song, but was unsuccessful for some reason..

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kenman

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Classical Metal is pretty cool Goop. Not a fan of the BC rich guitars. I have found them to be to pokey and have injured other bandmates or fans while playing them. They should come with point guards. Just gimme my Ibanez Jem 7v, and we can be okay.

@Mastalamma, how about an update on the studio? How many wires do you have set up!

@Marshall Tube Stack? Check out the Carvin Vai series for killer sustain and clean tone all out of one amp.

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Actually thats why I don't like some of the Gibson guitars as much as Jackson and Ibanez copies. They look too round for my tastes. (Flying V, Explorer ..) You can always get a Mockingbird and have the powerful B.C. Rich sound, without the danger of stabbing a band member to death

I was actually thinking of getting the TSL100. That thing has tone leaking out its ears! (Or it would if it had ears)
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I guess I'm just a Marshal guy =p

MastaLlama

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quote:
@Mastalamma, how about an update on the studio? How many wires do you have set up!

Number of wires? I can't even begin to count 'em! I'll see about taking some pics and posting them on here once I get things completely done. I still need to finish cleaning out the garage and get some carpeting and... and... and... hee hee.

I'm workin' on a new song that I haven't released yet...but...just for you (and nevermind the naming convention): http://www.jeremysouthard.org/UTB/metal_3c4.mp3 - again, midi sequencing done by me, guitar done by me, sucky guitar solo done by me

kenman

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I am currently working on 3 odd meter tunes

a 7/8 ballad
a 5/4 jazz a
and
a 9/8 whatever it's going to sound like

I think I'll call my next CD Odd Meter and get a picture of a Parking Meter and turn it into a guitar neck

MastaLlama

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how are you counting your 7/8? I wrote one once, going with the counting school of (1 e & a) mine was counted 1 & & 2 & 3 & with each of the 7...8ths equal, of course. I played a jazz song once in college that was 1 & 2 & & 3 &...weird...
kenman

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You can listen here

http://www.gckingoftheblues.com/profile/KenBjammen

Ashley's tune is my first take at the 7/8 ♫♫♫♫♫

Just so you know I have never counted my music

The "father's day" stuff was the 5/4 blues

9/8 would be 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3

SSquared

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Neat to hear your guy's stuff.

Ashley's Tune seemed more like 7/4 (7 quarter notes). I could not find the triplet.

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Ken: I thought it sounded good, but it might add a bit of color if you were to do a trill in your songs rather than bouncing on the fretboard. Thats just my opinion though.. Just from listening to Vai and Satriani.. They tend to do that a lot.
MastaLlama

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Hey Ken, all sounds great!! I agree S^2, Ashley's Tune is more of a 7/4 and then the Father's Day is more of a 5/8 (1 & & 2 &) according to what the drums and bass are doin'...but it's all theory and semantics! what really matter is you're enjoying your music and others are too!
MastaLlama

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Hey Ken, what does your pedal board consist of?
kenman

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My pedal board.

*takes a deep breath

For recording

Boss SD-2
Boss PW-1
Boss Flanger
Boss Phaser
Boss GT-6

Assorted Computer effects, I tried programming a couple but that is more funny. Then recording audigy 2 platinum digitial in sound card to cakewalk software, asorted plug ins.

Live

Zakk Wylde Crybaby
Boss DS-1 Distortion
Boss BD-2 Blues Driver
Visual Sound Jekyl and Hyde
Morley Volume
Boss Tuner
Visual Sound H20
Boss CE-5 chorus
Boss DD-3 digital Delay

Amp Fender Deville 4x10

Guitars
Ibanez Jem 7v
Ibanes RG 1570 hotrodded with EMG 81/85 set
Gibson Les Paul Studio modded with all gold hardware
Fender HSS strat
Fender Telecaster
Epiphone Dot
Scheter 12 string semi hollow body electric
Ibanez EP-9 acoustic

I have other effects that I do not use

kenman

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In regards to the differnece between 5/4 and 5/8 I know there really is a true difference, but that's what I set up the cakewalk session drummer in, so I added the bass to what was already present in the drums. I have never counted when I play, I play by feel. The amount of music I can read is very limited, both my kids read music better than I do. What I do know is how to put stuff together. (IMHO)
MastaLlama

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wow...that's all I can say, wow! Did you just now go and take that pic? That's a freakin' sweet setup! I really want a baby grand in my home but I don't have the room or funds. My parents have an old upright that is technically mine, but again...no room.
MastaLlama

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quote:
Originally posted by kenman:
In regards to the differnece between 5/4 and 5/8 I know there really is a true difference, but that's what I set up the cakewalk session drummer in, so I added the bass to what was already present in the drums. I have never counted when I play, I play by feel. The amount of music I can read is very limited, both my kids read music better than I do. What I do know is how to put stuff together. (IMHO)

And you do it very, very well!!!! \m/

kenman

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I took that picture last week to show someone else some of the stuff. That is a conservatory grand that I picked up for next to nothing (Yes I beleive that God blesses those who bless others) A chuch traded it in on a Yamaha Concert Grand, and the salesman was just looking it over, so we got it for 1/3 of the used price that it would have been on the floor.

I paid more for the LP and the JEM than I did the grand.

so for the coders in us

LP+JEM<GRAND PIANO

SSquared

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I think your equation is backwards.

Regarding the 5/4 thing: I had a feeling you probably set your time signature in software or whatever as 7/8 and just went with it.

One of my favorite electronic music artists, Vangelis, can't read a bit of music. But he is a phenomenal creator and writer.

We've wanted to get a grand for years. Looking for good deals, but they are usually taken by the time we call. But as a synthman, I have a thing about paying so much for ONE sound when I can get hundreds of different piano sounds for much less. For some reason, my wife doesn't seem to care. She much prefers the real thing. I do have to agree, though, in the sense it's better for the kids to learn on a real piano.

MastaLlama

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@Ken

BTW...nice pants!

kenman

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@ Sē , Cakewalk has a session drummer that you just click on what you want, i.e. time signature. To be totally honest, I just pulled up the 1/8th note or whatever and put it where I thought the beat was. It's like crazy when stuff come out good, and it's like not too abnormal when not. Here the 5/4 blues with the midi drummer screen shot

MastaLlama

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Cakewalk rocks! I used it for years (from version 2.5 in the mid-late 90s to version "Pro Audio 9") and recently went the way of a Mac-mini and GarageBand (actually in the garage). There's sooo many different versions out now http://www.musiciansfriend.com/rec/navigation/cakewalk-music-production-software-digital-synthesizers?N=100001+201124 that I'm not sure I could ever decide which to use!

MastaLlama

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@Ken - You have a PM!!!!!
kenman

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@mastallama, You rocketh!
MastaLlama

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@Ken - back atcha! (we really need a better way to check for PMs, maybe I'll write a little program for it until the new CCN comes out)
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@everyone

For those days you cant stand your garlic and ricecakes

http://www.art.twobrotherssoftware.com/music/garlicricecake.mp3

Enjoy!

samw3

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Hey, I really like this one.. Except that when I hear it, it just aches to be a bit faster. like 20% faster (WMP lets your kick up the speed. it sounds a lot nicer at 1.2x) .. what bpm is it at?

Anyways.. Great tune!

God Bless!

EDIT: Maybe someone should start a thread like the model thread for tune/sfx critiques.

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goop2

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It could use some salt, but I thought it was pretty good

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MastaLlama

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Well, being as midnight started July 10th, my wife gave me my birthday guitar at 12:01 AM this morning!

WOOO!!!!

goop2

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Nice! How about some specs?

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kenman

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Washburn 7 string H/H config

7 strings are something I have not really tried much. If I got one I would want the ibanez universe 7 string with the killer FR trem system. Still a killer axe dude!

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MastaLlama

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Specs (un-official) : 7 strings, awesome tone, perfect action, sounds great even through my little practice amp (i haven't hooked it into my "small venue" PA yet to blast the neighbors from 3 streets away). The lows are low but clear, the mids and highs are balanced nicely. It's the best sounding guitar I have! Clean it sounds amazing, then get's better with my Yngvie overdrive pedal! Throw on the DS-1 and it's beautiful!

Here's a review from http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/washburn/wg587/index.html

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Features: Finally a 7 string guitar in your price range, that's what I thought. And picked this guitar up for $180. The guitar has Washburn pro on the plate covering the bolts on the back of the body, but it has made in china on the back of the neck. It is a very low priced 7 string, most likely alder or basswood becasue it's a cheap guitar. 24 med. jumbo frets on a bolt on neck. 2 hot humbuckers, not the best sounding when clean but damn good when dirty. 7 Grover tuners and a HardTail bridge, volume and tone knob, 3 way pickup selector. I got it in metallic grey, the finish was overall good, there were a few places in the lower and upper horns where it was a little bit rough but no big deal. It's meant to be played not looked at. It doesnt't have a locking tremolo so. // 8

Sound: I play a lot of prog, thrash, heavy metal, shred, everything really on this guitar. It usually gives me a desired tone whenever I play with it and it meets my needs. I use it with a Mesa Boogie F-100, Fender Twin Reverb, and have used it on a Peavey XXX, and Crate FXT-65, this guitar had a good clean sound until I replaced the bridge pickup with an Invader, now the bridge sounds thin but the neck has an entremely full sound. It has quite a lot of feedback, that's my biggest grip with this amp, but with a noise supressor I have no problems with it. If it had Ibanez on the headstock this guitar could be sold for $300. // 7

Action, Fit & Finish: Out of the box this guitar had very crappy strings, I replaced them and cleaned all the waxy coating off of this guitar. After I put the new strings on and had to raise the action because I use a very heavy set. I raised the pickups as much as possible before they touch the strings to get the highest output possible. The paint was very nice, a few rough spots, no bigger than this circle O so and I don't find that a big deal at all. The 17-24 frets aren't very smooth, I can still bend on them but there is just a gritty feel to it. Everything on this guitar is good quality, the nut, excellent tuners (I love Grover), and the guitar as a whole is definatly worth the money, but I really want something with a locking trem. // 9

Reliability & Durability: I've played with this guitar live probably 20+ times, I only had trouble with it once and that was when the input jack came loose. I tightened it up and put a little super glue on it and it's been fine since. The strap buttons are very solid, but it being an RG shaped guitar you can't really put straplocks on the upper horn due to the placement of the button and the length of the screws. After I installed the Seymour Duncan invador the 3 way selector does cut out my signal if I jiggle it but that's my problem not washburns. It's a very well built guitar despite the low price. // 10

Impression: I play everything but jazz and country with this guitar. I'd play those if I had the knowlege in those genres. The only thing this guitar is lacking IMO is a locking trem. This guitar give me the tone I want when paired up with any half decent amp. The low price of this guitar is amazing, the pics of it on the site didn't do justice, I would have bought a red one if I knew it didn't look Pink as it does on music123. If this guitar was stolen, I'd be very upset until I finished saving up for a UV-777 or Ibanez 1527. At the time I bought this guitar I was comparing it to the Agile 7 string, Ibanez's $350 7 string sorry I don't know the exact name. I chose this one because of the low price and haven't regretted it at all. Overall this is a great guitar for the price, just make sure you are sure you don't mind a guitar without a trem. // 9