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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
Lol, I got a server error from Jester's thread as well. To recap:
quote: My thoughts exactly Linux ad: Wrong audience The Mac ad, even though they did it through some lying, it targetted the right audience, basically the message says "stop using a PC and come over to Mac", they got that right. They have the PC guy and have him show how "bad" PC's are and show how "good" Macs are. The Linux ad takes that same forumla, but adds a 3rd option. So in their ad it says "stop using a PC and a Mac and use Linux" basically, because they took the same premise of Mac's and just added Linux, while they are taking hits at both Apple and PC because they portray them in a negative light (i.e. arrogantly thinking they are the best). But it's the target where the ad is in error. Because Linux is mostly on a PC. So they're targetting the wrong audience. It should be "I'm Windows, I'm Mac OS, and I'm Linux". Because they're comparing hardware and hardware, then a software person comes in. The person switching to Linux will be using a PC more than likey, now if they want to take shots at Windows or Mac OS, fine. I'm just glad Novell didn't make Linux. This might not seem like a big deal for such a short ad, I am just posting my thoughts on it. But even so, anyone who is selling something to anyone should know what they're selling and who they're marketting it to. P.S. Mods, I made a thread almost identical to this called "RE: RE: Hi I'm a mac, I'm a PC, and I'm Linux" ( Here is the thread ), could you delete it please? I had to make this one because I couldn't edit in my other thread, many thanks. [This message has been edited by LAVA (edited March 24, 2007).] |
Lazarus Member Posts: 1668 From: USA Registered: 06-06-2006 |
Wow, lol. Three whole topics that can't be replied to.   If it's a funny commercial, I don't see any problem. (Unfortunately, the dang video won't load in Opera) |
HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
For the record, the reason topics like that can't be replied to is because of illegal characters in the topics. Don't put quotes in the subject line, and you'll be fine. By creating a "Re:" thread with the exact same title, you're just exacerbating the problem. --clint |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
Yeah I figured it had something to do with the title, that's the main reason I made this thread's name the way I did. |
Xian_Lee Member Posts: 345 From: Registered: 03-15-2006 |
As a Mac user, I used to love the Switch ads. However, I eventually saw the low-blow argumentation tactic that I call "straw man attacks." The idea is, is that the commercials paint PC in a way that nobody would want to identify with him, and give him no positive traits; then, they set up Mac to be this young, "cool" guy that people would want to identify, and give the impression that Macs have no shortcomings. Obviously, there are problems on both sides of this argument (Wintel machines do have good things going for them, and Macs have faults), but the argumentative strategy angered me. I just am not ok with that type of campaigning. I may be in the minority when it comes to these things, but I find that style of advertising demeaning and discrediting to the company that uses them. I still like my Mac laptop, and I definitely prefer OS X to XP, but I find myself caring less and less for Apple as a company (probably because of how tightly they control what you do with DRM and proprietary formats such as the Apple DV files used in iMovie more than because of their advertising techniques). ------------------ |
jestermax Member Posts: 1064 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: 06-21-2006 |
Yeah, now that i think of it, you're right. Something like SQL injection i suppose. ------------------ |
kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
sql injection error most likly - good catch When you plan on moving the new site I can help with this, actually wrote an article on this recently. |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Jestermax: I agree that the ads aren't that good in the sense that they're cheesey and childish. Maybe that's why I like them. ------------------ "Oh, bother," said the Borg. "We've assimilated Pooh." "Socialism works great... if there are no people involved." -- Pastor David Ginter, Union Church of Guatemala. |
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
i haven't actually used a mac, other than in the local computer store for like 1 minute, so i couldn't tell you much about macs. i know all three operating systems (linux, mac, windows) have their positives and negatives though. i personally prefer windows xp over anything else. that's simply because i know my way around it, and everything i do can be done on it. i like linux because of the price. . also because(if i had the skill to) i could set up any kind of server i wanted with it for free, i don't see microsoft giving away a server os, any os for that matter. as far as macs go, if they're all about being "pretty", and editing videos, and messing with music then they're not appealing to me. i might not hang out with the pc guy from the commercials, but he's the one i'd higher. the mac guy is reminds me of the employees at most stores(like best buy), they look and sound pretty, but they couldn't tell you nothing about setting up trust between two windows server domain controllers...or how to configure a raid array on your linux server. but who get's the jobs...the pretty guys  . ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
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Xian_Lee Member Posts: 345 From: Registered: 03-15-2006 |
I've seen those before. I find them a little less offensive, and, actually, more easily related to. Particularly the one about sharing. I can't stand how much Apple locks things down. I understand needing to protect your assets, but there's a point when I want to be able to do whatever I want (according to the law) with the music I purchased. I do like my GarageBand, however. ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: Same here. I'm just getting a Mac because I like the hardware and no one has time to test or package my code on OSX. ------------------ "Oh, bother," said the Borg. "We've assimilated Pooh." "Socialism works great... if there are no people involved." -- Pastor David Ginter, Union Church of Guatemala. |
NetCog Member Posts: 149 From: Registered: 06-15-2006 |
Umm, I'm not sure which PC vs Mac commercial you are talking about but the one with "you are coming to a sad realization. cancel or allow"....I'm not kidding when I say that's pretty darn close, at least as someone who needs the tools MS either deleted, buried, or convoluted so much that it doubles our troubleshooting time. You'd think they'd have learned from ME and XP SP1... While I'd give MS points for some bits - easy to connect networks, better flow of email setup.....they totally blew it whenever there is a problem and something doesn't work the way it's supposed to work. It's almost like AOL...they dumbed down a lot of the processes so it pushes regular users even further away from being power / informed users. Bad enough that someone calls up with "Yea, I have Basic Vista and I downloaded some screensavers and now my Internet won't work", makes me want almost want to say, "If Norton doesn't get you up and running, you've got two choices. Repair shop or reformat." (I'm an internet help desk, not a repair shop, otherwise I'd clean it up. Thankfully, while the file manager got messed up, it's not a complete disaster.)
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Xian_Lee Member Posts: 345 From: Registered: 03-15-2006 |
quote: You should have said something, I would have offered as much of a hand as I could. In my opinion, GarageBand is the best consumer product Apple makes. I'm a musician, but I don't have a lot of money to invest in production on top of everything everything else, and GarageBand gives me a whole lot of power as a musician/producer. Unlike iMovie, I never find myself wanting to edit my music in multiple programs. (iMovie is another thing that bothers me about Apple's lockdown, because all imported DV footage is in a proprietary format that I can't share with any effects program or alternate editor.) Back on topic, Apple and Microsoft both have their faults (as does Linux/Unix), but I get sick of hearing the endless debates and low-blow attacks on each other. ------------------ |