As bad as Michael Richard (Kramer) that has been on the news for his comments, and I think that the actors that people involved in the movie like Happy Feet are far worse. You have Elijah Wood as the main character in this movie as he was in Lord of the rings. But the Movie LOTR was a Christian theme and they put people that hate Christianity in it like the guy that played the wizard which he is proud homosexual and then played in the daVinci code attacking Christianity and Christians. The character he played in lord of the ring if is that the Wizards are considered angels of god and not humans but they edited that comment out and many other Christian themes to distort JR Tokens original meanings. It’s like having a wolf dress up in sheep’s clothing. Many of the people involved seem to be anti-Christian and the ones that are Christians should be excommunicated lol

The movie Happy feet is rated as rude Humor and has some sexual content but still is considered a kids movie lol.
Here are some reviews from other Christians from another site
But a few reviews say some negative things like Michael Medved ""..painfully unpleasant to watch..". Medved added that "..frightening elements [in the film] will terrify young viewers.." and "..there's nothing happy about Happy Feet.""
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20061129/cm_usatoday/preschoolersandpenguinspropagandapawns

"Here are a few examples of how they slam Christianity:
1. The great penguin in the sky sets the tone with a Christ like cross
2. The man who everyone goes to for wisdom is supposed to be a prophet who speaks to the almighty (except we realize he is a fraud)
3. The leader of the penguins is a pastor-like figure who literally speaks hell and condemnation
4. The entire subplot is how Christians are un-accepting of anything different than them, and how we will not allow someone into our church who has an alternative lifestyle. The character in the movie who the leadership of the fold is harshly against, is the penguin with Happy Feet. He dances instead of sings, therefore they look the other way every time he is around. There is even one point where they say to him “Repent and Turn” and then they kick him out of the fold for his evil ways. Yes, this is a HUGE pro-homosexual agenda and is not accidental.
5. About 16 other reference to how bad Christians area: Continues mocking, jokes and jabs."
"There is one scene where a Penguin implies he is going to have sex with 3 girls during mating season"
"The religious leaders are made to look more like vultures than penguins. They are the “bad guys” who are intolerant of “different” people. One “religious” leader is mocked as being fraud and having a harem. The penguin religion is made to be irrational and is verbally pointed out in the movie."

You also see other stories for kids that are political propaganda that attacks Christians and encourages homosexuality. So many Politically correct things are being pushed in society and we can see the affects even from many people young and old in this Christian forum, since Christian or not people get affected even though they do not feel they are affected. This movie is falsely advertising, which many Christians support people that do anti Christian things especially people in CCN. lol

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Whether or not I agree with the "message" behind the movie, intentionally influencing children is wrong. I have no idea if it tries to, I havn't seen the movie, I'm just putting my opinion out there.

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[This message has been edited by crazyishone (edited December 01, 2006).]

Lets say the movie does have the theme you say, for the sake of argument, for a moment. Whats wrong with targeting kids as people to sway in the way of religion? Dont christians do this CONSTANTLY? Any kid around any christian are told constantly how bad people are that dont conform to that christians specific interpretation of the bible. And thats fine? Yet someone with a different opinion tries to influence the kid otherwise, and you say its wrong/horrible. Grow up. How many films out there portray christianity in a positive light? especially childrens movies!?!? Id say christianity has nothing to worry about with Happy Feet.

For a person to really say they became christian on there own terms, theyd have to be not influenced by christians to do so. Children should be shwon both sides to every conflict, and to come out with their own opinions.

If your child grows up to be atheist, will you disown him/her? A lot of poeple just dont believe, and I don't blame them. This is a fair and just outlook on child influence. If the child is meant to be christian, they will sway to the ways of christianity anyhow, eventually.

And, having seen the movie, I hardly noticed the tone being a mockery of christianity. Its nothing extreme. the kids dont think about that, they think..."ooh, funny penguin dances, haha"...and not..."oooh, the penguin is challenging his society for what he believes in"...lol. kids wont get it.

I'm not saying I agree with warsong, but even if you don't understand something it can still be an influence. If you have fun killing monsters in FPS's and don't understand why, it doesn't mean that spending 4 hours a day doing that won't affect you.

Welcome to CCN!

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[This message has been edited by Mene-Mene (edited July 27, 2007).]

You may or may not notice that underneath Warsong's name is the title "unregistered" -- that means that he no longer has an account here, as he was banned a few months back. We don't often ban here, but we'll do it in appropriate cases.

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Originally posted by darwinfish:
And, having seen the movie, I hardly noticed the tone being a mockery of christianity. Its nothing extreme. the kids dont think about that, they think..."ooh, funny penguin dances, haha"...and not..."oooh, the penguin is challenging his society for what he believes in"...lol. kids wont get it.

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Back to your point about "kids dont think about that, they think...'ooh, funny penguine dances, haha'" -- perhaps on some levels that's true. But kids are pretty smart, and pick up on a lot of things that we wouldn't necessarily expect them to. We can't be perfectly ignorant of the world view behind the content that we ingest, or feed to our children. The world view behind a work of art certainly shines through, and gives us an impression of how that person views the world. It seems debatable and subjective as to how much viewers (in particular, children) ingest the other viewpoints without due processing.

If I had kids of the appropriate age, I don't know that I would forbid my kids to watch this movie -- if they did want to see it (or indeed any movie), I would hope that we could talk about it and use it as a learning experience for other ways that people view the world.

Again, welcome to the boards!

Respectfully,
clint

just wanna lay something out for you. this is a dead topic.
warsong (who actually was a registered user) left by now.
nobody here will defend that post; nobody really agreed with him.

but, just to give you something argue about (no fun otherwise):

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Whats wrong with targeting kids as people to sway in the way of religion? Dont christians do this CONSTANTLY?

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Any kid around any christian are told constantly how bad people are that dont conform to that christians specific interpretation of the bible.

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I've never seen Happy Feet on account that it looks mind numbingly boring, but I will say that Kids pick up on the little things. They're job, in a sense, is to watch the world around them and adapt. They are extremely receptive. An interesting subject, actually, but it's getting off topic.
Do I think Happy Feet is bad? I doubt it. I, and others, just chalked it up to another of warsong's rant.

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I reserve the full right to change my views/theories at any time.

Its amazing how he can still manage to troll after being banned.

lol.

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Originally posted by HanClinto:
I don't know that I would forbid my kids to watch this movie

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And does your wife know about these "children of the clint" that you allowing to see movies???? (hee hee)

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Originally posted by samw3:
Woah.. the ghost of warsong speaks from beyond the grave..

Its amazing how he can still manage to troll after being banned.

lol.

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I was totally just thinkin' the same thing!

In movies people might or might not be actively trying to sway children (or others) to sinful ways, but if such swaying happens, even without the movie-makers' knowledge, they are still guilty of swaying those others into sin. This is precisely why, in Luke 17:3a Jesus admonishes His disciples, "So watch yourselves!" (NIV)

Certainly, most movie-makers are merely trying to entertain while pulling in a profit, and don't even consider such things. But that does not remove their guilt; neither does their ignorance excuse them (Leviticus 4).

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