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D-SIPL

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Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
hey,

I am currently (with CPUFreak on board) getting the Open Source Christian Network up an running. We are coding a Python CMS from scratch at the moment. I'll be using this thread to document updates and stuff. Would people here be interested in such a site?

We'll basicly be hosting some projects. Reviewing and rating current Christian open source apps as well as other good open source apps of interest. The site will have a forum and news, hopefully irc in the future. It will basicly be a community site for christian open source enthusiasts.

We are currently looking for someone to design a logo. Any volunteers?

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HanClinto

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From: Indiana
Registered: 10-11-2004
Sounds cool!

Just a question about goals, what are your goals for the website, and how are they different (if at all) from the goals of existing Christian-based open-source portals like Empty Crate?

I'm not trying to challenge you or insult the project -- it sounds very cool! Still, I'm usually leery of duplication/fragmentation, and was wondering what you guys thought of other similar efforts, and what hole/shortcoming you are hoping to fill.

Thanks!

--clint

[This message has been edited by HanClinto (edited April 16, 2007).]

CPUFreak91

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quote:
Originally posted by HanClinto:
Just a question about goals, what are your goals for the website, and how are they different (if at all) from the goals of existing Christian-based open-source portals like Empty Crate?

We are not trying to emulate Empty Crate, but we do plan to host some community projects. We also like to have complete control over the cvs/svn and CMS .

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Briant

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From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada
Registered: 01-20-2001
Sounds cool.

Are there any similar *closed* source sites? Have you considered allowing closed source projects as well? I might be interested in supporting such a project (through funding, providing webspace and bandwidth, etc.) if it allowed close source projects as well. I've often wanted such a site, but lack the web-programming skills to make it a reality (C/C++ is where my strengths lie).

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HanClinto

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quote:
Originally posted by BrianT:
I might be interested in supporting such a project (through funding, providing webspace and bandwidth, etc.) if it allowed close source projects as well. I've often wanted such a site, but lack the web-programming skills to make it a reality

You know, I think I'm with you on this one, Brian. If there's one thing that I've noticed in the two years I've been working with people at the CGDC, is that it's hard for indie teams to get groupware set up. It could be a real blessing to a number of teams to have a stable source control and internal CMS set up for them to share source code and design docs. I even started setting up SVN on a personal server of mine to start moving in this direction, but I've been running out of time and know-how.

In Christ,
clint

Briant

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Hey Clint,

EXACTLY. And not just the Christian coding community, but in general as well. Usually, small scattered teams have to either choose to go open source (and use emptycrate or sourceforge or similar), or assign one member as the source control person and email everything back and forth. Blech.

I wonder if it's worth even taking it a step further, and making a business plan for such an endeavor - like providing free usage for small teams and/or projects, but charge a small fee for big projects to help pay for the webspace and bandwidth. If it got big enough, we could even get advertising revenue from development tools companies, etc.

Just brainstorming.

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buddboy

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logo? I'd be willing to work on one, but there's only one condition. I cannot, and I mean this is impossible, work on it during the week. only on weekends. if that's a problem then of course you're going to want to look for someone else. otherwise I'll gladly work on one. what exactly are you looking for in the logo?

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Lava
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quote:
Originally posted by D-SIPL:

We are currently looking for someone to design a logo. Any volunteers?


I'll volunteer.

CPUFreak91

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quote:
Originally posted by HanClinto:
It could be a real blessing to a number of teams to have a stable source control and internal CMS set up for them to share source code and design docs.

Hmm. I haven't discussed this with D-SIPL, but maybe we could provide them with a subdomain. I'm not too keen on this though as it kinda makes the site an oxymoron.

With an adventurous spirit, I will say this though. I can provide shell access, svn, forums, wiki's, etc, and hosting as well as buy a domain if someone would like to start that kind of project.

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InsanePoet

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This sounds like a good idea... personally I perfer closed-source if you have a marketable product, it's just bad business to give away your stuff if it's perfectly sellable. However this depends on the context, Christian groups helping each other out is a different story, however it could get messy when 2 group want to market a product that they both had hands in producing each other's product.

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Lava
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So about the logo....to start it off should we just post samples?
D-SIPL

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Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
We will have a number of fundamental differences to other sites. It's important to mention on a side-note, that this

project is a result of the fact that I have not found a vibrant community of Open Source enthusiasts, who are also

Christians. The other sites, seemed lacking some things I feel are essential to a good community.

We want to implement an Open Source Christian site, primarily, to be a blessing and a witness in the Open Source

community. This is our main goal, we want God to be first.

Features:

[-] Projects - Hosting and Project Management for Open Source Christian Projects
[-] News - Open Source News of interest to the community.
[-] Interviews - Developer interviews
[-] Reviews - Reviewing Open Source apps
[-] Contribute - Once every 3 months or possibly less, we will select an Open Source project and help with the Todo

list. This could be bug fixes, documentation, tutorials, implementing feature requests. This will be both a blessing

and a witness to the Open Source community.
[-] Community - Forum, IRC
[-] Competitions - Open Source App Competitions

This is a quick outline of the current goals. If you wish to volunteer any help, let me or CPUFreak91 know. The current objective is to implement our own CMS, which is currently being written in Python.

Any questions or suggestions welcome

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D-SIPL

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Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
quote:
Originally posted by LAVA:
So about the logo....to start it off should we just post samples?


Yeh that wuld be great. Thanks

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D-SIPL

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Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
Just a quick update.

CMS is coming along well, we will have something more concrete up, once we have some templates for html. We still urgently need a logo and template designers. This is html and css if people are interested.

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CPUFreak91

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Hey D-SIPL, got any updates to share with us?

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D-SIPL

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Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
Well the cms has a bare-bones structure currently. You can see it here at http://www.oscnetwork.org.

We need some CSS designers for layouts. Also any Python developers that want to help out with the CMS would be appreciated. The CMS is written in Python using the Django Web Framework. We also have an SVN server. In the future we might be able to offer SVN space for Open Source development projects.

More updates coming soon.

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MastaLlama

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From: Houston, TX USA
Registered: 08-10-2005
quote:
Originally posted by D-SIPL:
Well the cms has a bare-bones structure currently. You can see it here at http://www.oscnetwork.org.

Your sub menu links gave me an error:


Mod_python error: "PythonHandler django.core.handlers.modpython"

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/apache.py", line 299, in HandlerDispatch
result = object(req)

File "/home/punksarcasm/lib/python2.4/django/core/handlers/modpython.py", line 177, in handler
return ModPythonHandler()(req)

File "/home/punksarcasm/lib/python2.4/django/core/handlers/modpython.py", line 150, in __call__
response = self.get_response(request)

File "/home/punksarcasm/lib/python2.4/django/core/handlers/base.py", line 103, in get_response
return callback(request, **param_dict)

File "/home/punksarcasm/lib/python2.4/django/views/defaults.py", line 78, in page_not_found
t = loader.get_template(template_name) # You need to create a 404.html template.

File "/home/punksarcasm/lib/python2.4/django/template/loader.py", line 79, in get_template
source, origin = find_template_source(template_name)

File "/home/punksarcasm/lib/python2.4/django/template/loader.py", line 72, in find_template_source
raise TemplateDoesNotExist, name

TemplateDoesNotExist: 404.html

I like the design of your site, it's very clean.

[This message has been edited by mastallama (edited October 06, 2007).]

D-SIPL

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Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
Thanks. There are probably a few errors. The submenu is more aesthetic rather then functional right now. We do need some CSS and HTML designers.

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