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samw3

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Two questions:

1. How old are you?
2. How long have you been coding?
EDIT: 3. First computer Language

My Answers:
I am 34 years old.
I've been coding for 24 years.
Atari Basic - Atari 800XL

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jestermax

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i'm 21 and i've been coding for 6 wonderful years.... oh how time flies...
kenman

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38 years young
coding - I think 26-27 years. I think I have early onset coding dementia and I forget how long I have been coding.

Another thing to add to this thread is computers that are no longer made that you have programmed on.

Anyone remember the Commodore Pet - Made a Pacman remake game in basic on this exact computer in 1981! http://oldcomputers.net/pet2001.html

Oh I feel old .

spade89

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man, i feel so young now i am 17 years OLD.i've been coding since i was 15. and no most of the computers you guys consider old were made before i was born.

and another thing to add,what was the first thing you learned in computer world,and if you are a programmer what was your first language??

the first thing i ever knew was html,my first language is c++/c.

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kenman

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Html didn't exist then

First language I learned. BASIC, the before visual basic basic

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i'm 21 and i've been coding since i was.... prolly since the 6th grade.. however old you are then... qbasic for the win!

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1. 15 years old
2. been programming for 2 years as of today.
3. QBASIC was my first language

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Gettin' near 40.

I don't know why but I always tie my early computer programming with the release of Supertramp's Breakfast in America. So at least by then.

Old computers I programmed on are some computer/calculator, Apple, Apple II, Commodore 64, Apple II Plus, Mac Plus.

My first language was BASIC which was all I used the first 7 or 8 years until I learned Pascal my Senior year in high school.

Lava
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1. 17.7
2. About 3 Years
3. Barely, barely touched AGS scripting, so basically Blitz3D

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22, I don't really code but I do know a bit of VB

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27 years old
coding continuously for the last 3 years, started maybe 14 years ago with QBasic in MSDOS 5.0 on a 25 MHz 486 with 2MB of RAM.

I actually miss that computer. I used to play Wolfenstein 3D, Scorched Earth, and DOOM. I had to spend like $100 to upgrade to 4 MB of RAM to play DOOM--a game I still enjoy. I learned C on that computer with Turbo C.

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Mene-Mene

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How Old I am: 12 in 57 days.
How Long I've been coding: 2 years in 72 days.
First Language: BlitzBasic

Most surprised by: Spade, Didn't realize how young he is. Sounds so experienced with C/C++ You'd never know he wasn't above 25.

First thing in the computer world: Solitare. I believe I was 2 at the time of this. I did it WITHOUT assistance. This was before we got E-Machines.

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age doesn't matter :P

anyways, my first lanaguage was technically c but i more think of vb6 as my first

Mene-Mene

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True, but sometimes it can affect the maturity level due to experiences, and choices.

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jestermax

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yeah but you don't need to be young to be immature hehe
Mene-Mene

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yeah, I've noticed, Not mentioning any names... But some people I think say that they are less mature than they are.

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I'll speak up in RM's defense there M^2 -- he's become much more mature since he first came onto the boards here. I don't think there's any reason to say he doesn't yet "act his age" or anything -- you'll certainly see the way he used to be if you read the original Girl's thread, but he's mellowed out quite a bit.

While I'm posting, I might as well answer the poll.
I'm 25, and about 19 years ago my dad sat me on his knee and taught me all about "#include <stdio.h>" and "void main(void)" in Borland's classic TurboC compiler (this was pre-C++). Things dropped off in middle-school, but I picked it up again in early high-school when I learned Delphi and VB6.

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SEE? i want to teach my kids that stuff right away . Apparently you can teach children sign language before they learn to speak. so why not teach them to code .
Actually while i'm here and talking, i'd like to say that coding reminds me of this book i read. it was actually based on the game Myst (which i haven't actually played sadly ). people got these books and wrote stuff in them that defined a world basically. it really seems a lot like programming
Mene-Mene

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I'm not bashing RM intentionally. I'm just saying he's a lot more mature, and brilliant than he gives himself credit for. I mean RM bashes himself alot, and its kinda sad.

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15 and I've been programming since - uh...

nvm that part.

It is pretty sad the way RM looks down on himself. I wept over that last post where he complained he was too lazy to learn Java.

Then I sobbed.

spade89

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knowlege and age are really not that tied together,immature people can be smart too you know,and i just love that old turbo c++,if only it had proper debugging features,and modern libraries.

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With all this talk about whether age matters with coding, I hope nobody gets the idea that this thread was for people to boast about their credentials. I struggled with people thinking I was incapable because I was young. I thank God for the opportunities he has blessed me with in my life.

The reason I started this thread was to get a feel for where people are at in their life and coding experience. I mean, on the net, age really doesn't matter. You all could be lying through your teeth and I wouldn't know.

I am actually encouraged to see younger people here. Where I live it feels like coders are a dying breed.

Anyways, just my $0.02

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Yeah, I'm actually a 54 year old female with blue hair who lives in Detroit and runs a publishing company.

*Everybody's like: *

Just kidding.

jestermax

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are you a hot 54-year old woman? lol
Lazarus

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Back off, son - you're 33 years younger than me.

(That was a joke there, as I said before... )

jestermax

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hahahaha. goooood times
Lazarus

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...okay, JMan. Are you really Arch under another username?

ADMIT IT!

Getting back on topic... *cough*

I started with BASIC(didn't we all? ...nvm those ASM people over there...), then went on to using Eu.

C++ and C and D were a little too powerful for the programs I wanted to make, so I never did finish learning any of them, although I wrote short programs using them often enough.

Mene-Mene

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No, I'm a Knight of the Most Royal, and Noble Order of the Stone Table. Authorized by Aslan the Great Lion, founded by King Edmund, Duke of the Western Wood, instated in the Great Land of Narnia, taken by Gift, by Conquest... ( Forget that part) Yeah, I just did that on my own, from memory of Prince Caspian.

Well maybe not YET, but I should be. Okay, jk, jk.

I'm currently learning C++, and hope to code in it someday.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mene-Mene:
I mean RM bashes himself alot, and its kinda sad.


Yeah it is kinda. I used to bash myself when I was 12-13, then I grew out of it.

Laz: If RM would dedicate time he could learn Java. I need to dedicate time to learning a new language now that I've finished Half Life 2.

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wow too many young people in here. Good thing Samw3, Kenman and ssquared are around. Ken don't feel old, feel wiser. But I never heard of the pet lol.

I don't remember what I first programmed in, that was like over 15 years ago. I did a little programming on the Commodore vic20, or maybe it was on the C64.
I think I liked the C64 games better than most modern games. you can even say they had the first Christian coded games like the ULTIMA series. Too bad secularists got the company and destroyed the series.

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1. 21
2. I only took one class in visual BASIC in high school. Right now I'm just trying to learn Linux ( the command line) and also the configuration scripts as what little time I have allows. I don't know if this counts, but it does answer the question! )

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1. How old are you?
25

2. How long have you been coding?
On and off since I was 12

3. First computer Language
Basic

I am surprised as well of how young some are. I.e I thought HanClinto was at least 30.

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I'm 22.

I have been coding for around 12 years now. First language was shell scripting i suppose, but QBASIC solidly.

I'm competant in Python and currently code mainly in C/C++ for my Game Development Degree, so becoming pretty competant in that too.

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Warsong: There's never too many young people. Always more people for the older ones to teach. Think of what a headstart we'll have, and our next generation. We'll contantly be getting smarter, and quicker.

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Programming for the past 5 and a half years...
First Language: C/C++
I've been programming in C++ for the past 3 years (shifted around through a tonne of different languages but stuck with C/C++ ever since I started Uni). Now at work I code in a bit of C++ but mostly Unreal Script.

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Ereon

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I'm 17, been coding since I was 11 1/2, and my first language was BASIC (which I actually tried tinkering with when I accidentally ran across it when I was 6, but needless to say that didn't go over too well and I ended up ruining the versions of snake and gorilla that we had on our computer )

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You too, Ereon? Those poor abused Snake/Gorilla games. I gave myself like 50 lives so I could get through the harder levels.

But my editing seemed to have broke it somehow, unfortunately.

Man, that was a long time ago. Alas - where hath my life departed so yon quickly?

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get ye flask
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quote:
Originally posted by jestermax:
get ye flask

you can't get ye flask

InsanePoet

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quote:
Originally posted by jestermax:
get ye flask

But ye can't get ye flask. And you have to sit there and wonder why ye can't get ye flask.

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WOW! Hanclinto, we posted the same thing at the same time.

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*stares strangely at all of them*
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I'm 23 and have been coding in some form for 17 years, starting with ye olde BBC Basic. Depends if you count copying program listings out of BBC Micro User magazine as programming?

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how long i've been coding: i've dabbled with it for like 8 years, but really only about 6 months.

first language: started dabbling with visual basic 3, then 4, then 5, then 6, then really started learning something when i had a vb.net class(and realized how much fun programming could be!). now if i could just keep a *computer together long enough to do some serious work.

* ramming a magnetic screw driver into a mother board while trying to snap on a stubborn heatsink seems to have negative side effects on it's ability to work.

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Yowch. I'm sure it was the ramming more than the magnetism.

P.S. my spelling in my posts has gotten incredibly better since Firefox 2.0

EDIT: Just noticed andy's post

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if you count copying program listings out of BBC Micro User magazine as programming?

For me it was Computes Gazette. I still remember having my mom help me type in twenty pages of really cryptic basic to play a text adventure that took like 15 minutes to beat. It took us a week to type it all in.. I guess they weren't all good memories :P

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I'm 25, been coding for about 11 years. Started in GW Basic, then moved to C++ in high school. ^^

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Warsong: There's never too many young people. Always more people for the older ones to teach. Think of what a headstart we'll have, and our next generation. We'll contantly be getting smarter, and quicker.

Generation y... whY?. Tisk tisk
To teach you say? lol All I see is that it goes in one ear and out the other. I guess people need to be less wet behind the ear to listen better and understand to know what's going on.
Smarter? xaxaxaxaxaxa Smarter in "some" things maybe, wiser absolutely not. I posted about how the future will be which will be more like the book "Brave New World." http://www.christiancoders.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000881.html
Or maybe, if you want to look at the future in how people will think look at Paris Hilton. lol

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I think the most wisdom comes from age. After all, it was the previous generation that messed things up and taught their kids the way they did, yet now they see the light and don't understand why this generation doesn't either.

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Been coding for: 12 years, methinks, with breaks
First Language: BASIC. (something I have long forgotten)

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wisness comes from experience and smartness comes from practice.

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quote:
Originally posted by samw3:
Two questions:

1. How old are you?
2. How long have you been coding?
EDIT: 3. First computer Language


1. 41
2. Since I was 16
3. Technically I did a little in basic - but then I dove into 1802 MicroProcessor code

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Originally posted by warsong:
wow too many young people in here.

Paul to Timothy: "Let no man despise your youth" 1 Tim 4:12

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thanks steveth.

I know some people a lot younger than both you or me, warsong, who know not to say rude, stupid stuff like that, so I wonder exactly what you're talking about.

I'm 15.
I've been coding for about 3 years now.
Started with Blitz. but only a tiny, tiny, bit. so my first would really be C++.

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Woohoo, I Tim. 4:12, my favorite verse of all time and my primary rule to live by at college.

If you add the rest of it it's even better.

"Let no man despise your youth, but be an example of the believers in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, and in purity."
I Tim. 4:12

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quote:
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Generation y... whY?. Tisk tisk
To teach you say? lol All I see is that it goes in one ear and out the other. I guess people need to be less wet behind the ear to listen better and understand to know what's going on.
Smarter? xaxaxaxaxaxa Smarter in "some" things maybe, wiser absolutely not. I posted about how the future will be which will be more like the book "Brave New World." http://www.christiancoders.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000881.html
Or maybe, if you want to look at the future in how people will think look at Paris Hilton. lol


warsong, if you opened your eyes, some of youth can blow you away. I always found myself made a fool when I stereotyped a group of people.

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yeah i bet you'd like it if someone said something like "you can't teach an old dog new tricks".

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I'm 17, I started "coding" about 3 years ago. Simple stuff.

I doubt anyone here holds a high level of respect for me, so 17 probably sounds just about right to all of you.

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haha. "Or it could be one of those text based adventures for people with bigger imaginations...(skipping a little here)...So you have to sit there and imagine why in the world ye can't get ye flask.".

SB to the max.

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spade89

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hey me and Ereon have the same age i am 17 too,is there anyone else 17?

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Lava
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I'm 17 as well

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i think its awesome that we have a lot of young people on here. that means they are learning things now so by the time they are say, 30-40, they'll be geniuses.

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I am equally as glad to find some peers in the 30+ year old range. I was beginning to think I was supposed to fill the guru on the mountain role. :P

@kevryan you sure can do a LOT with 5k of tokenized basic when you don't have a gui to mess with.

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Ereon

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You don't HAVE to fill the old guru role Sam, but if you want to practice I'm sure I can find you a wet diaper and a handful of wet matches and a mountain top somewhere cold (like Ohio for instance) where you can practice if you REALLY want to .

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samw3

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hmm.. I think I'll let TwoBrothers and kevryan duke it out for the wet diaper since they both started on computers with less processing power than my watch. And besides, I live in the south cuz I can't take the cold.

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I have seven kids and have seen enough wet diapers to last a lifetime. I will graciously pass on the "wet diaper" role to someone else

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I have seven kids and have seen enough wet diapers to last a lifetime. I will graciously pass on the "wet diaper" role to someone else



Wow 7 kids my wife and I do Foster care but if you add all of them together (and we did not have them all at once) we have had 6 - one of which we adopted - so you have changed more diapers I bet

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Point proven again. lol
Yay more wiser people. I find the term old to be negative. In other languages when asked about age they don't say old after. Its a society that is pushing people not to listen to experienced people that are looking out for them but listen to the people that try to hurt them. Just like when the devil tempts eve to do what she wants and eat the apple than listen to God.

Mene
You see what I mean now? Lol no one listens or understand. They seem defensive always than being humble. Generation Y seem to do that a lot. Also you see the big snow ball affect of getting off topic. Itís so easy to push peopleís buttons here since many are not following the bible to be humble and feel offended by others opinions. Society is more hypersensitive and close minded to another opinion they see things bad a lot.

lava
ďI think the most wisdom comes from ageĒ Yes everything to a degree.

The odds are that you get more experience to be wiser but if a person doesnít use their brain then they canít be. I am not saying older people are better but the odds are if you do against someone twice you age then the odds are twice again you most of the times. Everyone is different but if you look at people as a whole these statistics apply. I even prove older people wrong, but the issues I talk about is what I deal with which they are inexperienced with certain issues. But in general despite that they have more experience them me as a whole than to a particular topic. Just because i know how to program a VCR better than a 80 year old doesn't mean I am wiser or smarter than them. You notice how they don't complain about your answer. lol

Simon
Who is talking about despising? I am stating a view.

Buddboy
Do you say you know the same as you did when you were 8? Obviously not, so I bet you will also admit that you get wiser when you are double you age. Lighten up; stop getting hysterical as you do all the time. Again LIGHTEN UP!

Ereon
Good for you, but you also have to be humble as the bible says.

Spade
ďwisness comes from experience and smartness comes from practiceĒ And you can get more of that though time if used properly.

Archangle
My speakers are on the Stereo types then the mono. Lol Fish swim, thatís stereo typical they can also walk if they wanted to, right? How about kids under 18 donít vote sine they are not experiences in political events, but that is silly and even invent something to let 3 year old babies vote as well. Or 5 years olds are just as tall at 25 year olds. The point is that donít let the exception be the case always.

Bwoogie
Lol that is funny

Sam
I know what you mean; it almost felt like a teen site when I showed up here. I say things and everything to them seems like new information. So many inexperienced people in here and the problem is that they are not humble enough.
As the saying goes everything to moderation.

NowÖ BACK TO TOPIC!

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oh and I suppose you are the epitome of humility? let's look up humility... oh hey, no picture of warsong next to it!! whaddya know?!

so? because you may be wiser with age proves nothing. other than that it hasn't worked with you, as we can all see. cuz I can't believe that you were ever more stupid than you are now.

you can't go and say something idiotic like "we have too many young people". how about I say we have too many warsongs on here, 1.

you know, I almost, almost don't know why I'm so upset about this. I should have expected it from you. i mean, you can spout racist crap, why not spout crap about people's ages too?

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I think its worth stating that I agree with warsong. Wisdom comes with age, intelligence comes with practice, knowledge comes with experience and instruction.

Why is this so hard for you guys to accept? You may be the "smartest" kid in your class, but what are we talking about here? Intelligence? Wisdom? Knowledge?
A person who can not think logically is not intelligent, but they may have a great memory and therefor are incredibly knowledgeable.

A person of great intelligence may lack wisdom, as he will inevitably make mistakes at least once. Only those with the experience coming from age can see the potential mistake coming again, and avoid it.

I could go on, but if you fellow "young people" are as smart as you claim to be, I don't have to.

By the way, saying something like "I was reading at 2 and I have a post high school reading level" means nothing. Maybe on the playground where you're king nerd among your friends, but not on the internet. There is always somebody with more knowledge, somebody far more intelligent, and undoubtedly somebody much wiser

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oh and I suppose you are the epitome of humility? let's look up humility... oh hey, no picture of warsong next to it!! whaddya know?!

Ah. I see what you mean by buttons now.

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I think its worth stating that I agree with warsong. Wisdom comes with age, intelligence comes with practice, knowledge comes with experience and instruction.


I agree with both of you.

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Why is this so hard for you guys to accept?


Ego, pride, or most likely human nature (no offense ment, btw).

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I donít come here posting about me, I come here to state another side to the story to make people think things out. If you havenít noticed already I donít talk about myself which is why I didnít post my age. :P I could be 20 years old as well, or 40 or 80. I try to say the other side of the story. If you say black I say while, if you say white I say black.

Since when did young become a 4 letter word? What I said was a fact, that there are a lot of young people in here. Sheesh people are so insecure in todayís society. But people are made to be like this so itís expected. Itís also easy to push peoples buttons when you know where the buttons are since you can read them like a childrenís book.

You should come up with something acute to say bBOY, like Steve did to quote the bible but he is older which is why he came up with it. But I guess you need to be wiser to know a few more things. As I said itís easy to press buttons since you are not acting humble enough. In the end you should say thank you and be on your way. If you persist to act the way you do I will press your buttons more since you not me are asking for it.

You spout more PC, racist, discrimination, crap but you donít see me complain. You donít agree but again I donít point everything out in what you say and also you donít pay attention, but eventually as the song goesÖ ďtime, is on my side, yes it isĒ

Itís easy to predict how you will act sometimes, so try not to let other push your buttons since you can go out of control. Or would you prefer listening to an 8 year old for advice than me? Lol Also Just say no to drugsÖ coffee has caffeine and thus used as a drug. CPUfreak was humble enough to listen to some experts than be on the defensive about coffee. I am still shocked that some teens drink coffee like water. Even people donít listen to experts since people think they know it all, just like how everyone thinks they are great drivers. lol

Too bad Lazarus has been slightly corrupted by some here lol he is too loose and says more and more crazy things unlike the first time he was here. He knows it as well that he steps over the line sometimes. I assume he listens to his dad, even though he says I remind him of his dad in what I say sometimes and wonder if I am his dad under cover. Which I don't know why he says that sometimes. :O

If people deny everything a wiser(experienced/older)person says or a person that is is a professional in the issues ALL THE TIME then what does that leave people? to their own devices and people cant live long enough and are not immortal to learn form all their mistakes since some can be fatal.
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Also someone asked about the hippies in a way that they are older and look what they did? Well yeah look what they did, it says honor mother and father and they didn't want to listen to elders.

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ok this conversation has gotten out of hand and is now into an argument. It started out as a thread for people to say how old they are and where they got started. Just because someone started early, doesn't mean they have magical abilities and it doesn't necessarily impact their skills right now. Anyone boasting wisdom, intelligence or whatever else obviously is short on it. Let OTHERS tell you that you're pro when you prove it to them. And for a reminder, this isn't a green light for everyone to start trying to show off how much they know, we have more than enough of that already...
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First Language: Basic on an 8k Wang computer (3k was operating system - leaving 5k for the code)

You are about my brother's age and he wrote stuff on some old Wang computer too. Tape storage. I wonder if it was the same type of computer.

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Just a quick word guys, don't turn this thread into a flaming thread argueing back and forth, everyone try to stay on topic or this thread will most likely be closed.

I am 19
Programming (what little I can do) for about 2 years
Dabbled in C++ for a bit, learning Java for a credit in College right now, just for fun.

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Wow Max! I didn't know you were learning Java.

Age: 21
Programming: 7 years
First Language: C++ and ASM/Basic on my TI-86 calculator...

It surprised me to see how many people started with basic. Even some of the more experienced folk. I guess that shows how solid the language is.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone here programmed with punch cards? I think that would be torture...

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Java is awesome eh max? if you have any problems with it, i can probably help i'm what you would call "The Duke of Java" lol
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Wow - this thread is starting to get me wanting to boot up C++ again.
(I've been on a little hiatus for the past few months)

There's that old saying - "Age before beauty".

Would you rather be older and smarter and... uglier , or younger and dumber and more handsome?

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Too bad Lazarus has been slightly corrupted by some here lol he is too loose and says more and more crazy things unlike the first time he was here. He knows it as well that he steps over the line sometimes. I assume he listens to his dad, even though he says I remind him of his dad in what I say sometimes and wonder if I am his dad under cover. Which I don't know why he says that sometimes. :O

Too true, Warsong.

I blame Arch and Ereon in particular...

(And when I said you might be my Dad under cover, I was joking. )

Max

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Wow, heh, I'll definately ask if I need help with the Java or in the class. Nice to hear from you again Heard, heh, long time no see. We should hang out again sometime soon.

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i'm 15, been coding for about 3 years.
Started (slowly) with a little bit of c++, then switched to java, and now i'm even further down the language food chain to blitzMax :P

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On a downhill slide, eh Dx?
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hehe yeah i don't think i could go any further down than BM. It was just kind of annoying how slow it was to do stuff with java and especially c++, so i decided to go simple. Then again, blitzmax has a lot of limitations, but oh well at least i get things done, quick 'n dirty

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1. I'm 38.
2. About 4 years, 24 years ago. Another year or two in college. And recently re-started one year ago.
3. BASIC

Apple II+, Apple IIe, TRS80

One of the first things I did was to write a program that made a picture of a rose, pixel by pixel.

10 HCOLOR = 6
20 HPLOT 130, 200
30 HPLOT 131, 201
40 HPLOT 131, 202

etc.

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One of the first things I did was to write a program that made a picture of a rose, pixel by pixel.

10 HCOLOR = 6
20 HPLOT 130, 200
30 HPLOT 131, 201
40 HPLOT 131, 202

etc.


I hope she appreciated it.

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jestermax

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heh, i should show you guys a pic of a rose i made for my gf. It's made out of red and green electrical tape with a bit of wire for the stem. i hand made each peddal individually
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Actually BB is lower down than BM. Anytime Dx... (Goes back to new C++ coding from his uphill walk from BB to BM to C++.)

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heh, i should show you guys a pic of a rose i made for my gf. It's made out of red and green electrical tape with a bit of wire for the stem. i hand made each peddal individually

Is that why she won't answer your calls anymore?

j/k

jestermax

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yeah
Lazarus

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Maybe if you gave her a Daisy made out of duct tape...
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i've made other types of flowers out of tape. i used to use colored paper but that fades after a while. with electrical tape you get a smooth, easy to use medium that's water proof and doesn't fade . duct tape has threading in it so it makes it annoying to work with when you want detail and it doesn't look that great up close.
Lazarus

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Did you ever make one made out of cassette tape?
kevryan
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Yep, the Wang computer had a tape drive - same size tapes as music cassettes. It was at my High School. It had no graphics and if I remember correctly the screen was 40x24 and only allowed ASCII characters on it.

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and if I remember correctly the screen was 40x24 and only allowed ASCII characters on it.


Wow. 40x24 would take up roughly 1/30th of my screen.

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Lazarus

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You run 1280X728, CPU? Wow - that's really a widescreen monitor.
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You run 1280X728, CPU? Wow - that's really a widescreen monitor.

1280x1024, (I did say "roughly" )

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I'm 26 years old. My first programming experience was in qbasic, where I wrote a little vocab quiz game using all of our 8th grade vocab words up to that point in the school year.

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SSquared

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Yep, the Wang computer had a tape drive -

Yep. Sounds the same. This was at high school too. No graphics, but my brother figured out a way to redraw the screen. He came up with a way to have the ASCII characters appear to move around the screen (by redrawing the screen and moving the ASCII characters) and so he created a Sub Hunt game. From there, his friends started creating computer games.

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Tonnyx: I did the same, but for me it was the states, and their capitals, I did 4 modes, Learning Random, Learning Sequentially, Quiz Random, Quiz Sequentially. Worked rather nice.

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