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US shadow government exposed! – Faith_Warrior

Faith_Warrior

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I received an e-mail alert from the Minutemen this morning. Though I’ve been aware of this issue for some time, these are the documents that put the nails in the coffin. One can flippantly chock it up to conspiracy theorists, but this is not the case for someone in their right mind in light of the pending evidence. So, thought I’d share an excerpt on the alert so you can pass it along.
A direct link to all the PDF’s which were released under the freedom of information act can be found here: http://stopspp.com/stopspp/?page_id=11
You can also dig up the links from the e-mail excerpt.

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Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:24:08 +0200
"The Minuteman Project" <patriot@minutemanproject.com>
[MMP] StopSPP.com - Exposes Shadow Government

Dear Minutemen,

"About 1,000 documents obtained in a Freedom of Information Act request
to the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America show the
White House is engaging in collaborative relations with Mexico and Canada
outside the U.S. Constitution, says WND columnist and author Jerome
Corsi. "The documents give clear evidence that the Bush administration has
created a 'shadow government,'" Corsi said. The documents can be viewed
on a special website set up by the Minuteman Project -
http://www.StopSPP.com .... "

Minutemen, while we were busy... some in our government were busy too.

Please visit our new website, "Stop the Security and Prosperity
Partnership" - www.StopSPP.com

We have worked for weeks with Dr. Corsi and Jim Gilchrist to develop
this site. Along with the FOIA documents requested by Dr. Corsi, we have
several articles on the SPP and the North American Union. We also have
a new Poll online and a Forum section for your comments. Much more will
be added over the next several months.

Please let others know about StopSPP.com - We need your help to fight
the North American Union!

For the Cause, Linda
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MastaLlama

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/me salutes!

This is some funny stuff! They act like noone knew about these things?? LOL! Not to mention that NAFTA isn't a bad thing, nor is NASCO in my opinion. Good readin'...ROFL!

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Faith_Warrior

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Knew about what? The documents? This is a list of all the documents that have been released from the government. People laugh because they chock it up to a conspiracy theory then when presented with proof they laugh because... it's a good idea?

This is terrible! it's an attack on the sovereignty of my nation. This is a consolidation of North America to fit right into the coming one world government. You know, the stuff the bible mentions with the Antichrist being in charge of? There is only one thing driving this, the spirit of the AC that will soon come and reign on planet Earth; he's preparing his temporal world kingdom.

This isn't some far off goal of theirs regarding what they want to do to North America, I've heard reports that this is slated to be in full authority by the year 2010. As US Citizens, we should be resisting this at all costs! This is just awful...

On a good note:
Luke 21:28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.

But don't go blaming it on me saying that I'm trying to have this all happen sooner rather than later by doing such things as supporting Israel and such things (as I have heard these things flippantly said elsewhere), such comments as this speak for themselves. But I guess the time is here, it's all about to hit the fan, and it's discouraging when someone like Bush who is suppose to be a Christian is leading the way for this to all be possible. Is anyone still awake?.... “ Luke 22:46 Then He said to them, “Why do you sleep? Rise and pray, lest you enter into temptation.”

Realm Master

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Egh, poitics, I try and stay out of it. I dunno, it just doesn't seem to be something I want to get all wrapped up in. Let the big people run (or Ruin) the country, as for me, I'll try and vote for what counts. Slap a pack on my back and give me a gun, Okay, but I'm just one one to dabble wiht the situatinos of a country. I can tack an order, but I don't hink we should... I dunno, I don't care.

So what if the Government's peeking. I'm have nothing to hide (Save my money...) Only those afraid of things will be outraged by spying...

(Unless its your spouse, then your pissed because of lack of trust)

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CheeseStorm
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I can't speak for Mexico, but it'd be cool if Canada joined with the U.S. Kinda cold but there's lots of nature. Our national anthem is sort of boring if you want to use yours. The Antichrist does require use of the metric system, however.

This would be so awesome, what a giant country that would be! And we could try to run the whole thing off of solar panels and wind-thingies. Prisoners would plant trees everywhere, unless they'd rather sit inside. Then all the trees would clean all the left-over smog. Trees own you.

All the little chaos-nations would be like "Awww, ain't that sweet, people getting along - now back to killing!" Then they would come to Canamerica trying to get refugee status, but first they do a lie detector test, and if they are secretly terrorists they can either go to the dreaded Tree Ranch forever or be deported.

The government will be a big computer that takes in polls from the voters and does a bunch of math to find the method that agrees with the most people. The computer makes no decisions on its own, it just does the math. The votes decide.

Canada's national animal is the beaver. Here is a map showing where beavers live in North America:

Coincidence? Yes, but it's cool.

ArchAngel

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... okay...

trying to understand the real panic here. seems like they mix government policy and private citizens and university professor's (who are all somewhat deranged) agendas. (i.e. the article about the amero. heh. amero.... I said amero)

I mean, United States always had a deeper, in a sense, with the rest of the north american countries. for example, let's look at the Monroe doctrine. We made it America's personal business to keep European powers off the american continent.
I honestly think better trade is better for us.

although, I admit. that amero is a crazy concept. stupid professors.

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Cohort X

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Yeah, I'm not really sure what is so shocking that you are getting at. NAFTA has been around for years and was always meant to be advantageous to all parties involved. It looks like alot of it is talking about beefing up security for the whole continent, which seems like a good idea since most contraband that makes it into this country is first smuggled into Mexico or Canada.

And what's so bad about something that might be a precursor to a one world government? I must have skipped the verse in the bible where it says to fight prophecy tooth and nail.

ArchAngel

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a one-world government doesn't necessarily need to be a fulfillment of a prophecy. It, however, in many of our opinions, is a bad idea so we oppose it.

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Cohort X

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Personally I'm no fan of big government so the last thing I want is for the government to be THAT big. But the idea is many Christians will immediately oppose an idea(social event, technology, music, ect.) based purely on the idea that it might be something mentioned in revelation. I'm just wondering how that came about.
MastaLlama

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I'm sure several of you will disagree with me here...but bring on the Anti-Christ and one world government! Depending on if you believe in post-, mid-, or pre- tribulation rapture, and if you are truly saved, you'll be in Heaven!!!! (in 1 second, 3.5 years or 7 years...give or take.) I'm all for it. I'm not suicidal or anything weird like that, and I'm sure my witness is not what it should be and there's sooo many of my friends I need to tell about Jesus and it would be sad if I missed a chance with them, but I welcome the 2nd coming. If Canamerixico is the beginning of that, then "Hello! Como estes, eh?"

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ArchAngel

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mmmm.... burritos covered in maple syrup and ketchup.

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Lava
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If we did combine (which I hope we don't), I have only one question....

Who's gonna rule the place?

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Faith_Warrior

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Wow, this really went swoosh right over some heads here. Either that or there are quite a few looking forward to loosing our rights to self govern and endorse a new system of government much like Mexico or Candida but then maybe something far worse even. This is the end of it all I guess, it's not a serious issue...
CheeseStorm
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Well, the government here in Candida "disappears" a lot of tax dollars, but it's still a great place to live. And we are a self-governed democracy, like you. Technically the Queen of England is our monarch or something (I don't even know, really), but she visits like, every few years, shakes some hands, and goes back to England.

Removing an imaginary line, particularly between two countries as similar as ours, is not something to cry "End of the world!" about (which has been cried so for ~2000 years ). I personally think it'd be a great show of friendship, but it is very unlikely that we'd ever join up. You guys could help us kick out the French, since they want to split off from us anyway. Go back to France!

Lazarus

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I wouldn't have any problem with it except for
IT'S AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION!!!

The Unites States is a "sovereign" state, and...

Well nvm. I can't work up the energy to rant about this like I used to all the time.

Lazarus

ArchAngel

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aww... come on, cheesestorm, the french shouldn't be hard to kick out.
just show up with a small army. preferably with weapons, but not necessary.

so, what [u]exactly[/u] is against the constitution.

I don't see the nations merging at all. it's definitely not to our benefit, unless canadian provinces become american states and mexico becomes a penal colony (j/k). (no offense, ye canada-folk, but, we're a slightly more powerful nation. that and we are caught up with ourselves. except the liberals, who are caught up with everybody else)
(and no offense, mexicans, but... you gotta drive a little faster on the road)

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Ereon

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Honestly I'm with Arch, I don't see any kind of conspiracy about merging or anything of that nature. I'm not much of one for deep politics, but to my untrained eye it simply looks like a three way resolution to increase trade, commerce, and security. It doesn't appear that anyone is giving up their sovereignty, or anything like that, then again I probably missed something along the way. Why is this such a big threat Faith?

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Realm Master

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Okay, okay, I think i get what everyones talking about.

Faith_Warrior:

Anit-christ? Whatever, He's gonna come some day, and like the bible says (Somewhere in there...)
Don't worry aobut tomorow, today has enought troubles of its own.

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Faith_Warrior

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http://stopspp.com/stopspp/?p=38

Documents Reveal ‘Shadow Government’
WorldNetDaily.com - October 24, 2006

Freedom of Information request puts 1,000 new pages online

About 1,000 documents obtained in a Freedom of Information Act request to the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America show the White House is engaging in collaborative relations with Mexico and Canada outside the U.S. Constitution, says WND columnist and author Jerome Corsi.

“The documents give clear evidence that the Bush administration has created a ’shadow government,’” Corsi said.

The documents can be viewed here, on a special website set up by the Minuteman Project.

Bureaucrats from agencies throughout the Bush administration are meeting regularly with their counterpart bureaucrats in the Canadian and Mexican governments to engage in a broad rewriting of U.S. administrative law and regulations into a new trilateral North American configuration, Corsi contends.

“We have hundreds of pages of e-mails from U.S. executive branch administrators who are copying the e-mail to somewhere between 25 to 100 people, a third of whom are in the U.S. bureaucracy, a third of whom are in the Mexican bureaucracy and a third of whom are in the Canadian bureaucracy,” said Corsi.

“They are sharing their laws and regulations so we can ‘harmonize’ and ‘integrate’ our laws into a North American structure, not a USA structure.”

Corsi claims the process is well along the way.

“This is totally outside the U.S. Constitution, virtually an executive branch coup d’etat,” he said. “SPP is creating new trilateral memoranda of understanding and mutual agreements which should be submitted to Senate for two-thirds votes as international treaties.”

Corsi said the documentation he received is missing key pieces.

“We received very few actual agreements, though many are referenced,” he said. “Many of the work plans described lack the work products which the groups say they produced.”

ArchAngel

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again, a bunch of guys saying we're losing soveriegnty, but I still don't see it.


and this from a guy who reads the constitution for fun.
(well.. okay, that's a little stretch)

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Cohort X

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If anything it looks not like America isn't giving up it's sovereignty but rather trying to impose our laws on Canada and Mexico. I don't see how anything our elected officials do could be viewed as being done by a shadow government. Maybe if all of this was being done by a bunch of people no one has heard about THEN it might be a shadow government. All I see is them not giving full disclosure of everything they do.
CoolJ

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quote:
Originally posted by CheeseStorm:
You guys could help us kick out the French, since they want to split off from us anyway. Go back to France!

Vous êtes celui qui doit obtenir votre bout donné un coup de pied de nouveau à l'Angleterre ! un bon nombre de rires ! hahahaha! La règle française ! ! ! ! Juste nous donner Monsieur magnifique John Kerry. Nous l'aimons ! ! ! N'avez-vous pas un certain potatoe de liberté à faire frire ? Je roule sur rire de plancher !

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ArchAngel

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our freedom fries own belgium's french fries.
(man... I can't sat that with a straight face)

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CheeseStorm
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1. Not fighting in our wars.
2. Wasting our tax dollars.
3. Getting bribed to stay part of Canada (with more tax dollars).
4. "Language Police" that forces English businesses to make their names more Frenchy... but not the other way around, of course. That would be racism.

They should make good on their threats and leave! I'd love to see Quebec try to support itself.

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