MastaLlama Member Posts: 671 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
Check out this guitar: http://www.music123.com/Product/Product.aspx?sku=20395 I really want to get it but I don't know. Does anyone (Ken?) know anything about 7 string guitars? Thanks, [This message has been edited by mastallama (edited March 03, 2007).] |
ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
whoa. next step: double neck guitar. I wonder how you play it. I'm assuming that it adds a lower string, B? oddly enough, I just bought a guitar music book. Offspring. haha. now, to actually practice. ------------------ |
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
from - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven-string_guitar nevermind. site with some info. ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs [This message has been edited by bennythebear (edited March 03, 2007).] |
goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
Doesn't Washburn work with Gibson? Why do they have an Ibanez design? http://www.ibanez.com/eg/guitar.aspx?m=RGA121 Ive been looking at guitars recently too. I'm hoping to get one very soon. I'm actually more interested in the B.C. Rich Beast though. If you want something 'out there' check out the Bich 10 [This message has been edited by Goop2 (edited March 03, 2007).] |
|
ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
oh, just reminded me. my cousin plays a 12 string acoustic guitar. basically, each string is paired up with another string an octave up. so you play it like a normal guitar, but you hold down 2 strings at once (or if you want to be really cool, you can play around with it. rounds off the music really nicely. ------------------ |
InsanePoet Member Posts: 638 From: Vermont, USA Registered: 03-12-2003 |
I want this: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Standard-Jazz-Bass?sku=516042 In the "Midnight Wine" color.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Conklin-GT7-7String-Bass?sku=512704 The fretboard is HUGE. I need someone to make me 7 stringed fretless acoustic bass. I think that thing would be physically impossible to play by most humans. BTW... don't most brands copy either Fender or Gibson. I saw a few Ibanezs that looked quite like fenders. ------------------ [This message has been edited by insanepoet (edited March 03, 2007).] |
|
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
i have a johnson "strat", it's a cheap knock-off of the fender stratocaster. speaking of which, would any of you know what type of tuner keys/pegs i should get to replace some i lost? i can even take some pictures of the peghead to give you a good view of them. i'm looking to get them online, so musicians friend would be ok, and any color would be ok. also, i was wondering how hard it is to change the pickups on a guitar, and what types/brands give what kind of sound? i've been aiming to get it fixed and restring it so i can start picking around. i need to learn how to play some music so i can start writing songs, which i REALLY want to do. ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
|
goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
If you want my opinion.. and I know you don't want my opinion..  I would just buy a new one. Fixing up a junky cheap one would be more work than its worth. Its better to just start with a decent cheap one that cames from a trustable company. Don't forget to check the reviews first though. Dean Vendetta XM $100 Good reviews, and not a bad price. I would get something more expensive, but if your looking for cheap.. It wouldn't be whole lot more than buying parts and repairing the one you have. That is, if you do it yourself. If you go to a shop it might be more than buying one. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Goop2 (edited March 04, 2007).] |
|
InsanePoet Member Posts: 638 From: Vermont, USA Registered: 03-12-2003 |
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-G400-SG-Electric-Guitar?sku=518291 This is what I got... The Epiphone SG... it's a good guitar, costs about 200 bucks. I don't have much experience with the Squire Bullet myself, but I do with the squire statocaster and it's not good IMHO. It seemst he bullet is lower on the list. If you want Squire i would recommend the Telecaster. I wouldn't go too cheap... definatly don't go buy a Les Paul, but don't go too cheap.... remember, you get what you pay for and spending a few extra bucks for something a little more reliable pays off in the long run. ------------------ [This message has been edited by insanepoet (edited March 04, 2007).] [This message has been edited by insanepoet (edited March 04, 2007).] |
Xian_Lee Member Posts: 345 From: Registered: 03-15-2006 |
For what it's worth, there's a major difference between having a similar body form in a guitar, and being a copy of another guitar. Example, most Fenders have an alder body, and, while many guitars have a similar double-cutaway design, many other brands don't use alder construction. That alder construction is a major part of what makes a Fender a Fender. Example, I have a PRS SE Custom. It's made of mahogany. The body shape is kind of similar to a Strat, but it's much, much more like a traditional Les Paul because of its core materials. Anyway, I gave thought to getting a seven-string guitar to complement my PRS, because I like to play a bit of drop-tuning metal stuff (like Demon Hunter in Drop-B) and my PRS simply doesn't sound all that great in Drop-B (it gets too dark and muddy, likely because of the mahogany construction), so I decided to buy a Squier Affinity Fat Strat to upgrade and use for drop tunings. I would often fear buying such a cheap guitar ($150), but because the core construction is the same as that of a more expensive Strat (alder body, maple neck), and I wouldn't keep anything stock on pretty much any Strat, I decided to buy a cheap guitar and upgrade (I also wanted to have access to single coil pickups). As it stands, I'm pleasantly surprised with the quality and capabilities of the Squier's stock configuration, but I'm still upgrading when I can. Back to the topic, I believe that a seven-string guitar just has a lower B string (sometimes these guitars are called baritone, if I'm not mistaken). The upside of this is that you don't have to have your guitar in crazy drop tunings to play low power chords, the downside is that you lose the drop-tuning playability (new derivatives of power chords are available as a result of drop tunings). Additionally, you have a seventh string to learn to use effectively. Regarding the guitar you linked to, I think that looks like a good start. I definitely would suggest that you'll want to replace the pickups and other hardware in time, but it should be a good way to start in the land of seven strings. The body is made of alder, so the guitar itself shouldn't produce dark mud when playing the low power chords, but the pickups are probably going to cause mud. My first guitar was a Washburn, it's decently constructed, but the hardware is lacking. In short, you'll likely play a seven string like you probably play a six string now: general power chords with a lot of distortion. I like Washburns, and this looks good as a base, but you'll probably want to upgrade it as your skills with it progress. That's my $0.02 on the subject. ------------------ "He who walks in integrity walks securely, |
kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
Hey I can't believe I missed this post. Being a guitar guru and a coder, I now feel back at home. If you do not play a 6 string - dont step to 7 string, you add a lower "chunk" factotr" It's like having a baratone guitar/regular guitar. The extra string can be tuned either to b or some folks tune to D. As far as washburn, it will be a low end guitar at best. Musicians friend has the same guitar in case you can't get it at 123. I am not a fan of washburn, they have gone downhill in the past few years. As far as 7 strings go, if you want quality, go with Ibanez, they have mastered the 7 string. Double necks are pretty cool, they just weigh a ton. The lighest are about 30 pounds. Imagine holding one for a 2 1/2 hour gig. Not much fun B.C. Rich, a lot of history, well underrated. They make nice guitars for low price. Their 10 string is somewhat intriguing to me. No music store will carry it though. I would like to find one to try. Arch - to correct you there are 4 sets of octaves, and the highest 2 strings are doubled, but they sound pretty cool, Does anyone remember 8 miles high? 7 string fretless acoustic bass. Check with albemic, I think they made one custom. If you have a broken johnson strat, it may have just come from the box. . . Insane, epiphone has pretty reasonable stuff, nice price point. My personal choice is Jem http://www.ibanez.com/eg/guitar.aspx?m=JEM7v Whatever type of guitar you play, just play well and loud my coder friends. Hey check out the speed monkey video if you get a change (nice guitar solos IMHO) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxLLiTkiOaQ |
|
goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
Nice. I always had a thing for monkey grips. ------------------ |
bwoogie Member Posts: 380 From: kansas usa Registered: 03-12-2005 |
i wish i could play the guitar... or the bass... or the drums.. or anything haha. i have zero musical talent :O ------------------ |
|
InsanePoet Member Posts: 638 From: Vermont, USA Registered: 03-12-2003 |
Bwoogie.. it's true that music comes easier to some rather than others, but KNOW ONE who is talented got it easily. Every one had to practice for hours and hours and hours. Some people aren't inclinded to music, but don't sell yourself short.
1. Many bass lines to some songs are fairly simple. This helps with enjoyment at first because right off you can read a simple tab and play along with a song. So in that regard it's easy to pick up and play, but of course it gets more advanced when you go along. You don't have to stay with the bass. I personally favor the bass over the guitar, probably because i'm more comfortable with it. And skills do transfer! The bass and the guitar have similarities. ------------------ |
|
ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
yeah, started with piano and moved to bass. trying to pick up guitar, but I just like the bass over it. I just love the feel of the strings and the sound. it really gives a soul to the music, too. you listen to the guitar, you feel the bass. ------------------ |
|
MastaLlama Member Posts: 671 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
quote:
quote: I've always loved BC Rich but never bought their bases because I couldn't get a 5 string Beast or Warlock.
quote: Ah, ok. If I bought a 7 string, I would probably start with a Washburn due to price. I have 2 electric 6 strings (Stagg Heavy F Flying V guitar, Fender Strat) and 1 accoustic (Seagull) and I want to step it up to a 7. I have 3 basses as well (4 string Dean Accoustic Bass, 5 string electric Fender Squier, 6 string electric Alvarez). My old band Under The Blood has gotten back together too (me on bass). Check out our CafePress store and buy a shirt!!!!! http://www.CafePress.com/UTBband |
|
goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
Once around the time of my birthday.. I think I was 8.. My parents found a free Upright Grand. Nothing wrong with it except it was out of tune and a couple keys didn't work. (broken strings I assume) I never really did much with it.. Never learned to play it, but eventually I figured "This isn't for me." After a while I got an interest in electric guitar. I wanted one for quite a while.. a year or less. Eventually I got one for my (15th?) birthday. I got it from my older brother. Its not a very good one, but it works for starting out. Ive learned quite a bit on it, and I'm going to be getting a new one pretty soon. Don't worry about skill Bwoogie. When I started playing I knew nothing about it. I could sort of tell sounds apart, but thats about it. Now Ive gotten pretty good, and I can tell why some chords are the same, even though they sound different. Telling why a G chord and a G power chord are the same is easy for me, but they sound quite a bit different ------------------ |
|
MastaLlama Member Posts: 671 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
Speaking of 12 string guitars... |
|
Xian_Lee Member Posts: 345 From: Registered: 03-15-2006 |
quote: DADGAD sounds interesting. Is that an Open-D tuning? I'm looking into alternate tunings to use with my (now modded) Strat when I don't want to play in Drop B (B F# B E G# B). A few of the open tunings look interesting, but there's one called... Low G I believe, and it looks quite interesting. Anyway, drop tunings are my favorite; there are a lot of things that can be done in a drop tuning that can't be done in standard tuning. But yeah, skill is a progression. Some people are more naturally gifted than others, but anyone can learn to play quite well with practice. ------------------ "He who walks in integrity walks securely, |
|
MastaLlama Member Posts: 671 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: 08-10-2005 |
quote: I love signature stuff. One of my favorite guitar players is Yngwie Malmsteen. One day I want to get his vintage white maple fender strat and I did get the Yngwie J Malmsteen Signature Overdrive Pedal and it sounds AWESOME! |
|
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
ok...$200 vs. $30ish for some tuner keys...hmmm. the guitar i have is fine, i was just daydreaming with the pickups. but i would like to get some replacement tuner keys...no one seemed to notice that part of my post... ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
|
kenman Member Posts: 518 From: Janesville WI Registered: 08-31-2006 |
quote: What you may not realize is most (there are a few exceptions) replacement pegs are not stock size. I had some grovers thrown into a les paul and the tuners were $49 and it cost $125 to have them installed. Most tuner replacements require some routing. If you are game to do it yourself you can get tuners for $10. |
|
goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
Ive had an interest in the scalloped fretboard since I first saw in in a book. You can fix the tuners, but then something else will probably go wrong. Then if you fix that something else will happen. Someone told me once that its best to but a $300 guitar, than spend $400 upgrading a $100 one. ------------------ |
Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
Ahh music... I love it, but I just can't play it... My friends are crazy about music, one plays the Gitaur, one the Drums, the other the piano (and electirc keyboard) They are all really into playing music, but... i just don't have the thing for it, you know? I love hearingit, but I just can't play it... or have a passion to play it. ------------------ |
|
InsanePoet Member Posts: 638 From: Vermont, USA Registered: 03-12-2003 |
quote: If you put forth some effort even though you "don't have the passion" and gain some skill, it's a lot more enjoyable than just starting out. When i first started I didn't really have the passion, just a bit of an interest I wanted to amuse. After some time your fingers are moving faster than you can think, the adrenaline is pumping and the music is flowing!
[This message has been edited by insanepoet (edited March 05, 2007).] |
|
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
thanks for the help. ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
