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Are you a 'Romantic'? – brentlatham

BrentLatham
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I think the whole concept of being "romantic" is over-rated by the media, the movie industry, and society in general. There aren't any guidelines in the Bible about that either.

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bennythebear
romance is over-rated by a lot of people.

This discussion originated from the 'kissing before marriage' thread. I wanted to reply to this but figured that this is a definitely different subject.

A 'Romantic' is a person who will pick a flower from a tree for his mum or partner on the way home, will write poems or songs about their partner. A 'Romantic' is generally someone who is imaginative, expressive, given to exageration and usually impractical.

So if you are any of the above the world will class you as a romantic just like if you were very good at sports then you would be classed as a sportsman.

Romance is slightly different, if you are reading a romantic novel or watching a romantic film then you will be introduced to two people and somewhere along the line there will be passion and of course depending on age rating of the film/book will depend on how much passion there is. However, there will always be a kiss...even Chitty Chitty Bang Bang had a kiss in it!

Now then because I am a 'Romantic' and a Christian who thinks that the Bible isn't just a book to be shelved, I am pleased to tell you that the bible is full of guidelines and romantic stories...

...I tell you what, I'm thinking about this subject and its absolutely huge, I mean huge...fancy a Bible Study guys?

I invite any member to post a romantic piece from the Bible and give us a quick few lines on what they get out of that piece.

By the way, I think we should leave out Song of Songs because the whole book is about romance and guidelines for loving your partner!

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BrentLatham
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Genesis Chapter 34 - Shechem son of Hamor and Dinah, the daughter Leah

There are a couple of points to this story.

The first is that you shouldn't have sex before marriage no matter how much your heart is drawn to her and the second is that if your partner is from a different culture you really should find out what their customs are first!

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Ereon

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I'm not that much of an emotional "romantic" (well, I may be, I just haven't had a proper opportunity to see if I am or not yet), but I'm certainly an intellectual romantic. I enjoy thinking and acting in epic and somewhat exaggerated ways, and unleashing emotional and spiritual passion and fire whenever I write or work on a game. I love writing a story and making every word and description quiver with vibrance and burn, whatever the emotion being expressed is. So, in some ways I'm a romantic, but as far as physical/emotional romantic, well, I'm saving that experiment for my wife.

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Originally posted by brentlatham:

Now then because I am a 'Romantic' and a Christian who thinks that the Bible isn't just a book to be shelved, I am pleased to tell you that the bible is full of guidelines and romantic stories...

I invite any member to post a romantic piece from the Bible and give us a quick few lines on what they get out of that piece.

By the way, I think we should leave out Song of Songs because the whole book is about romance and guidelines for loving your partner!


I'm not sure we should have a conversation about romance and leave that book out - there are other examples - Jesus himself talked alot about the passion between a bride and bridegroom - pulling from the relationships of the day. Now there was not much romance pre wedding as there was very limited (if any contact) between the couple pre marriage.

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The Book of Ruth is the story of how Ruth stuck with her mother-in-law after her husband died, even through poverty, and Boaz, recognizing her inner qualities, despite her external poverty, redeemed her by marrying her and granting her and her mother safety and provision. It is quite a beautiful and romantic story with a decent helping chivalry, sacrifice, and redemption.

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BrentLatham
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Genesis Ch 29 - Jacob and Rachel

My personal belief that this was love at first sight...Jacob at this point was fairly old and here was Rachel a kinswoman and beautiful.

So he makes a quick impact by moving the stone, helping her water her sheep and greeting her with a kiss before revealing who he was. It doesn't stop there though because he continues to show his affection for her by working hard for seven years for her hand.

His affection though must have been returned because the seven years seemed but a few days because of his love for her!


Ereon - If you've ever picked flowers on any random day or made a daisy chain for your mum as a kid then its quite possible that you can consider yourself a Romantic!

TwoBrothersSoftware - I know it may seem a little silly not including the Song of Songs when there are clearly two whole chapters before marriage takes place but I want to see what kind of guidelines there are in the Bible!

steveth45 - Ruth is an excellent book, what do you think happened to the guy's sandle in the end?

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Originally posted by brentlatham:
Now then because I am a 'Romantic' and a Christian who thinks that the Bible isn't just a book to be shelved, I am pleased to tell you that the bible is full of guidelines and romantic stories...


Hehe. Well, I stand corrected and will tune in to this thread frequently.

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Matt Langley
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A 'Romantic' is a person who will pick a flower from a tree for his mum or partner on the way home, will write poems or songs about their partner. A 'Romantic' is generally someone who is imaginative, expressive, given to exageration and usually impractical.

I don't think you covered the possibilities of a romantic well, for example Ereon said:

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I'm not that much of an emotional "romantic" (well, I may be, I just haven't had a proper opportunity to see if I am or not yet), but I'm certainly an intellectual romantic.

I'm very much a romantic. I wrote (and still write) poetry to my wife before we were married, I try to think of the most romantic ways to present things and surprise her. On the other hand I am far from "impractical". In fact I am very much bound by logic, reason, and rationale thought. I am very self controlled and also very much not expressive in most typical ways. I find that I express myself to my wife in romantic ways since I'm not very expressive with words (in a romantic way, I can articulate and communicate fairly well in other ways). In fact in various aspects my wife would say I'm not expressive, though I am very expressive in romantic thought, surprises, and physically (no this doesn't mean just sex lol, for example I would rather hug her and give her a kiss and say I love her than just say I love her in a dramatic and drawn out way - which seems to be what your implying a romantic is).

I'm very much the romantic, though out of your criteria it doesn't seem to fit:

imaginative - yes
expressive - no (not in typical ways)
exageration - yes
impractical - no

I think it's key to keep in mind being romantic doesn't equate to being foolish and impractical (like romeo and juliet). Romantic means you care about your companions enjoyment. You like to do things that make them smile, surprise them with things. In general I believe anyone who truly is in love and isn't lazy with their love is a romantic, just romantics express themselves in varying ways. On the other hand those that are foolish, rash, and impractical are simply that, foolish, rash, and impractical. They are often driven by lust or a blind sight of what they think is love. Love is an action, something expressed over time, not simply a description.

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BrentLatham
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lol - Well I stand corrected but I was trying to cover as many areas in as few a words as possible.

ro·man·tic (rô-mân'tĭk) Pronunciation Key
adj.
Of, relating to, or characteristic of romance.
Given to thoughts or feelings of romance. See Synonyms at sentimental.
Displaying, expressive of, or conducive to love: a romantic atmosphere.
Imaginative but impractical; visionary: romantic notions.
Not based on fact; imaginary or fictitious: His memoirs were criticized as a romantic view of the past.
often Romantic Of or characteristic of romanticism in the arts.

Feel free to argue with dictionary.com though lol

Having said all that, you do have a point because the charactisation 'Romantic' does cover a fairly wide area and by no means do you have to meet all the criteria to be classes as a romantic .

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God created marriage so we could better understand the Gospel. Living a marriage that is lackluster and dull is making false the parable.

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Originally posted by insanepoet:
God created marriage so we could better understand the Gospel. Living a marriage that is lackluster and dull is making false the parable.


Well put

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I think it could be said that a romantic would be someone who, on occasion, might express themselves to a treasured one in an unexpected manner. I once had an argument with a very good female friend, leaving emotions ragged and on edge. Later that day, I was driving along a rural highway and saw a patch of golden yellow daffodils (or some such; anyway, they were astoundingly beautiful flowers) on the edge of a lot that looked like its guard dogs had guard dogs.

I stopped my car, went over to the flowers, plucked one, and brought it back to my friend. Forgiven. Emotions healed. Situation solved.

Given our LORD's predilection for romantic imagery in various and sundry books of His Holy and Inerrant Word it is obvious that He is a romantic, and raises the question: Since our Creator is a romantic, how is it that any of us who are made in His image—not being emotionally twisted, contorted and tied up in knots—could be not a romantic?

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there is an entire romantic book of two lovers professing their love: the Song of Solomon. there's a big romantic example right there.

oh brentlaham said leave it out... but why leave it out? it's exactly what you wanted us to post, a romantic part from the bible.

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BrentLatham
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The Book of Esther - Esther and King Ahasuerus

I realise there isn't much romance in this story and it almost feels like a factory - women in one end and wives out the other.

However, Chapter 2 v 15 is the reason behind mentioning this story. Even if you think you know what your partner likes it's always a good idea to ask and find out.

People differ so what one person may like done or the way the person likes to do things will probably be completely different to another.


TallBill - Good question and I guess possibly it could be argued that only because we have been made in His image doesn't necessarily mean we will have His characteristics! I guess to really figure this out you would have to decide what is the opposite to a Romantic...then you could measure people up against that...are they more self-centered or giving?...
more selfish than kind? etc and then you could say if they tended more to the kindness side etc then they may be given to exercising the 'Romantic' side of their character every now or then!


buddboy - As I said to TwoBrothersSoftware, it's too easy...it's far more interesting to see what one can find and pick up in other places. The actual thread has morphed into something different from the subject title...actually, it became different the moment I had the idea of seeing what kind of guidelines one could pick up from the Bible.

Because of this I am now responding to two subjects in the same thread:
What is a Romantic and Romantics in general
Guidelines in how one should act before marriage

All my fault really

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Matt Langley
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Feel free to argue with dictionary.com though lol

I wouldn't argue with it, it covers my points very well... The definitions you listed are all alternate definitions for different uses of the word. Though in the end we both seem to agree, I definitely agree with your statement here:

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Having said all that, you do have a point because the charactisation 'Romantic' does cover a fairly wide area and by no means do you have to meet all the criteria to be classes as a romantic .

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