RA Games is already taken by somebody, so I have to change the name and make a new logo. I reserved the name, cougarinteractive.com, and will be changing the site in the coming months.

Basically, the new game is for NON-Christians and not for Christians, okay? Is that okay? It has JOHN 3:16 and others in it. It is really made for the un-saved. Christians don't need JOHN 3:16. The lost need it.

QUESTION:
Does this new logo below offend you?

I would like to know.
I just took the funniest game character and made a company logo out of him.

What do you think? Be honest. I know, some of you might be upset?
But, how upset I do not know yet...

Thanks,
Randall...

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God said to Noah, "The end of all living beings has come before me, for because of them the earth is filled with violence. I will destroy them along with the earth.
Genesis 6:13

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…does this mean Christians are not allowed to play your games??
Cuz I like pirates… and there were Christian pirates and Privateers. Pirate history is very interesting.

Pirates > Ninjas
And if you noticed, my current avatar isn't very Ninjaish...

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Actually, I have been talking with God about it. A lot actually and for many months.
I feel that God has told me that He wants to have FUN with you and FUN with everybody with this thing. <I talk with Him>

Yes, God wants to have FUN and God wants to communicate His great love to you and to everybody down here.

Yes, Christians can play it, but I think some will slam me for being "Un-Godly", so I need to gauge your reaction to it.

I'm happy if you are not offended, but I worry about those that will and also what is the percentage???

Is anyone offended?
If not too many, then that is the new company and new logo.

Thanks and God bless you guys.
I'm just trying to figure out how many is offended?

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God said to Noah, "The end of all living beings has come before me, for because of them the earth is filled with violence. I will destroy them along with the earth.
Genesis 6:13

I do think you should get someone to draw it out for you professionally however. That'd add some additional class to your games and site.

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you should try having it with a cel shaded effect ( check out the Ogre 3D website to see what i mean)

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Originally posted by RA Games:
Christians don't need JOHN 3:16. The lost need it.

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I would disagree. Christians do need all of scripture. Reviewing the essentials of the Gospel daily is an important part of the Christian walk. John 3:16 is not the entire Gospel though.

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Originally posted by Faith_Warrior:

Pirates > Ninjas
And if you noticed, my current avatar isn't very Ninjaish...

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LMAO---you are typing that as the ask-a-ninja is outside your window just waiting for the right time........

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I do think you should get someone to draw it out for you professionally however. That'd add some additional class to your games and site.

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Is there anybody that "draws" on this site?

Btw, Cain the Cougar says " SHIVER ME TIMBERS! "

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God said to Noah, "The end of all living beings has come before me, for because of them the earth is filled with violence. I will destroy them along with the earth.
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~~~boogie woogie woogie~~~
Jesus didn't come to save the saints.

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LMAO---you are typing that as the ask-a-ninja is outside your window just waiting for the right time........

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Ninja at my window? That’s ok, I have a Honda on my driveway just lookin’ for a fight

AYE MATE, DON'T BE A LAND LUBBER!

HAHA!

Btw, the reason for this thread was that a good senior brother here, suggested that I post the LOGO idea on a forum,
and also said that I should not be "Glorifying" pirates.

So, that is why I posted it. Oh well that's cool...

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Originally posted by RA Games:
Hi Friends,

Actually, I have been talking with God about it. A lot actually and for many months.
I feel that God has told me that He wants to have FUN with you and FUN with everybody with this thing. <I talk with Him>

Yes, God wants to have FUN and God wants to communicate His great love to you and to everybody down here.

Yes, Christians can play it, but I think some will slam me for being "Un-Godly", so I need to gauge your reaction to it.

I'm happy if you are not offended, but I worry about those that will and also what is the percentage???

Is anyone offended?
If not too many, then that is the new company and new logo.

Thanks and God bless you guys.
I'm just trying to figure out how many is offended?

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...I feel that God has told me that He wants to have FUN with you and FUN with everybody with this thing.

Have you tested this against scripture?

...Yes, God wants to have FUN and God wants to communicate His great love to you and to everybody down here.

What is God's great love?

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"I find myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world!"
-C. S. Lewis

Angel is a pretty good artist, here's his writing site, his email is at the bottom. You should drop him an email and see if he'd be interested and what his rates are.

www.vailion.com

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These verses are spoken by God in the game.

string rev32 = "REVELATION 3:20\n\nBehold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door,\n\nI will come in to him and eat with him, and he with Me.";

string 1john4= "1 JOHN 4:8\n\nAnyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.";

string john3 = "JOHN 3:16\n\nFor God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son,\n\nthat whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.";
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But there are judgement verses as well.

Also, one in Revelation that is at the link below.
www.noahsadventures.com/downloads/godany3.wav

The animated JOLLY ROGERS speaks that one and others.

Yes, God talks in my games, even in the Jolly Rogers. lol
If God spoke through a dumb donkey in the OT, then he can speak through anything, amen?

So far, everyone that has played it, likes it.
Either Christian or non-Christian. It's the game-play and creativity I think? My multiplayer programmer guy says it's most fun he's ever played and he's a MOD at the 3Dgamestudio site. I don't know if he's even a Christian. Don't know actually.

Cain is only one of 8 characters and is the only pirate kitty.

I'll e-mail Angel.

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Genesis 6:13

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Originally posted by insanepoet:
...I feel that God has told me that He wants to have FUN with you and FUN with everybody with this thing.

Have you tested this against scripture?

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Yes, the radical concept that games should be fun really needs a deep theological study. Perhaps we should bow our heads and pray for guidance on this very complicated issue.

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Originally posted by Mack:
I don't think it's really glorifying pirates, but if you wanted to be on the safe side you could probably just take the skull and crossbones off and away you go.

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Yes, lets not glorify… Hollywood! Haha Hollywood pirates sux.

For us Americans, we owe a great debt of gratitude to historical Pirates in regards to the formation and defense of our Republic. If we had no Pirates to fight for us, we could quite possibly still be under the yoke of the king. Also, Pirates invented democracy of which we have now a Democratic Republic here.

Then there were of course the Templar Pirates (i.e. Knights Templars), they were those that escaped the Roman Catholic Church upon their persecution to death (where we get Friday the 13th) because they owned the banks. But the fleet escaped and they carried out attacks on the enemy fleets (i.e. Vatican) under the jolie rouge (flag) -red representing the blood of Christ, skull representing Golgotha and crossed bones for the cross. Though I will note, I don’t buy the Masons story in regards to later accounts of the lost fleet.

So am I glorifying Pirates? Some maybe, but historically speaking having had studied the issue to some historical extent.

Heh, I find it also interesting that Bartholomew Roberts (though not a exemplary role model to say the least) had Sunday service on his deck every Sunday, also employed musicians to lead worship then would teach form the bible. Why is that interesting? They called him Black Bart, the most successful Pirate in the hey day of such privateering.

Anyway, as for games, it all depends on the content. Family Friendly works, but GTA, XXX or false religion/occult type of games I stay away from. Logo or business name does not always reflect the game content.

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Originally posted by steveth45:
Yes, the radical concept that games should be fun really needs a deep theological study.

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LOL Haha! Funny stuff.

But, I must have met you at CGDC a couple years ago?

Here is me and Peter <the rebel planet guy> at the 2004 one below.

Hint: --> I'm the old bald guy named "Randall".

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God said to Noah, "The end of all living beings has come before me, for because of them the earth is filled with violence. I will destroy them along with the earth.
Genesis 6:13

Scurvy cat!

grrrr... jus' 'tain the same, matey...

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Originally posted by Faith_Warrior:
Ninja at my window? That’s ok, I have a Honda on my driveway just lookin’ for a fight

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LOL how do you know your Honda isn't already dead? Then he quickly taxidermied it so you wouldn't know any better--then like some crazy ninja trap will spring LOLJK--check him out tho www.askaninja.com --one of the best sites out there!

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People will be offended no matter what. I remember one person mentioning at CGDC 2003 (?) people were offended at some game because he had some dark colors in it.

A gold tooth would be cool, as CohortX mentioned.

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Needs more polys. Then cougar be awesome, by thundar. yarr.

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lol

Well, actually these screenshots are old.

The newer ones have PER-PIXEL shader on him, like shown below.

No doubt, it does look better with shaders.

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an eye patch? that's incredibly insensitive to those who lost their eye from BB gun accidents.
what about those people who did shoot their eye out, huh?

actually, anybody who is offended is a moron.
what I do say is to not leave the logo as a 3d model. Cel-shaded it, or something. Logo's look best rather abstract.

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People will be offended no matter what. I remember one person mentioning at CGDC 2003 (?) people were offended at some game because he had some dark colors in it.

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I remember when I was still at XrucifiX (back then TGS) at CGDC 2004 people got offended because we played Christian heavy metal at our booth----

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I'm greatly offended.

an eye patch? that's incredibly insensitive to those who lost their eye from BB gun accidents.
what about those people who did shoot their eye out, huh?

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Originally posted by Faith_Warrior:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ArchAngel:
[b]I'm greatly offended.

an eye patch? that's incredibly insensitive to those who lost their eye from BB gun accidents.
what about those people who did shoot their eye out, huh?

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i can vouch for that. one time i was watching the movie Cube 2 with my left eye (it was late so i figured i'd half sleep). so when i shut it off i had perfect vision in my right eye and it was pitch black in my left.

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Originally posted by zookey:
I remember when I was still at XrucifiX (back then TGS) at CGDC 2004 people got offended because we played Christian heavy metal at our booth----

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Wow, yes, the music is another potential sore spot.

Here is the CAIN'S CAVERNS song below. Most people think it is PUNK rock or something. I've already been told, to turn down the guitars in it.

CAIN'S SONG:
www.noahsadventures.com/downloads/gameinside.mp3

I guess, my conclusion is that no matter how hard I try, then some people will get offended. WHY DO I WORRY? I don't know, but I do.

Oh well, let's just forget about it and try our best to do what God tells us to do. No worry, just faith only. Sorry to bother you guys.

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God said to Noah, "The end of all living beings has come before me, for because of them the earth is filled with violence. I will destroy them along with the earth.
Genesis 6:13

Yeah I understand man---I used to go through that phase too--especially when I was initially starting up Team KAIZEN I had to go through it---but I finally realized God is leading my studio and, if he is blessing it, then he will work it out (which he is blessing it and working it out hehe) so who cares what others think at that point? Want a good look at that kind of thing?

http://www.skillet.com/news/images/fireworks2.jpg

that is an interview with Skillet where they talk about what it is like dealing with 'Christians' when they are more interested in being offended than anything else--which is psudo-christian in my book---but that is an excellent interview--just read it again today and realized that you might be interested

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Originally posted by Faith_Warrior:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ArchAngel:
[b]I'm greatly offended.

an eye patch? that's incredibly insensitive to those who lost their eye from BB gun accidents.
what about those people who did shoot their eye out, huh?

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they proved that on Mythbusters actually--only saw a clip of it but that is what eye patches were actually for.

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