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"To Jon The Best QA Tester and Coder there is, period! David Lancaster Lead Developer"

I'm amazed at how detailed Axys Adventures is for an Indie game, and for the small team and timeline. Really a blessed game and a very blessed person David YOU ROCK I sooo totally can't wait for Orion.. and the *other* projects to come

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I'm still waiting for Orion, you know... had an eye on that thing for years. years, I say.

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played some of the game, and I was pleasantly surprised. I just liked seeing axys run around with the shield and sword on his back.

I'm still waiting for Orion, you know... had an eye on that thing for years. years, I say.

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don't shave, Mack. it's hot. lol.

a pic of me and axys... orion...hmmmm...

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[This message has been edited by ArchAngel (edited November 26, 2006).]

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should be a link right on the CCN showcase.

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don't shave, Mack. it's hot. lol.

a pic of me and axys... orion...hmmmm...

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I am very scared now--the esurance chick is one thing--but mack???

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Which is this link:

http://dev.rebelplanetcreations.com/downloads/AxysDemoInstall.exe

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Team Kaizen owns all!

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HECK YES!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL thanks for the link David I am downloading it right now!

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don't shave, Mack. it's hot. lol.

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I am very scared now--the esurance chick is one thing--but mack???

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Actually the game looks like a really high quality DreamCast game (which isn't as dated as that might sound) so it actually looks very advanced for being indie---so did I hear from Mack right that you made that pretty much by yourself? That is incredible dude

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Haha, Dreamcast wuz teh bomb.

But seriously, it was a great console, sad to see it end

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Do you know if they are they supposed to be at Family Christian yet?

Hilarious.

So... what is that game anyway?

(And Don't throw me off a cliff for not knowing what it is, I game on consoles being that my PC is a POC)

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Oh boy! I want to be on the Axys bandwagon!

Do you know if they are they supposed to be at Family Christian yet?

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Just remember Clint, take a photo of you and the game!

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that's actually a demon hunter poster, I believe.

that band rocks.

hey! played the demo. looks pretty fun. I've been wanting to get the game. Do you know if there is a place where you can buy it online?

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that post was really cool ^
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Seems like a good plan, eh?

(No, I'm not Canadaian (Too many a's?))

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Rebel Planet
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Cactus Game design
www.cactusgamedesign.com

There's more I just can't remember

At least the art was fine to show off on the box art.
I hope some people like it and the people that made it get some money back.

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The controls were another issue. Did the control pad go out of style? Honestly I got annoyed.

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If you have a XBox 360 Controller for Windows try using this joystick profile I made for Axys:

http://www.gameace.org/~common/Demos/Axys.pin

http://www.gameace.org/~common/Demos/pinnacle-setup.exe

(BTW, please nobody say "but you can't do that in real life", real life doesn't always work too well for games. I'd say the camera was fine.)

I believe that the hype is all about someone coming in from left field and releasing a pretty decent christian game. Sure, compared to the Next-Gen current platformers it might be down on graphics (however still pretty awesome graphics in my opinion), the gameplay is soo close to being all there. All in all, a good game. Definately not my cup of tea either.

I hope David and the rest of RPC get a wad of cash from it To make better and better games

Ps. David, you already know this but, if you need me for anything let me know (preferably coding... lol).

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Darts
Devil May cry, Prince of Persia, Zelda, etc games had better controls and the obstacles were much harder but much simper to maneuver since they made the camera and control well. I don’t know what game you compared it to. You can’t be kind when you are supposed to be critical of something. Even if you love the game you still have to be the harshest critic. Since you tested it didn’t you suggest having an option for people to reposition the camera? Even Super Mario 64 had that option and that game old but gave you the basic controls which even professional games do not follow at times. It’s hard to believe you tested it and you say it’s not your type of game lol Well what is your type of game? Maybe you should have given your constructive criticism so that it is closer to be your type of game lol.

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[This message has been edited by Gump (edited December 02, 2006).]

Do you even know how many people worked on the game code for Axys? And no, I didn't actually suggest having an option to reposition the camera (it was fine). And yeah, there is always things you can critic about games (every game actually), but when I'm told to test specific things I will test those, or to move on when told to. Features or updates to a game have to be stopped at one point or a rather, and there will always be things that 'could have been done better' or 'could have added this or that'.

And no, I didn't 'love' the game. There were many a times when I had to walk away from it as it got pretty hard (there was no difficultly setting in the beta). I just think that there was a lot of good stuff actually done in the game. Also that just because you think you might get sick from the camera movement, you shouldn't be so harsh. I had no worries, and I'm pretty certain that no-one (unless they have problems with motion sickness) would actually feel sick from the camera movement.

Beta Testing is different from QA Testing. QA comes on a lot earlier then Beta I actually applied for a QA job at Auran (on the Fury project), I didn't end up getting the job, although would have if another person didn't accept (the manager actually told me that).

Who ever said it's controls were ment to 'feel as good' as Mario or Zelda?

Gump
I actually thought their camera system was one of the best so far (when you look at it as a whole). They did very very nice depth of view and camera movement which seems to bring you into the action. The crouch run was very very sweet especially how it brings the camera down behind the character and the depth of view.

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I don't see much comment in this post on what's so great about it anyway.

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It's not without it's problems, no game is, Mario Sunshine isn't, and it redid 64's problems. Camera and control problems are something every platformer developer deals with, I know this from working on Joe 3D Beta.

To me, I think it's cool to see a high quality Christian game, that it's proof that Christian gaming is progressing. When you start out with hacked games like Spiritual Warfare for the NES and Noah's Ark 3D for SNES, you tend to be a little more thankful for games like Axys.

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Simple things like being able to control/reposition the camera control

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You haven't mentioned anything yet that wasn't mentioned by anyone before. I'm probably the game's worst silent critic, I can see a billion things that could have been done better. That's what you learn from and try to do better, with limited resources it's not always possible...If you believe anything needs to be said say it, I doubt you would be capable of shocking me if you can honestly look at the game and point out what could be improved. The only thing is, good luck pointing out something I don't already know :P

frankly, the Prince of Persia camera was more problematic for me. I like it simple and straightforward.

my bug notice on demo, tho:
after loading screen, when it says "hit any key to continue" or something, if you click to mouse, the hitting a key won't let it continue. all's left is to kill the game and start again.

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"Lego Starwars 2" for the DS. Man, there are issues. I really don't see what the issue is. I'm only taking it as your view, and thats your 'style' of games you like to play.

Really, there are no issues with the camera system and movement. David is even nice enough to make your character transparent when it starts to obstruct :|

Good Work there David

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Sorry to say this but this game is not good in my opinion, so I don't know what the hype is about. I don't see much comment in this post on what's so great about it anyway.

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It's the best Christian game released within the last 2 years.

I enjoy the playful graphics, characters, music, voice acting and that it has some action involved.

I think it looks great, and If I had an even mildy crappy comp I would get it!

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It's the best Christian game released within the last 2 years.

I enjoy the playful graphics, characters, music, voice acting and that it has some action involved.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OiiLqjcYfQ&eurl=

Who ever made that is a genius of all geniuses! Masterpiece

I don’t know if you read my post about how to make a game addicting to be more compelling and fun but it sure needed some things. How long did the game take to be made? Well one thing I should ask since people bring up this excuse is what do big budget games offer that you guys couldn’t do unlike a big company?

Sure some games have bad cameras but non are as bad as this one. Maybe unreal tournament when it doesn’t have enough power to play it goes choppy which can cause motion sickness as well but that only needs a better computer to prevent that.

Ok some tips would be to look at other games and as bad as super Mario 64 say it is, it is still far better. To put a zoom in and out would help since the camera is too close to the character, have it that you can rotate the camera around the person to reposition it. if some people don’t like it good for them but at least it gives an option for others since not everyone will love the default view. And even if the camera is considered the best view by some then fine but at least have it that there is a delay in moving so that it doesn’t move abruptly but smoothly or slower. Do you move your video camera that quickly when when turning or do you see that kind of abrupt movement on TV, movies, or other peoples video? Try moving your head that fast in real life all the time and your neck will hurt or get a headache lol. Maybe you wanted it that way to feel like action but you could have done some other thing to make it feel more action by other little things to make cutting the grass in the game more fun. So in other words the camera is spastic and very loose. Tweaking the game can be just as important as the game itself.

So in the end if people like it or not its best to give people an option and that fixed view and fixed controls. Maybe Gump is right to be able to use a controller but that option should in the game or at least with the game than for people to look for it. Also you have to be your harshest critic to see big or small issues early on.

Good luck

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The amazing Nick known as our Lava made it! Very awesome

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I thought this movie was hilarious!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OiiLqjcYfQ&eurl=

Who ever made that is a genius of all geniuses! Masterpiece

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The amazing Nick known as our Lava made it! Very awesome

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Really? That's impressive.

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I think I can come up with more issues that you didn’t think of lol, but obviously you know enough as you say. Didn’t you think the puzzle was annoying as well? Shouldn’t like a simple example be shown or less boxes for a warm up? Was it necessary to put a black hole even though you continue from the base floor? Death and a kids game does not look go well so why not just let the guy fall and let the player climb up again. No fun to move the camera while doing an obstacle course. Couldn’t you put some flare in the attack, and isn’t the jumping and a bit to flashy for a simple jump? Also to battle weeds and putting on a full battle armor that seems that can defend you against an axe seems a bit over done, but it is odd how such armor can defend against weeds spitting at you. But I did find the idea of shield being a holster for a sword original.

I have no more comments since it’s been 2 days since I tried it out and I forget most things in the game. Lol

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I was curious about which controls you're using, if you use the mouse the speed at which the camera moves is based on how quickly you move the mouse so I don't see how the camera movement could be made slower when the player uses the mouse. If you use the cursor keys to turn the player it is sickening but you're meant to use the mouse. So I'm at a loss to see how that sort of camera is sickening if you're using the mouse and not the cursor keys...Also the speed at which the camera turns and the speed at which the player turns with the cursor keys is all controlled with the mouse sensitivity value in options. You can control the zoom of the camera by using home/end, and backspace for default.

Try the camera in this demo:
http://www.coniserver.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/707960/an/0/page/0#Post707960

By all means if there is anyway you could contribute some camera/movement code which has the smoothness you speak of it would be greatly appreciated.

As for example try out some other 3d games with that view and see the difference. Other 3d games have it that you have reset camera button that positions the camera behind the player, and when you face the opposite way the camera does not jump behind the place but faces him. If the player turn left and right it smoothly turns.

No I don’t have code but how long would it have taken you anyway? As they say first impression counts and for me to fumble with the controls or the non existent controls is not a good first impression.

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Thanks guys! I appreciate this, I am truly honored

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If you're up for it take a photo of some clay dudes, one named Mr Twinkly the other Sir Sparkles and make them argue over something minuscule whilst a copy of Axys sits in the background!!!!! :P :P :P Then later you can take a photo of yourself holding Axys how cool would that be??!!?? :P

I'm jk

1. I liked the control placement on the keyboard (WASD, Space and Ctrl) although if I were left handed it would seem awkward trying to reach the spacebar.
2. I did not like how the mouse turned the character. It took me a while to get used to how it worked. Part of it could have been my fault, as I use a track-ball mouse, not a regular mouse.
3. I LOVE the graphics!!!!
4. General gameplay (minus my learning curve with the camera and turning) was very good and executed nicely.
5. The voice acting was very good.
6. I LOVED watching the credits! That was awesome!

Not that you asked for anyone to test the game nor my personal opinion, but here it is

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As I said the controls was all over the place. I can't use the mouse and move forward and jump at the same time comfortable and smoothly. So you say move the camera/player direction with the mouse (use right hand), move the character forward with they keyboard (use left hand), make the character jump by pressing space bar or whatever the button was (use left foot) lol. Also I don't remember now but maybe you had it but did your character have stride sideways, to be able to stride and turning around an object while always facing it?

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Here is an example of a better control on the keyboard to use the number pad and use button 1 and 3 to stride left and right and 4 and 6 to turn.
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Use all 3 mouse buttons for something attack, sword out, and jump. And arrow keys to move.
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Use arrows to move and have buttons next to it like ctrl, shirt, insert.
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Use Gump’s or this program to play with a controller which can greatly help. But I have not tried Gump’s link since I don’t want to install more things in my pc for no reason. Also I didn’t try this for the game sicne I wanted to see how it was as it is.
http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key/JoyToKey%20English%20Version.htm
You have to select what keys it is assigned on the keyboard. Select the controller button and choose which key it is associated to on the key board.

If someone puts that in to use a controller then their should be more buttons like how most games use at least 10 buttons for a modern day game and had in sue for the last 10 years.
You can have the controller be that you have the direction dap top move, to hold a shoulder button to stride, another shoulder button to hold to reposition camera from person, have a button for attack, jump, walk, option, and have the remaining 4 buttons do something like reposition the camera to default, have a second attack, use an item, etc.

Well its good that the game got reviewed well, and David should post in other Christian sites to get some more people and help and put some adds up when they get more money since Christmas is coming up and he better act soon. I would not get it but he should not feel bad since I don’t like most games anyway and am a harsh critic lol. But I don understand why some games sell well and some do not since there are many basic small things that are missing. Kind of like a door handle to a car is not the main reason you buy a car but if there is no handle at all then no one will buy it since they can’t get in the car. Lol

All in all I think the game is in a good direction and I can’t wait to see the next few games that come out.

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Here is an example of a better control on the keyboard to use the number pad and use button 1 and 3 to stride left and right and 4 and 6 to turn.
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Use all 3 mouse buttons for something attack, sword out, and jump. And arrow keys to move.
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Use arrows to move and have buttons next to it like ctrl, shirt, insert.

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FPS's use WASD and mouse.. similar to pretty much every 3rd person game! People actually use the mouse now days. Do you play FPS's? Do you know what FPS stands for?

Oh sure, some people might not like it, but then I wonder what other games of the exact same controller scheme they don't like. There are plenty of Top Named Games which use the similar, if not the same, control scheme.

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Like the saying goes “all thumbs” lol Who plays with their thumbs in an action game?

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Me, on the Nintendo DS, Playstation, pretty much all consoles?! The controllers are setup so that you play using your thumbs... Sure, figure of speech, but have you ever played a Console game before?? LOL

I'd like to see you do something better!? have you ever worked on any released game? Christian or non christian. It sounds like we should be taking your advise, especially David, and making the game because you have some 'all knowing' experience or the like. Possibly try get off your 'high horse' and make a christian game which is published, and up to the standard which David HAS!! Whatever your issue is, I think you should drop it while you are behind!

Sure there are some things that could have been done better, but that happens in ALL games. But really, since you've posted you have brought this thread down. It was just about us who have a copy of the game having fun and promoting Axys Adventures!

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How about trying not to critic a game?? Maybe you might find some enjoyment from it...

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Timelines, schedules, deadlines... A game must be stopped and the release is normally always set in stone. It's a big thing to move the release date of a game.

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Kind of like a door handle to a car is not the main reason you buy a car but if there is no handle at all then no one will buy it since they can’t get in the car. Lol

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Except I fear that you'd complain about the steering wheel... Just because it wasn't what 'your' used to.

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Using your thumbs on a keyboard for an action game is one thing using it for a controler is another. :P

You say all games have wasd for a control but not all and they all have it that you can set your own control, which this game forbids you to do. Maybe I should have hacked the game to change the controls lol.

Also name one game that uses that exact kind of camera view and control on a console like PSX or N64? I know that GTA, tomb raider, Zelda didn't have it. The camera is almost like a 1st person view movement even though it's 3rd person.

Just because I don't like it does not mean others will not, but it does mean that their are others that will not. But in general I think David did a good even though I wont play it.

Price of person sands of time has decent controls and camera to be able to run on walls to jump off and bounce on the wall to then grab a pole to do few spin flips on a more poles to land and balance yourself on a spank and keep steady while jumping over enemy attacks and falling down to grab on the ledge to grab more enemies. Could be more action packed and challenging but that's my type of games and I don't get easily amused. they should have put more in it to use the time option better like fast forward, pause, etc.

Well in the end I think people should try before they buy, just like every game that is out. I wonder if the game will get good reviews on sites like EGM, gamespot, etc.
Anyway I wouldn't have replied before if you didn't reply with your silly comments. :P

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So your largest complaint isn't so much the buttons but the camera system. Perhaps for the sequel David could add the option to switch between camera modes.

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Dart
You are starting to get annoying. lol Do you want to challenge me is that it, then I challenge you to a game of chess. But if you know of a free online action game where I can take you on then ok to that too lol kidding :P If you like the game keep playing it, I am not stopping you. Or do you want me to? lol But I will not challenge you in a game of darts since I get the feeling you might be good in that. lol

Using your thumbs on a keyboard for an action game is one thing using it for a controler is another. :P

You say all games have wasd for a control but not all and they all have it that you can set your own control, which this game forbids you to do. Maybe I should have hacked the game to change the controls lol.

Also name one game that uses that exact kind of camera view and control on a console like PSX or N64? I know that GTA, tomb raider, Zelda didn't have it. The camera is almost like a 1st person view movement even though it's 3rd person.

Just because I don't like it does not mean others will not, but it does mean that their are others that will not. But in general I think David did a good even though I wont play it.

Price of person sands of time has decent controls and camera to be able to run on walls to jump off and bounce on the wall to then grab a pole to do few spin flips on a more poles to land and balance yourself on a spank and keep steady while jumping over enemy attacks and falling down to grab on the ledge to grab more enemies. Could be more action packed and challenging but that's my type of games and I don't get easily amused. they should have put more in it to use the time option better like fast forward, pause, etc.

Well in the end I think people should try before they buy, just like every game that is out. I wonder if the game will get good reviews on sites like EGM, gamespot, etc.
Anyway I wouldn't have replied before if you didn't reply with your silly comments. :P

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You are starting to get annoying. lol Do you want to challenge me is that it, then I challenge you to a game of chess. But if you know of a free online action game where I can take you on then ok to that too lol kidding :P If you like the game keep playing it, I am not stopping you. Or do you want me to? lol But I will not challenge you in a game of darts since I get the feeling you might be good in that. lol

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Same said about you... although you have already annoyed me. Why would I want to challenge you?? So far you sound like a 12 year old newbie (immediately saying things like 'do you want to challenge me', then onto 'maybe I should have hacked the game', relatively childish..)... Darts, names can be deceiving. Warsong, does that mean you like war songs??
I just don't like you saying a lot of what you said as you totally pulled down this thread. How about you go buy Axys, and then take a picture of yourself holding it, and post it?! Actually be apart of this thread, not the 'other guy' to the side...

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Maybe next time you could be a bit clearer??

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None... because the Camera in Axy was controlled by the mouse, you can actually get a mouse for the PSX, but people only use it for RTS type games (Such as C&C Red Alert). HOWEVER, for the camera scheme, Ratchet and Clank, Ty the Tasmanian Tiger, GTA (except for console they included lock-on), Resident Evil, most car games use a 'chase' camera, they also have other options for other views such as front bumper, cabin, and a more distant chase camera.

It's called a 3rd person 'chase' camera, if you didn't already know. It's a very common camera scheme which is used for 3rd person games. Sometimes people add a 'drift' to it as well, so that it smoothly glides to the 'destination' spot (where the mouse thinks it is at). I've created several for different projects, a similar style one even for an Internship I had at Auran as a Programmer, also one for my final game project at College.

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The Axys Adventures one?? How long did you play it?? Did you talk up to a walk and notice how it scaled back? Did you notice how the player actually starts fading out when the player is obstructing the view (due to the distance from the player to the camera)?? Do you even know how to make a camera system? Would you have the faintest clue as to what a Quaternion is? Or why you would use a Quaternion over Euler Angles or a Matrix??

Sure, it is a bit quick, but there is still a bit of a drift (if I recall correctly). Did you know you can actually change the speed of your mouse (on your system). As you might find that you've setup your mouse speed too fast, and then the camera might seem erratic or too fast for you...

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You say all games have wasd for a control but not all and they all have it that you can set your own control, which this game forbids you to do. Maybe I should have hacked the game to change the controls lol.

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Could you really 'hack' the game? Or is that a script kiddie talking?? I'm guessing you don't have too much 'experience' in that sort of stuff... am I wrong?

BTW, pretty much all FPS's (to which I directed to comment) use the WASD controls. And also a _LOT_ of 3rd person. A lot or really lame ones have tried to use the Arrow keys, but when combined with the mouse controlling the camera, you can't 'effectively' use the Arrow Keys (especially when there are things such as shooting or jumping (as with shooting normally requires reloading, and so that is typically 'R', it 'fits in' with the WASD controls, and jumping is typically the Space Bar)).

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Price of person sands of time has decent controls and camera to be able to run on walls to jump off and bounce on the wall to then grab a pole to do few spin flips on a more poles to land and balance yourself on a spank and keep steady while jumping over enemy attacks and falling down to grab on the ledge to grab more enemies. Could be more action packed and challenging but that's my type of games and I don't get easily amused. they should have put more in it to use the time option better like fast forward, pause, etc.

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Do you mean Prince of Persia? Anywho, yeah sure, it seems pretty cool. Never played it, just don't have the time. 'They should have put more in it'... And there’s the winner, are you actually ever content with any game? Have you played through a game and thought, "wow, that was a pretty good game", and not turned back around saying 'they should have done this' or 'they should have done that'? You will realize very quickly if and when you get into the games industry that features are cut, games have normally been in development for a long time and have progressed through many stages.

For me the GTA series was pretty cool. Especially the last one (for PC, San Andreas). I could really see that it was pretty much everything that they had wanted ever since GTA 1. Commandos BTCOD and BEL (old 2d strategy games) which were some others I found as absolutely brilliant game. Oh and Codename Eagle (old 3d game), that was pretty cool too... Sort of like the original Battlefield really, you had planes and boats you could hop into and control.

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Anyway I wouldn't have replied before if you didn't reply with your silly comments. :P

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Warsong: Personally I prefer the arrow keys, and wsad is difficult for me, but I am perfectly happy to adapt to any system as long as its a quality game. I'm fine if you don't like the game, and if David is aiming for professional grade it would be good to add in a control adapter.

Rant is over.

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Mene, I really didn't see anything wrong with Dartsman's post. Whereas I couldn't even understand parts of warsong's, and they were quite insulting and critical.

A man once went to his pastor and asked him what he should do with his life.
The pastor asked what his talents were, and the man said his only talent was the one of criticism.
The pastor replied that it would be better if he had no talents, in that case.

So true...

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Gump
That game switches views when needed so it’s ok for them to do that sometimes but this game does it all the times which makes it a bit annoying to do the obstacles. I even game of an example of the obstacles in another game how its harder and simpler to move. Sometimes games the challenge is in the view and controls.

Mene
People are nurtured to feel offended to something different. Being critical or saying a view is not allowed and treated with attacks it seems. It’s like people attacking a person that attacks a criminal which cases like that have gone to court and the criminal won since the owner of the home hurt him(robber) when the robber tried to steal, destroy, and hurt them first. Lol

Laz
The more you talk the more PC you get lately. How was I insulting? Name one insulting word I said. Don't be afraid you are point out that long list you perceive which their is non. But whatever personal comments you make should be taken in PM. If you mean the first paragraph I was just joking around as i said and if people feel offended so easily then how will people act when really offended. Has society been weaken so much that people feel offended by an honest comment or playing around? Maybe people 50 years ago were evil, so maybe it’s a good thing secular people are helping to destroy Christianity and make people hypersensitive now. No wonder Christians are the main causes for anti Christian actions.
What I said was constructive criticism, if you bake a cake and it tasted like mud should I say mmmmm good and let you fail when u open up a business? Now who would want to eat cake that tastes like mud? Everything to moderation Laz.

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I could taste Laz's cake, tell him "that tastes like mud" or say it really sarcastically and say "Nice cake pal!" in which delivers a totally unnessicary blow that he will be offended enough not to accept my criticisim.

So I leave the sarcasim out, because isn't that the point? To help people people do better?

[sarcasim]

Or are you merely giving criticsim to make you look better?

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Now tell me, which part of my post dealt criticisim better? Before or after the sarcasim?

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[This message has been edited by LAVA (edited December 07, 2006).]

I was referring to you calling Dartsman's reply "silly" - which isn't exactly heartwarming.

so what if it isn't his type of game? it's someone else's type of game, and maybe, just flippin' maybe, what do you know, it might be trying to appeal to those 'freaks of nature' that *like* this type of game. i wonder....

seemed pretty similar to those games to me.

have you *played* a third person game for the pc, ever? those controls were the only ones i've really ever seen.

yes, you *can* be kind. of course, maybe *you* can't. it seems logical to me.

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laz
Silly? Stop being hyper sanative. I was giving some examples of how the game control could be and gave a link to use a controller and he attacks my suggestion which is silly. He didn't suggest much and all he did was attack my help. :P

Bud
Not my fault bud people are sensitive in today’s society, which is why liberals are winning because people are sensitive to everything which help degrade society. Since Christians cant say that what gays do is wrong and we have to encourage it and push kids to be gay, or say men and women are equal and push for them to be firefighters and solders to lift over 100 pounds which they cant so easily and ignore the genetic difference, men act more like women more and are afraid to get their hands dirty and give the jobs to the Mexicans, or say happy holidays instead of merry Christmas since the 10% of Americans will get offended, or call the founding fathers racists, sexists, and every other thing since they don't act like people in today’s society. Also the many other things that people get influenced on which make people reply the way they do. You have great general Patton that slapped the 2 solders for not wanting to fight, in today’s society the soldiers would have sued and retired while people would have to pay more taxes to pay for it and we would have to pay more taxes because of silly things like that. Evil people mostly do that.

I didn’t say everything I didn’t like about the game but about basic things that most would have an issue with. Even David knew there is a list of wrong things. I would have posted once and that it but people kept asking questions or putting words in my mouth which is not true. I played every type of game and no 3rd person game moves like this, but it does move more like a 1st person view game in its movement.

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You'd need a sword like Axys's to cut that wild mop...

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David, I think Caleb is better at Axys than I am!

I thought it was a setup sort of joke until I saw that he really was the one pressing the keys in proper time. That's incredible. I had such a tough time with that level.

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Axys Message 5 (How lies lead to bondage, and God's truth which sets us free)
Axys Message 6 (God's glory)

Axys Battle Vs Prince Reigus
Axys Battle Vs Squidjilistic Joe

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Oh my goodness!

David, I think Caleb is better at Axys than I am!

I thought it was a setup sort of joke until I saw that he really was the one pressing the keys in proper time. That's incredible. I had such a tough time with that level.

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That's the same thing that I said! Now after watching Caleb play, I'll do things the way that he did! ^^

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