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Max

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So, does anyone here condemn beer? I'm just curious on people's thoughts. I personally had a couple beers at a party tonight, and didn't get drunk. I know some people are really against drinking in general. Just want your opinions.

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ArchAngel

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beer is not too alcholic and with moderation, it's fine, I believe.

I personally don't drink. bad family history, tons of relative died due to alcohol, both mother and father's side. lol.

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Lazarus

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Well, my grandfather and great-grandfather on my Dad's side were both alcoholics, which is the reason my great-grandfather died, and my grandfather did quit after a long time.

But we occasionally get out a little wine for when someone is sick.(Yeah Arch, I KNOW wine isn't beer, all right? Man, you make one little mistake over somebody's car and they never let you forget it...)

So I don't condemn beer. But all drunk drivers should be put in jail and the key thrown away...

I remember my Dad had this weird story about being about 2 and finding a bottle of his Dad's whiskey and drinking it all, then later his parents wondered why he was acting so strange .

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ArchAngel

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man, your dad can hold his liquor.


and yes, calling a camaro a truck is a mortal sin.

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manic_gamer

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I would say if you have a history of a problem with alchahol abuse then it is wrong.

I think we all know this scripture
Eph 5:18 Do not get drunk with wine, which will only ruin you; instead, be filled with the Spirit.
Which is the most flat out saying about alchahol I know of.. But my belief is this is saying not to get hammered or drunk.. but have a couple even getting tipsy is okay. but not flat out drunk

My Personal oppinion is that a little alchahol's okay every once in a while.. dont get any worse then a little tipsy or steamed. and dont do it often.. once in awhile. and if you go to a party with non-christians then its a good witness to stay away from alchahol.

After all arnt we still here on earth for the sake of those who dont know jesus.. if we wern't we would get raptured at the moment we turned to god in repentence. right.

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Mack

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Personally I don't drink, can't stand the stuff. It's a fine line when to stop, a few drinks is fine but as soon as it starts to affect you then it's time to stop.
steve_ancell

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quote:
Originally posted by max:
So, does anyone here condemn beer? I'm just curious on people's thoughts. I personally had a couple beers at a party tonight, and didn't get drunk. I know some people are really against drinking in general. Just want your opinions.


There's nothing wrong with beer !. I like a good slurp once in a while,a and it's never none me any harm.

D-SIPL

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Everything in moderation. I dont personally drink but then I don't have a problem with people having the odd drink. It's important to know your limits. It's wrong to be drunk and it's wrong to be "just tipsy".

Use wisdom, if your not sure, then it's probablybest to leave it alone.

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buddboy

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I can't drink, not old enough.. but when I am, i can tell you i WILL NOT. I know that it may be okay for some people, they can control it... but I come from a LONG LINE of HEAVY, and I mean HEAVY, drinkers. My dad's uncle drank a bottle of hard liquor every day. He had a trailer on his property (his wife didn't want him to drink in the house), and he would sit in the trailer and drink and play solitaire. and when his friends would come over they'd go to a bar. He died on a bar stool. His other uncle got drunk, became depressed, and threw himself in a river. My dad used to a big drinker, he would go to parties and sit by the keg with a 20 oz cup and just drink and drink... I don't want anything to do with the stuff. Just my personal preference, I think it is okay for some people (of course, getting drunk isn't, but everything in moderation..). It's just not something I want to do.

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luke

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I really don't care, I just dont intend to drink myself.

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NetCog

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There's very applicable and direct (literal) passages on the subject of alcohol in the Bible. So that would be my overall view.

More specifically:
Beer stinks, if you've ever worked around grain elevators after a rain and you'd understand why I'm not going to touch the stuff (to drink). There's something unappatizing about drinking something that smells like the mushy maggoty stew you'd find in the bins or troughs after a summer shower.
Strong alcohol acts a bit like strong horseradish, something I really don't like. I'd like to keep my nose and throat thank you very much.

Weak or quasi-wines would be as close as I'd get.

Now in cooking, beer-battered seafood, rum cake or cookies, etc....mmmm mmmm good!

buddboy

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yeah, that stuff i like. rum cake... MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM... beer-battered catfish? man oh man...

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Max

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Yea, it tastes like crap, but it's more of a social thing.

Thanks for everyone's input, means a lot to me.

It's an acquired taste, the first couple are always the nastiest.

Thanks,
Max

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CPUFreak91

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I have no problem with beer as long as you don't begin to loose your senses.

I hate the taste of beer. But mmmmm... wine is good.

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steve_ancell

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quote:
Originally posted by CPUFreak91:
I have no problem with beer as long as you don't begin to loose your senses.

I hate the taste of beer. But mmmmm... wine is good.


It depends which beer you drink. I think Lager tastes like brake fluid, but I do like a good pint of bitter or ale. I noticed that most of those glammourised drinks that are advertised on TV (such as WKD and Pimms) in my oppinion, taste like something comparable to a liquid that has been strained through a cheezy sock !

Faith_Warrior

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Temperance is, unfortunately, one of those words that has changed its meaning. It now usually means teetotalism… [In the past,] temperance referred not specially to drink, but to all pleasures; and it meant not abstaining, but going the right length and no further. It is a mistake to think that Christians ought all to be teetotalers; Mohammedanism, not Christianity, is the teetotal religion.

Of course it may be the duty of a particular Christian, or of any Christian, at a particular time, to abstain from strong drink, either because he is the sort of man who cannot drink at all without drinking too much, or because he is with people who are inclined to drunkenness and must not encourage them by drinking himself. But the whole point is that he is abstaining, for a good reason, from something which he does not condemn and which he likes to see other people enjoying. One of the marks of a certain type of bad man is that he cannot give up a thing himself without wanting every one else to give it up. That is not the Christian way. An individual Christian may see fit to give up all sorts of things for special reasons—marriage, or meat, or beer, or the cinema; but the moment he starts saying the things are bad in themselves, or looking down his nose at other people who use them, he has taken the wrong turning.

—C.S. Lewis. Mere Christianity, p. 78-79

Genesis 14:18 Melchizedek offering wine to Abram
Nehemiah 2:1 refers to the king drinking wine (Nehemiah was required to taste it first to make sure it was not poisoned)
Esther 5:6; 7:1-2 speaks of wine that Esther (the godly Jewess) drank with the king
Job 1:13 refers to righteous Job’s family drinking wine
Daniel 10:3 drinking wine as a blessing after fasting
1 Tim 5:23 Paul tells Timothy to drink some wine for his stomach’s sake
Deut 14:26 implies that it is a good thing to drink wine and strong drink to the Lord
Psalm 4:7 compares joy in the Lord to the abundance of wine
Psalm 104:14-15 credits God as the creator of wine that “makes a man’s heart glad”
Prov 3:10 blessings of abundant stores of wine
Isa 25:6 The Lord prepares a banquet with “well-aged wines... and fine, well-aged wines” for his people
And Matthew 11:19 Implies that Jesus drank alcohol

steveth45

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"Everything is permissible for me"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"--but I will not be mastered by anything.
- I Cor 6:12

In other words, don't get drunk or addicted to alcohol. If you are prone to do so, you may as well avoid it.

It's not a hard and fast rule to not drink around non-Christians. In my view its either OK, or not OK to drink in moderation. So, I will drink in moderation in public and private. I'm not going to secretly drink in my home and then pretend to be some super "holy" christian in public. When people find out you keep a double standard around them, you'll lose all of their trust. There's absolutely nothing wrong with alcohol, but there is something wrong with people who get drunk and do stupid things.

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SumGI
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Hmm, well my uncle got drunk and drowned himself because he broke up with his girlfriend, the people at the party pulled him out a few times then let him drown himself. Even though It was before I was born It is one of the few things I can think about and cry (tearing right now :'()
I have an alcoholic uncle who has slit his wrist trying to commit suicide (which my dad just happend to come and visit him that day, good thing, God thing) I'm lucky that I haven't been around beer, I've seen my dad have about six beers my entire life (16), my mom never. My Grandpa stopped drinking just before I was born, he realized He would never really get to be trusted with me (like driving eh?). Three homeless uncles, a grandma that's divorced four or five times, need I list my entire family? I just praise God my parents came to Christ before I was born, or I don't know what might be now...

I'd rather not drink alcohol, It can give the wrong impression to non-Christians and Christians on what is enough. Set a good example. People can take alcohol is OK (in much moderation) "So I can all get drunk and it's fine if I don't do anything bad?".

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Realm Master

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Beer? Fine.
Whisky? Hurts throat, but fine.
Wine? Fine.
A shot? Fire.
Alcohol onf fire? Not cool.
Rubbing Alcohol? Not fine. At all.
Margarita? Fine.
Tequila? Fine.

Getting Drunk of of any of those? NOT FINE.

In moderation alcohol is OK. And alocholoic moderation is strict.
A beer a day? No.
A beer every two days? Probalby not.
Every three? Better but still not reccomended?
A beer or two a week? Yeah, sure.
A month? Going strong dude!
Never? Eh, your life.

Just my 2 cents.


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Thegpfury
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I don't have much to add, just the as long as you don't get drunk, and, more importantly, as long as your drinking doesn't cause someone else to sin, or feel offended.

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jestermax

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Generally i stick to a cold Canadian (which is a brand of beer that none of you Yanks have down there) or even a Corona but i went to this screening for the movie Bobby (excellent movie btw, i was the second audience in the world to see it) and i tried a Stella Artois. i must say it's pretty good.
Anyways, heres a bit of math for you guys:
(foozeball + pool) * beer = fun
bennythebear

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i agree with alcoholic beverages being ok as long as you don't get drunk, or offend someone, or 'cause someone to offend. but man, around here all preachers are "no alcohol for preachers!!!" , "beer is of the devil!!!" . i'd like to try a lot of different drinks out(not at the same time of course), 2 reasons i don't want to.

1. almost every one around here would condemn me...which a lot already have...that's another story(not due to alcohol).
2. i'm afraid 1 will turn into 2, and 2 to 4, and so on...

like i don't feel guilty if i have a smirnoff ice at my friends house, but i won't buy any for myself because it would be to easy to drink them all at once. i do plan on trying out different wine's out, but i gotta have some cash for that one.

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steve_ancell

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I seriously quote that there's nothing wrong with drinking in moderation just as long as the effects make you happy, but if it makes you go all depressed you are probably better off without alchohol. When I drink I go all happy and giggle alot, but I never go to far (between 3-5 bitter's or stout) that's when I stop.

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