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Alpha Centauri – Mene-Mene

Mene-Mene

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Alright, I've got to make this. I've heard a lot of talk about Alpha Centauri, and here's where it goes.

Questions:
1. Favorite way of Beating the game?
2. Favorite faction
3. Hardest faction
4. Biggest enemy/ies
5. Highest Level
6. Favorite Allies
7. Prefered map
8. How did you get your game
9. Best Epic Battle
10. General Strategy
11. Favorite unit(s)

Here's my answers:
1. Having a 3 way empire in peace, with probably Morgan industries, Santiago, and Gaia.
2. Favorite faction, Gaia's Stepdaughters.
3. Hardest faction, Brother Lal
4. Yang, and Miriam. Miriam attacks me, and all of my friends, and is very powerful. I've had epic battles between me and Yang, and have always won.
5. Citizen, I'm going to try Specialist sometime soon, after I beat it with Lal and Yang.
6. Gaia, and Santiago.
7. Huge Map of Planet
8. I got it REALLY cheap at a Garage Sale next door, I had heard of it from Arch, and wikipedia, and though I'd try it out, tried it liked it, enjoy it.

9. My favorite Epic Battle would have to be Morgan?/Yang, he had taken over the entire middle continent in planet, and I the left continent. He declared war on me, and I moved into his continent with a sea base, and later an Air Land base on his territory, took a huge amount of time getting 2/3 bases, but once I did, I'd gotten a good foot hold, and brought him down with Gaia on my left, now gaining 1700+ Energy per turn.

10. My strategy would be to if you're going to take down a powerful enemy, move a base or 2 near their territory. That way, if its taken, you don't give them a foot hold in yours, and they just get lost men for a base. I've only lost 1 game (First game, Lal/Miriam, Miriam was Unsurpassed, I was not) even though thats only at citizen, thats something to go by.

11. Probes, and Locusts of Chiron. Scenario editing at the beginning of the game with my SkyFort is awesome too. (Quantum Laser, Time-Stasis, Gravship, Blink) I beat an entire faction with that one unit.

Edit: Wow, this must be my longest post.

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Lazarus

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quote:
Originally posted by Mene-Mene:
Alright, I've got to make this. I've heard a lot of talk about Alpha Centauri, and here's where it goes.

Questions:
1. Favorite way of Beating the game?
2. Favorite faction
3. Hardest faction
4. Biggest enemy/ies
5. Highest Level
6. Favorite Allies
7. Prefered map
8. How did you get your game
9. Best Epic Battle
10. General Strategy

Here's my answers:
1. Having a 3 way empire in peace, with probably Morgan industries, Santiago, and Gaia.
2. Favorite faction, Gaia's Stepdaughters.
3. Hardest faction, Brother Lal
4. Yang, and Miriam. Miriam attacks me, and all of my friends, and is very powerful. I've had epic battles between me and Yang, and have always won.
5. Citizen, I'm going to try Specialist sometime soon, after I beat it with Lal and Yang.
6. Gaia, and Santiago.
7. Huge Map of Planet
8. I got it REALLY cheap at a Garage Sale next door, I had heard of it from Arch, and wikipedia, and though I'd try it out, tried it liked it, enjoy it.

9. My favorite Epic Battle would have to be Morgan?/Yang, he had taken over the entire middle continent in planet, and I the left continent. He declared war on me, and I moved into his continent with a sea base, and later an Air Land base on his territory, took a huge amount of time getting 2/3 bases, but once I did, I'd gotten a good foot hold, and brought him down with Gaia on my left, now gaining 1700+ Energy per turn.

10. My strategy would be to if you're going to take down a powerful enemy, move a base or 2 near their territory. That way, if its taken, you don't give them a foot hold in yours, and they just get lost men for a base. I've only lost 1 game (First game, Lal/Miriam, Miriam was Unsurpassed, I was not) even though thats only at citizen, thats something to go by.


1. Favorite way of Beating the game?
2. Favorite faction
3. Hardest faction
4. Biggest enemy/ies
5. Highest Level
6. Favorite Allies
7. Prefered map
8. How did you get your game
9. Best Epic Battle
10. General Strategy

1. It's a draw between crushing all opposition with String Disruptor drop troops and Shard Choppers, and Planet Busting Planet's crust to pieces.

2. Spartans and Santiago own all. I like Zhakarov too(that research bonus is great).

3. Sister Miram. It's so hard to make allies when you are a religion fanatic... *sigh* My reputation is always bad with her too because I can't resist attacking with that 25% bonus.

4. Yang - Dierdre - Miriam. All others are much easier. Dierdre is usually a pushover - Yang takes a while because he's got a ton of cities stuffed with worthless units - Miriam's a tough nut to crack.

5. Transcend. I will play on any of them, though; depending on my mood.

6. Santiago and Zhakarov. They give me units and research when pacted. All Yang and Miram give me is threats. Lal whines about my nerve-stapling and Dierdre yells at me for abusing the environment.

7. Huge Map of Planet.

8. First picked up the demo a looong time ago on a Linux CD... I loved that game so much. A few years after that I looked for it online - played the Windows demo for a while... then I found the full version of Alpha Centauri(and Alien Crossfire) on a certain site which will remain nameless.
(Hint: Woodchucks)

9. I was playing Morgan, and on an island - built up a very good core of bases - then built dozens of Singularity Planet Busters and blew the map apart.
Another one which shall always have a special place in my heart is the battle I fought with the Hive - I was playing Zhakarov, entrenched on Pholus Ridge. It was a hard and bloody battle - my Chaos Needlejets were falling from the sky like hail - punctured to pieces. But eventually, once I got ground troops over a long stretch of ground and started taking over his bases, the battle was won. Previous to that I'd been forced to just bomb lone units and terrain enhancements.

10. Find a good spot, scatter around a few bases - build build build like crazy so I'd be ready for the inevitable wars.
During wars, my strategy is usually - crunch down a base in their territory - then depending on my military might, either hold that base till I can bring in reinforcements - or stampede on without even leaving a unit to guard it - same for every other captured base.

Only lost one game, Mene? Whoa.
I don't really mind losing. Sometimes I'll even release mind worms into the wild next to my bases so I can hit 'em with a planet buster and blow up the base.

Mene-Mene

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I've only played like 10 games. I don't like losing, it hurts my record. You sound very, Treacherous, whats your ratings? Deirdre's mindworms/Locusts of Chiron/Isle of the Deep pack quite a punch. I've only played Miriam once, and Morgan moved into my territory, I attacked his 3rd base, he whined, I let off, he didn't let me have any of his (later discovered non-existant) techs, so I squashed him, easily. Yang got angry at me (he was on the other side of planet). Haven't finished our dispute yet. Santiago is a bit hard to play as. I haven't played as Yang, I always squash him, just takes time.

Add 11, Favorite unit(s)

I don't get your hint, I've got Alpha Centauri, but not Alien Crossfire.

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Lazarus

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Well, Jez mentioned it so I guess I can.
http://the-underdogs.net - Home of the Underdogs. It's a site with alot of older games for free. (Including SMAC)

Alien Crossfire makes the game even better(it's an expansion with more factions and other cool things)

Mene-Mene

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Are you sure you have the link right? All I see is a blank type site/search engine. Does it have the hyphen?

actually its www.the-underdogs.info

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"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto

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ArchAngel

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quote:
1. Favorite way of Beating the game?
2. Favorite faction
3. Hardest faction
4. Biggest enemy/ies
5. Highest Level
6. Favorite Allies
7. Prefered map
8. How did you get your game
9. Best Epic Battle
10. General Strategy
11. Favorite unit(s)

1. Conquest
2. Cyborgs
3. dunno. maybe gaians.
4. Hive
5. Transcendent. whatever the hardest one was.
6. University, Cyborgs
7. huge.
8. dad bought it (we'd play together)
9. don't remember.
10. build tech then kill.
11. units are custom. hoverships, I guess.


man, this is depressing me. my CPU doesn't support AC.

time to drown my sorrows in GC2 and MOO2.

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Mene-Mene

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Arch: I found the Alien Cross fire didn't work on my PC, but the original did.

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ArchAngel

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hmmm... neither worked on the desktop but let me try AC on my laptop.

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Lazarus

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Oh, the humanity! Not being able to play Alien Crossfire... I pity you poor souls.

SMAC will ever have a special place in my heart. I can never forget that game. Never. NEVER!

InsanePoet

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The Underdogs lives!!! I thought they were done!

I usually played as the Gaians and won without warfare.

Now if it was Civ III, I'd *always* play the Celts and conquer everything.

I haven't actually tried this, but I assume you guys have, but just in case
http://www.firaxis.com/support/support_detail.php?gameid=7&cat=2
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Lazarus

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Transcending life, eh insanepoet?
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but of course.

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InsanePoet

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That fix totally works

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ArchAngel

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k, remember using a patch on my desktop... again.. gonna try this on my laptop. thanks for the link.

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InsanePoet

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I just made the change to the INI file and it worked fine.

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ArchAngel

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same here. Crossfire works also, with the patch.

so I was playing the game when I have hw.
now it's late and I have to wake up early to a long day. yay.

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Lazarus

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It was inevitable. I'm glad you got it to work, though.
Mene-Mene

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It works now. Haven't played it yet though.

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ArchAngel

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man, I forgot how addicting that game is.
it has Play-By-E-mail, right? if so, anybody up for one?

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I'm up for a little Age of Empires 2 sometime....but that's another story.....

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Mene-Mene

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If it did, I might consider doing a Play-By-Email.

Some other highly addicting, great rpgs include (You have to stomach a bit of magic unfortunetly) http://www.mofunzone.com/online_games/sinjid_shadow_of_the_warrior.shtml Sinjid Shadow of the Warrior

And
http://www.bonus.com/contour/k_quest_hosted/http@@/ww/bonus/games/kquest/
Knights Quest

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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto

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Lazarus

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A PBEM would be awesome, Arch. We playing Alpha Centauri only or mixed factions?
Mene-Mene

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I'd prefer Alpha Centauri only, I'm not used to Alien Crossfire.

BTW, do you know what Alpha Centauri: Alien Crossfire is? AC:AC/ACAC

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Lazarus

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SMAC is the generic name for the series - and Alpha Centauri, Alien Crossfire is known as SMAX.
Mene-Mene

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I know, but its still funny.

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Lazarus

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Yeah, it is; kinda.

It always reminds me of the word "smacks", which is a funny word, somehow.

Anyway, Alien Crossfire is a great expansion. Especially the new "Planet" features.

ArchAngel

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I play as the Cybernetic Consciousness, so SMAX would be better for me.
mmm.... smax...
I want those Smacks cereal now.


Lava, I'd play some AoE2x with you.

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Mene-Mene

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I'm just soo familiar with the old factions, old game, old units, old concepts, and I'm not ready for the new Manifold factions. They seem to unbalance the game as superpowers, (Of course my gaian's grew fast enough to counter that, but they just seem to get soo good soo fast. I know they can't interact at first, or become planetary govenor, but still.

If we do play, regardless if its SMAC, or SMAX, then I want the Gaians. I always pick them. Although I thought they were bad on their planet crazyness, (and she ISN'T naked) but Cha Dawn's worse!

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Lazarus

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Cha Dawn is a psycho, but I like playing his faction too.

And the aliens - they are much better, but the designers wanted the human players to first team up against them and then fight eachother.

Mene-Mene

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I agree, the aliens are better, but I still am more experienced with/better with the old game, seeing as I'm the underling here. (I've only been playing for a few months.

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Lazarus

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Alien Crossfire does change the gameplay, but I think it gives a much richer experience.

Perhaps we could play a PBEM of Alpha Centauri first while Mene Mene gets used to SMAX. (Arch, since you can't play Aki how bout you take Yang? You fit his description to a T anyway. )

Mene-Mene

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Zakhov is more like the attributes of Aki. I got Deirdre! Who are you Laz? Santiago?

They should make a Greek civil war one. (Spartans, Athens...) It'd be an awesome history lesson.

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Lazarus

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Hmm - should I go with Lal and try to keep Arch and Mene away from eachother's throats - or be Morgan and make tons of dough while Arch and Mene battle furiously - or be Santiago and pwn Arch and Mene.

Santiago FTW! I know what faction I'm playing.

Zhakarov...

Mene-Mene

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I knew it looked wrong. I think Lal is a brilliant Idea for you. :looks at arch and makes pact against Laz: OWNS Laz. what does pwn mean?

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ArchAngel

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PWN = Power oWN.

if I couldn't play the Cyborgs, I'd do the University. but, we'll just set the factions manually. I don't like the progenitors, either
I'll be the only SMAX race.

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Mene-Mene

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I'd really rather just play the original, I might be able to compromise though, i haven't picked a favorite yet. (Must play all of them to know.)

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ArchAngel

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toughen up. I'll be the only SMAX.
we'll all be allies. (unless we want a face off)

I've only played 4 of all the factions. just find out how you play and choose a race that best suits it. no need to play them all.

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Lazarus

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I just had a brilliant idea - get Warsong to join the game - and he could play Sister Miriam's Believers - a perfect fit! j/k

Hey Arch, if we play that way I'd pick Svensgaard(SMAX sea faction) instead of a SMAC faction.

Mene-Mene

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No! I'd have to be either Roze, or the Caretakers!

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Take Roze then! She's a good faction. I must warn you though - her +2 probe can actually decrease her probe rating if it gets too high(when combined with a Coverts Ops Center or some Secret Project that increases your probe rating. It's a bug they never fixed.

So we'd all be allies, Arch? Fine, fine! I'll agree to that.

...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! NEVER!

Mene-Mene

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Ok, we can play SMAX. I'm not sure how it works though.

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Lazarus

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How it works? It's the same game, just with a few added features.
Mene-Mene

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No, how we play together or against eachother by email.

So when do we start?

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ArchAngel

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MM, just cuz we play SMAX doesn't mean you have to. I'll just have all factions set to SMAC.

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Lazarus

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Yeah, that'll work. What factions should the 4 AI be?

Hmm...
Lal, Miriam, Yang, and Santiago. That way they'll pound eachother while we live in relative peace.

Yeah right.

Mene-Mene

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You can't change the new aliens though, I'll just play SMAX. Anyway, rules.

Here's what I suggest:

Rules:
Total War
Peace in our Time
Mine, All Mine
One for All
Do or Die
No Unity Survey

Factions:
Gaia's Stepdaughter's: M^2
Human Hive
The Cybernetic Consciousness: ArchAngel
Nautilous Pirates: Lazarus
Spartan Federation
The Lord's Believers
Peacekeeping Forces

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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
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Mene-Mene

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Arch, you're next. Is your email matching with the one you have here?

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yeah.

oh, no bell curve.


also, before we start, are we gonna do a total ally up against the AIs, or just go our seperate ways?

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ArchAngel

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yeah.

oh, no bell curve.


also, before we start, are we gonna do a total ally up against the AIs, or just go our seperate ways?


what level are we doing? Librarian? thinker? Transcend?

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Mene-Mene

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Why no bell curve? It stops Random Events that I never liked. I was thinking teaming up with who you want, like in Single Player, (Teaming with who you like, fighting who you don't) Like say, me, Santiago, Believers, and you Arch vs. Rest of AI, and Laz.

Oh, and Citizen Level. (Why mess with the AI, when you could be messing with your friends? )

Just my input.

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Arch, Citizen level is probably best, since Mene hasn't played as much(but he will, in time. He will.)

Mene, why no Unity Scattering? Why no Unity Survey? And if we put Spoils of War on - it nullifies the Cybernet Consciousness' power to do that already(I mean we'll all be able to do it), so yeah.

Why not have the Transcend victory on too?

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Okay, no Spoils of War.
Definetly No Unity Survey (Thats half the fun! Exploring!)
I'm not sure about Scattering, (Never made much sense)
The Transcend never made much sense to me, I didn't see much point in just researching to win.

Does anyone have YM? Yahoo Messenger?

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"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto

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Lazarus

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With Unity Scattering on, there'll be pods scattered everywhere. Running over them with a vehicle can yield good things(energy, resources, vehicles) or bad things(fungus blooms, native lifeforms, earthquakes, and teleportation).

And hey - with Unity Survey on, the map is still hidden - it's just the topography that you can see. You still have to explore!

(I have icq)

Mene-Mene

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I knew about Union Scattering, I just thought it didn't make sense that it would be all over planet. I'll turn on Union Survey.

Arch: Why no Bellcurve?

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Lazarus

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He doesn't mind seeing his solar collectors wiped out by a hailstorm and then two years later a meteor strike destroying his best base.
Mene-Mene

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And then seeing a few hundred "Assisted" Planet Busters headed his way.

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Lazarus

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Actually, I find it terribly amusing to take on an enemy with hundreds of terrain enhancements, and just shower him with fungal missiles! The sight of all those solar collectors and farms and mines and roads being erased by red fungus crawling with worms and spore launchers is a wonderful sight(and Planet grows stronger - yes!)

Mene-Mene

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Double post, srry.

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Mene-Mene

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I haven't used Fungal missiles yet. Are we clear on the rules?

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Lazarus

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Wait - what about the rule that you can either be restarted at death or remain dead?
Mene-Mene

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I'm not sure about that one, I don't want one of us to immediately be eliminated by Aliens, or by AI, but I definetly don't want AI to be restarted.

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Lazarus

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Well, then leave that rule off. Arch said we'd leave the Aliens out, though.
Mene-Mene

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Okay, anyone have YM? Yahoo Messenger?

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Lazarus

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No. I probably shouldn't get it either.
Mene-Mene

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Why?

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Lazarus

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Personal reasons.

Do we really need an IM program to play this game?

ArchAngel

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no IM program needed.
my YM account is the same as my e-mail address.

reason for no bell curve is that the random events keep you on your toes. some good, some bad. I always liked that they added to the game. random environment means more flexible thinking.

I personally go no unity survey, yes unity scattering. no spoils of war (because I'm cyborg, but if you want it, that's fine) and Do or die. I don't like killing off the same player multiple times.


but the most important, imo, is keeping the difficulty above Citizen.
I personally can hold my own in a Librarian game. and if we all team up (share tech and everything) we can take on transcend.
just... not citizen.

Mene, you can take on more. you played 10 games, and won 9 of them.
you graduated out of the sandbox. you can take on a tougher game.

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Lazarus

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You know, the thing I disliked about the harder difficulty levels was that - instead of making the AI more challenging, they just made it HARDER for you! At least, that's what it seems like - maybe I'm wrong.

Those rules sound fine to me, Arch. I think we can take on Transcend level just fine.

Mene-Mene

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No, we don't need an IM to play, its just an easy way for me to contact.

Ok, I'll add Bellcurve
I'll Add Do or Die
I'll take away Unity Survey

Hmm... IF we're willing to team up together, (until the end, one must die, or two)
then I'll do Librarian. That's like skipping way ahead.

I'm trying to keep it in the middle. I don't want unity scattering but I'm pretty much letting Arch have his way otherwise.

Edit: Oh, FINE, I'll add Unity Scattering.

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Thought travels much faster than sound, it is better to think something twice, and say it once, than to think something once, and have to say it twice.
"Frogs and Fauns! The tournament!" - Professor Winneynoodle/HanClinto

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Lazarus

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Well, lets do it.

Does anyone mind if I use nerve gas on Arch?

ArchAngel

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haha, yeah,you are.
kinda feel guilty for dominating the game rules. oh wait, there it went. just a little gas, that's all.

oh, under Conquest, we can win if we're all allied together(max 3), we can win.
because if we'd have to fight and kill each other in the end, I wouldn't give you my tech.

alright, I'll create because.. uh.. my name begins first in the alphabet.
yeah, that's it. (that and I've done hotseat multi on this.)
I'll give you no unity scattering, Mene.
I'll also bump it down to Talent in the case that we don't ally. I think you'll be just fine, Mene.

so, here's the way it works. when it's your turn, the person before you will e-mail the file to you (you actually have to grab it out of the save folder of the game. on your first turn, set your password.

alright, here are the settings:

Huge Map of Planet.

Talent.

Rules:
All Victory modes.
Do or Die
Look First
No Unity Survey


Factions:
Cybernetic Consciousness (ArchAngel)
Gaia's Stepdaughters (MM)
Nautilous Pirates (Lazarus)
Human Hive
Spartan Federation
the Lord's Believers
Peacekeeping Forces

(tell me if you want to change the leader's names.)
does everything look good or more changes?
I can keep victory down to just Conquest, which I'm fine. cuz that's the way I like it.

my e-mail is:
archangelx5 -at- yahoo -dot- com

Laz, you'd be emailing to me.
Mene, you're emailing Laz.

on a side note, you two might wanna start your own game, cuz I might be a little slow on my turns.

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Lazarus

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Are you kidding...

Mene, my email is ptl100 -at- hotmail -dot- com

Mene-Mene

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Arch:Thank you for taking action Arch. I'd kinda like to start because 1. I've got the last alphabetically, and 2. I'm the least experience. But if you want you can go first. Thanks for bumping it down to talent btw.

I'd like to revamp my info, (I use the default in my regular games) because being called "Lady Deirdre the beautiful" isn't great for my reputation. I'd suggest that we go by our Screen Names like, "Lord Mene-Mene the intelligent", or "Prime Function Arch-Angel the Activist", or "Captain Lazarus the conqueror". If all is acceptable that is.

Laz: I'd like to start a game ourselves on the original, Level Specialist with the aforementioned rules by Arch. If you don't want to thats fine.

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ArchAngel

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k, go ahead.
put me anywhere on the list.

just change my name to ArchAngel, but if you really wanna go into the specifics:

Name: ArchAngel
Formal: Soterion Empire
Noun: Soterions
Adjective: Soterion
Title: UberLord
Description: butt kicking (or teh h@x0r5, you can choose)
Gender: Male

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Lazarus

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I'd be happy to do a second game, Mene.

Name: Lazarus
Formal: The Risen
Noun: Reviveds
Ajective: Revived
Title: The Resurrected
Description: Unkillable. (Get that punishment sphere away from me! )
Gender: Male

Nah, I'm kidding. I'll just put my name as Lazarus and let it be at that. No need for a whole new faction or anything.

Mene-Mene

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Arch:

Alright, games set up, and sent to Laz.

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Got it. Will play and send to Arch(and you, Mene) post-haste.
Mene-Mene

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Weird, it appears my post got erased. Anyway, I've sent the games to Laz.

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Lazarus

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I played the turn and emailed it to Arch.

The other game .sav just crashes SMAX, though. (the game between you and me) Perhaps you could redo it or resend it?

Mene-Mene

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its in SMAC, not SMAX.

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Ah. Well, I'll play and email it to you tomorrow - must get some sleep now.

TTYL Mene.

Mene-Mene

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Okay, ttyl Laz. Have a good nights sleep. I should go to bed soon.

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Lazarus

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Right, cya.

(and in tune with the game of SMAC) Walk with Planet!
(Personally though, I'd rather nuke Planet)

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I'll be emailing the other .sav to Mene in a few minutes. I just wanted post because I'm realizing something.

I'm addicted to Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri. I'm hooked, dependant, and - well let's just say it out loud, "Lazarus is a SMAC junky".

Ahhh... I love this game. I will never go to any "SMACAA" meetings because none exist, and no addict to the game has ever broken his addiction, nor wanted to.

If someone created a game that held its fans as devotedly as this game does - and a lot of people liked it, they could take over the world - seriously.

Uh-oh...

ArchAngel

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I actually probably do need a SMACAA.
I couldn't tear myself off the game.

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Lazarus

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Not a rehab center anywhere, either.
Btw Arch - Soterion is filling up with spam bots again.

Mene-Mene

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Made my turn Sarah of the Morganites.

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Lazarus

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Lol!

Well, I emailed it back to you.

ArchAngel

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Oi. somebody gonna send me my turn or what?

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Lazarus

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I did email it to you. The archangelx5 account. Have you checked your spam folder?
buddboy

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I've had Alpha Centauri for several years now, and I never thought it was any fun. to me it's just too complicated, and the turn-based system is just too boring for me.

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Well, to each his own, buddboy.

*thinks about various tortures to employ on the boy who doesn't like SMAC*

j/k

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yeah, each to his own.

now if you were to say you didn't like even one of the CNC games you would have to be subjected to some KGB tactics, Lazo.

hey I just came up with a nickname. cool.

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Lazarus

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Lazo? Um - Buddboy, how would you like to have a finger amputated every time you call me that? j/k

buddboy

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haha I said I came up with it, I didn't say it was good.

here, how about every time i call you that you call me buddobiwan. that ok with you, lazo?

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Lazarus

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Fine, buddobiwan.

Arch, you get it yet>?

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no, not yet. send her again.

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Lazarus

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Right.

*Edit* Sent 2 seconds ago to your email.

Mmm - Beet Broccoli Carrot Cake...

I think I'm gonna throw up.

Mene-Mene

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You haven't responded my game that I sent too you.

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Lazarus

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Get it yet, Arch?
Mene-Mene

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Did you get mine?

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Mene-Mene

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Did you get mine?

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Beet Broccoli Carrot Cake?! What?!

why don't you just eat puke. that would save you the trouble of puking, you could just put it in your mouth and spit it out.

eww.

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Mene-Mene

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Buddboy, are you okay? You seem a bit upset and with a lack of patience.

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I reserve the full right to change my views/theories at any time.

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me?

well, I'm really tired and I hate school and my brother won't shut up, other than that I'm fine.

haha, why did I seem .. whoa MM ur 11. language man. haha.

well, I was just joking there.

and the only other topic I got a little contentious in was the stupid warsong post, and he just ticks me off. don't matter what mood I'm in, warsong can make me mad.

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Mene-Mene

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Yeah, those were the 2 posts I saw first. lol. Okay. Be watching your PMs I might send you one. (Seeing as its off topic here)

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ArchAngel

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sry, won't get my turn out for a little bit. crazy times. midterms, etc.

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Mene-Mene

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Apology Accepted Admiral... Actually Laz has been late on ours. Don't worry, I'm busy enough with learning C++ and school.

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ArchAngel

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alright, finally got a little slack off school.
took my turn (also beat my old game. librarian was hard until the end, when it took me like 5 turns to wipe out a faction. I perfected my strategy)

anyhow, I just realized I don't have your e-mail, MM. so... I miiiiight need it if I have to send it to you.

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