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ArchAngel

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https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4258/

adds a 3d effect when switching tabs.
no real practical value, but it's sweet to look at.

screw you, windows vista, firefox still owns you.

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Hmm..

Well thats just plain cool! I had to get it

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Possible the slowest firefox addon in exisitance. It makes it slower than IE
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That's great!

Now I'll know when a new tab is opening.

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doesn't slow it down for me.

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What does it do? I've installed it but I can't see any change.
ArchAngel

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do you browse with tabs? (you would also have to have directX 8)

anyhow, the only slowing down this does to me is the animation time.

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I have the latest DirectX only (DirectX 9.0c).
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so do I. your supposed to see a spinning cube affect, kinda like when desktop switching on Macs (i think,forgot what OS).
u sure you have it enabled?

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Not sure if Mac has it.. probably.. I know Linux you can make it do something similar. Anyway, when you switch tabs it SHOULD show a turning cube animation. If you click a new tab it turns in that direction. If you click an old tab it turns toward it. There is one flaw though.. If you have 3 tabs, and are on the newest one, it skips the middle one when turning to the first. Not a problem, but its not the same as desktop cubes

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It's pretty awesome, I like the effect. But I took it off, because I'm not really use to it and it goes faster otherwise.

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quote:
Originally posted by LAVA:
It's pretty awesome, I like the effect. But I took it off, because I'm not really use to it and it goes faster otherwise.

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totally agree. its neat but slows me down.

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ArchAngel

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yeah, I wish there was an option to change the animation time,but honestly, that half second between tab switches isn't that valuable.

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I must disagree with you AA. I think its 3/4 of a second. half a second may not seem "valuable", but this is a quarter more. Like they say, time is money!

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Not quite Goop. To say time is money is an insult to time. You can always replace money, you can never replace time. Plus it just looks stankin' awesome.

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speaking of firefox. anyone know why firefox 2 is so CPU intensive?? it killed my laptop battery in a fraction of the time it should have and right now it's coasting at 70% of my CPU time.
with 1.5 it would just take up massive amounts of memory but now its stealing my processor power.
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quote:
Originally posted by jestermax:
[B]speaking of firefox. anyone know why firefox 2 is so CPU intensive?? B]

I noticed that also, if you have multiple tabs open you can easily devour memory also. I have been doing researches where I have had 15+ tabs open and Firefox is using 750MB+ memory.

I should do a side by side memory comparison IE/Firefox to see memory use/CPU use to see which is more efficient.


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i generally have about 15-20 pages open through tabs and multiple windows so i'm used to the memory useage, which is apparently a "feature". i read an article about it one time but i can't remember the details or the fix. but that still doesn't cover why it's eating my cpu . this is actually kind of a showstopper; its affecting everything i do on this laptop, especially compiling.
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quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:

screw you, windows vista, firefox still owns you.


LOL When I get a new PC probably later this year I am strongly considering getting an Imac when Mac OSX Leopard launches---and I will use its' built in 'boot camp' program which partitions the drive and installs a version of Windows on it (I will use XP) ---then, whenever you start it up, if you hold down the control key it will ask you if you want to boot the Mac machine or the Windows machine---best of both worlds!

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I think Firefox was designed for Linux, where memory isn't as scarce. That may not be the reason though..

My next computer will be either a white Macbook, or a desktop PC. Reasons being: Linux is said to be more difficult to install on a laptop, but if it has MacOS on it, I wouldn't need Linux to enjoy the limitless power of UNIX. Reason for the desktop PC.... I don't like the shape of the iMac :\

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my next pc will be a crazy-powerful desktop with XP and linux finally i'll be able to work with 3D stuff/shaders again
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Personally.. I'd rather have 2 PCs for that. One with Linux on my desk..

And one with winXP in my attic.
Glad your not looking into vista though. I feel sorry for anyone who actually gets it :\

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zookey

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Just installed it---AMAZING--I love it!
Josh

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quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/4258/

adds a 3d effect when switching tabs.
no real practical value, but it's sweet to look at.

screw you, windows vista, firefox still owns you.



*Talks in a salesman's voice*
"I have a product that will do that for your entire GUI and fast too! Not to mention it's only $0.0099!"
*Back on topic*

That's a nifty plugin. Too bad I don't use FF anymore.

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quote:
Too bad I don't use FF anymore.

I'll pray for you

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InsanePoet

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Firefox Tab Effect

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-Tabbed by insanepoet

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quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:
[QUOTE]Too bad I don't use FF anymore.


I'll pray for you

[/QUOTE]

"Won't you pray for me..." (Some song I heard once)

I hope you will, Arch. I use *gulp*... Opera.

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opera?!?! you had better be on a Wii :P
goop2

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quote:
Originally posted by insanepoet:
Firefox Tab Effect


Hmm.. do you have that in numbers? I'm having trouble finding the 'I' note :\ Also, there are only 5 strings, so I'm not sure if it starts on the low E, or the B.

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I think it would sound something like freebird.... oh hang on, that's the email app if similar nature.

Firefox i think would be hendrix... somewhere between "Fire" and "Foxy Lady"


Heh, i meant to do six... could be 5 stringed bass =)
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Yeah, I thought it might be.. Thats interesting, but it doesn't show what frets to play on.

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I actually am just starting to really go towards FireFox and ThunderBird---they are both much nicer and work on my PC as well as my PS3 (linux) so that I have just 1 program--I still need to figure out how to migrate my settings from one computer to the other although I won't need to know how to do that for a while...I have actually decided that, for my next pc, I am going to wait for Max OS X Leopard and get a Imac---because Leopard will have a built in program called 'BootCamp' that partitions the drive and installs Windows XP on the partition. Then, while starting up, you hold the alt key I think (they say the option key--which I think is alt) and it will come to a screen where it asks you if you want to boot windows or mac--and it only boots that OS so you don't waste system resources by having 2 OSs compete for processing power----plus, when you first run bootcamp it helps you make a driver CD for Windows so that Windows can use all the iMac built in accessories like the camera and the mouse and all----LOL I did a lot of research on it recently and it looks like to be the best of both worlds! You can even right-click on macs now (the mouse has a sensor that tells which side of the mouse you click on and you can configure what right clicking means in the mac os and that driver CD helps Windows understand that sensor, from my understanding). ---if you are interested, again from my understanding, you could switch out Windows XP for Vista or different versions of linux---the only thing that would make that all better is if you could make 3 partitions, one for mac, WinXP and Yellow Dog Linux---that would be sweet, basically the ultimate PC (not to mention that Firefox and ThunderBird work on mac too)!

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@zookey migrating is a breeze in firefox.. backing up too. There is a profile directory in you user directory that holds all the settings. no registries used.. its nice.

@cpu I thot you were OSS all the way. If not FF, then what? some other gecko based browser like epiphany?

I've been watching this thread. I guess I'm really starting to get old because eye candy just bugs me. Functionality or simplification, that's what I want. Nothing on my system is skinned; no funky animated or fading menus, etc. But it does what I want.

Now I'm starting to feel the urge to say whipper-snapper.

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Agh, I think Im gonna be the last person in the world with a desktop PC :\
Nah, Ill get an iMac someday. First Ill be getting the Macbook though.. and a new motherboard for my PC... Actually on second thought, Ill use the nifty network to burn CDs instead! Only reason I want a Macbook is cause Mac is totally cool, and only reason I don't want an iMac is cause its tiny. I suppose some would disagree and say that WHY they got one.. I dunno.. maybe I will get one after all. It is cheaper...

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I'm probably never going to get a mac, just like I'll never by a japanese car.
they might be good machines... I just don't like them.
I don't like how the macs look or feel.
I'm pretty content with using Windows and Linux/Unix.

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quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:
I'm probably never going to get a mac, just like I'll never by a japanese car.
they might be good machines... I just don't like them.
I don't like how the macs look or feel.
I'm pretty content with using Windows and Linux/Unix.


the Japanese car in the Wii commercials is the bomb (not to mention the 24 inch Imacs) LOL

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I actually prefer Japanese cars..

Mac OS-X is Unix.. If you like Unix you should like Macs.. Ive never used one, but I would like to try one for that reason.. and cause Apple is better quality too..

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Mac is built off unix, doesn't mean it is.

I've used Unix (Solaris) and frankly... I wouldn't get a unix machine.
I actually kind of despise the pretensious unix users who think VI is the greatest invention ever. it was, maybe, until the mouse came out. now it's just too complicated to bother with. I could scroll through a page using the hjkl keys, or I can click.

I also despise jap car fanboys. especially the ricers.

so, Goop. I'm watching you. mr. Scion-Xb-is-cool...

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Originally posted by Goop2:
Mac OS-X is Unix.. If you like Unix you should like Macs..

Hardly. I like Unix, but OSX is a strange conglomeration of open source Unix descended code and closed, proprietary, non-Unix-like code. It's graphical subsystem is not X11, but it does run X11 on top of it to give support to applications written for the X Window System.
(This can be done just as easily in Windows with Cygwin.) Other parts of the operating system are alternately BSD (Unix) subsystems and Apple's proprietary code (not Unix). OS X is like a cyborg. It's half Unix and half Apple, with some blurry areas where the two overlap each other.


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@cpu I thot you were OSS all the way. If not FF, then what? some other gecko based browser like epiphany?


Not all the way. Unfortunately with my current hardware only 98% of my system is OSS. I run 3 proprietary programs: fglrx ATI drivers, Vmware, and Opera. If the Mesa drivers improve enough to run emulated Windows games on my card, I'd get rid of the fglrx drivers.

The only reason I run 3 proprietary programs/drivers is because without them, I might as well be running windows for most of the things I do.

As for Opera.... Firefox needs to have better memory management, session management, and RSS feed capabilites. Until then, I'm using Opera.

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Vrooom!

Scion is American FYI. Yes I like the xB, but I like other cars too..

For instance, who could live without the Honda NSX? That thing can get some speeed.

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My RC pwns ur RC.

And yes, I do own one and it goes over 20 miles per hour.

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Wow. You could ride that thing to college, Ereon.
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ooo ooo, mount a .30 cal on it
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I'd like to get a nitro powered one and do some races.. they aren't exactly cheap though.

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For my next car I plan on getting a Honda Element---not a racing car in the slightest but that is ok since I don't race LOL-----I like the 'swiss army knife' approach they took with how it can do so many things

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Some people don't like the element because of its 'boxy' look. Putting it side by side with some other nice cars might show how round it really is

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goop. scion is owned by toyota.

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quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:
goop. scion is owned by toyota.


who is one of the corporations that first pioneered the business use of the term 'KAIZEN' (which, in business sense, means to strive for the ultimate quality while treating all employees at all levels as if they are royalty practically) which makes them cool---although their attempt to rip off the Honda Element was kind of crappy--I sat in both one of those and an Element and the Toyota you could absolutely not see--the windows were small for the vehicle and you felt as if you were in a tank--and it is tiny LOL!

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yeah... I still hate them.
and honda.lol.
none of their cars excite me. they might make some good cars, but I still don't like them. (mind you, just because it's Asian doesn't make it good and just because it's American doesn't make it crappy... that bias gets under my skin)
being korean, I have a small disposition towards Japanese products; I rarely like them.

and I grew up in michigan. I'm a GM guy.

speaking of which, I'm really stoked about the Pontiac G8/Holden Commodore, new Chevy Camaro and the Chevy Volt.
still having fingers crossed over the Pontiac GTO comeback.
ahhh... that 06 GTO. 400 hp/400 lb/ft torque. 0-60 4.8 sec, <13 quarter mile. not to mention great handling, and a nice interior. got to ride in it. man. unbelievable. never heard a car sound as good as that one.
but, high hopes for the 09 camaro. same engine, LS2 (corvette). new Zeta Platform(Global RWD platform now), developed courtesy of our buddies down under (thanks aussies.)

you know, sometimes I think I'm more of a car nut than a code junkie.

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We could just say you're a nut, Arch.

Cars.. meh. Atm I could care less to be driving a VW Beetle or an H3.

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Scion is owned by Toyota, but its still American made.

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hehe you know now that Korea and Japan are practically tied at the hip right? Japan is slightly more advanced (actually, they are more advanced than us--I was in Japan for 2 weeks in 2002 as a goodwill ambassador for Montana) but they constantly switch celebrities (when one becomes popular in one country, the next step is to become popular in the other) and they usually team up to cross promote each other for soccer stuff. The only thing is that, in Korea, any depiction of Samurai or Ninjas is outlawed--which IMO is weird--but either way they mostly have gotten past previous pain---if Korea still dogged them for what happened in WW2 that would be about as cool as us dogging today's Germans for what the Nazis did----not bright---ALTHOUGH we can dog Germany for their modern stupid laws----a few of which include:

They are considering a law that, if passed, would make it so that while you are playing a video game, if you shoot someone in the game and they 'die' you can be charged with murder and be punished as if you actually killed someone--I think this law works the way too that you can be charged with murder for selling games that, by our standards, would be M for Mature.

They have a law called something like 'Migglespause' which means 'nice break'--basically from noon to like 3 pm everyday you can't do anything that makes noise and can be fined and I think jailed for breaking it--nice part of that is the definition of what makes noise is totally dependent on the person filing the complaint---just begs to be canon fodder for retards who get into fights.

They made a law last year that, for every child born in 2007, the family would get like 30,000 bucks USD equivalent---so a bunch of people took substances and chemicals to artifically delay their children's births until after the new year to cash in---LOL I can just see that happening here though

LOL that was a side rant--I actually learned all of that at a doctor's office reading a gaming magazine in the lobby----and, if that first law passes, CryTek has already said they will pack up and ship out. BTW when I went to Japan I got to spend 6 hours in Incheon International Airport in Seoul, Korea both ways (so 12 total)---cool place although I didn't get to see anything outside of it--but it is like a giant shopping mall which is always cool.

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I'm glad I don't live in Korea. Nutso place.
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Wait.. if that law passes.. 92% of the German population would be in prison or on death row

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with today's korea, there really isn't a problem.
but it's more. the japanese, before WW2, tried wiping out korea. a little more than just fighting them on some distant battleground.
even before that, japan and korea fought. Look up the history of the Turtle Ship (first armored gunpowder ship. used to sink boats full of samurai)
besides, the last time we actually fought the french was before we were a nation, and we still like to rag on them. granted, it's just too fun.

I just don't like japanese culture. I think it was highly romantasized.
just look at how we portray the Samurai (ala The Last Samurai). they weren't that honorable. they were highly oppressive. how many japanese movies show ronin fighting off legions of corrupt samurai?
besides, Asian culture just doesn't hold this a mysticism for me. it's rather mundane.

now the germans, well. they're just cool.
and laz, that was germany. but Korea did have a kind of monetary compensation for having children. it decreased with each child. basically, government was trying to push to have 2 child families. if I remember correctly.

goop, most of the cars we have, domestic and import, are partially made here and partially made elsewhere. the market is global.
just because the car was assembled in an American factory doesn't make it american. some GM cars get platforms from australia, engines designed in germany, assembled in Canada. they're still american because GM is american. you call a civic a domestic car and you'll get funny looks.
Toyota founded Scion. it's a japanese company.

and with all this being said, if I couldn't live in America, I'd probably move to Australia.

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Heh, I agree with you archangel about japanese culture, it's highly romantisized. I know so many poeple who just love japanese culture but I'm not digging it. Not to sound racist, I have no problem with the Japanese.

In truth, most of history is romantisized. It's because we live in a fallen and sinful world.

But in terms of "culture" I really perfer my own culture and heritage. I'm Irish by heritage and I am pround of that. Every history class I've had to take in college I've been bombarded with anti-western/pro-eastern thinking. Basically they tried to teach me that western culture/history is crap and asians are so much more sophisticated. A lot of people subscribe to this thinking.

My friends after they watched "The Last Samurai" stated that "Samurai are so much cooler than medieval nights" I disagreed with them and then they proceeded to say I was "uneducated".

Truth be told I actually can speak and write a bit of Korean.

안녕

that says "hello". I'm certianly not fluent in it nor could I keep up a conversation but I know how to say a few basic things and I know how to read/write the alphabet.

Oh in S. Korea all men have 2 years compulsory military service... with no compensation.

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AAAAGH!! I am so sick of samurai! Ninja destroy samurai.. ANYWAY, people think that way IP. If you disagree with them on something, the more liberal ones will act like your stupid and don't know what your talking about. But hey, I don't need much of an education to call someone uneducated! I can actually learn that word at home on my own!

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ArchAngel

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quote:
Originally posted by insanepoet:
안녕

that says "hello".



very nice!
pronounced "aun-young," for anyone who wanted to know.

quote:
I've been bombarded with anti-western/pro-eastern thinking.

serious. funny, tho. korea, for example, are trying to emulate the western nations. out of the mouths of some native koreans, western culture is grand and majestic. koreans wear english words like americans wear kanji. it's funny. terrible grammar. I have a t-shirt that says "rafting: activity and exciting."

and yes, all koreans have compulsory military service. all my uncles and cousins of age in korea did military service.


Insane, you, sir, get 5 points.

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InsanePoet

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I have a friend in Korea, she studied abroad where I go to school for a bit... funny thing, she was majoring in English. I helped her with her English and I got her to teach me some Korean in exchange.

My experience with asians and my conversations with them has led me to the conclusion that they don't have the same anti-western views as many westerners do.


oh and btw I actually typed that text, not copied and pasted it.
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zookey

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Yeah, the Japanese were ruthless back then---but still to dog today's Japanese for what their ancestors did would be like us dogging ourselves for putting innocent US citizens in internment camps during WW2---actually I think InsanePoet said it and it nailed it dead on---we live in a fallen world--so that is why when people rip on any specific culture I get really upset--every one of the countries on earth has evils and skeletons in the closet------but, on the flip side, I will agree that history is romanticised in general-----and Japan is like Korea also that they emulate western culture---as far as me liking Japanese culture it is because I love some types of anime (not all of it, I think DBZ is stupid beyond all belief) and I love tech toys---and there is no getting around the fact that Japan pretty much beats us in that---when I was over there technology stuff they had like CD players were better built and cheaper price wise---their average 5 year old has more tech toys than I did when I was 18!

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zookey

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sorry for second post, I am posting on my PS3 and it has a typing limit so I had to split it into 2 posts-----with screwing up english that phenomenon is called 'engrish' and you can go to www.engrish.com and see lots of awesome ones--those are mostly Japanese but some Korean and Chinese ones are there too---with Knights being cooler than Samurai---picking one over the other doesn't make you more intellegent or conservative or liberal--and to think so is actually kind of immature--both were very brutal and what people like today is fantasy depictions of them in fictional stories---people take the good style from it and leave the brutality--just like enjoying the cultural stylings and story telling style of one culture over another doesn't say anything about the person--to each their own, it doesn't bother me that a lot of people like Knights despite the fact I find them boring for the most part that is part of life (although, truth be told, I think Samurai pale in comparison to Ninjas...)---but yeah sorry if

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zookey

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(continuation, stupid typing limit!) sorry if I sound mad---that isn't my intention but I am trying to get the point across that writing a particular culture off for previous sins is a combination of wrong and Un-Godly--we all fall short and we all (once we use the term 'we' on a national level and not just meaning our small group) have crimes against humanity that ultimately prove we don't deserve God's glory--so if other people can't be proud of who they are (and others can't enjoy it) how can we be proud of who we are and think that other people can enjoy the cool parts of our culture? Although, I do agree fully idolizing one culture sucks royal---not everything from Japan rocks but, for me, around 80% of it does---although almost nothing from Shonen Jump.

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ArchAngel

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I'm not holding the past against them. I'm
A) arguing against over-romantasizing a culture, and
B) saying I just don't like them. I don't hate them. I just don't care for them. It's no responsibility of mine to like them.

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zookey

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From: Great Falls, Montana, USA
Registered: 04-28-2002
quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:
I'm not holding the past against them. I'm
A) arguing against over-romantasizing a culture, and
B) saying I just don't like them. I don't hate them. I just don't care for them. It's no responsibility of mine to like them.


OIC ok cool--I can pretty much agree with A and B is totally personal choice so I have no prob on that

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