I've read articles by people who think rock music is bad. + There are satanic rock bands and things like that.
You never see satanic jazz bands, right?
Also, I've heard that listening to rock music at high volumes(is that an oxymoron? ) can ruin your eardrums.

So do you think it is good music to listen to? I'm not really sure.
And would you take Jesus to a rock concert?

Lazarus

I listen to a lot of Punk/Ska/Skacore music. You need to be wise and listen to the lyrics, do they build you up? What are they singing about? What is the bands history?

Everybody plays music loudly, yes it will damage your ears if you listen to it to high, but again use wisdom.

It's only religious people who turn round and say "Rock is satanic/bad". They are narrow minded. There is plenty of Christian Rock out there.

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I listen to 50s 60s and 70s. The old school rock, the good stuff. I remember when Elvis was taboo!!! Now Elvis is considered country?!!?!?!?

Elvis is the king of rock, not country.

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Originally posted by Lazarus:
I know many CCN members listen to rock music - Christian or other.

I've read articles by people who think rock music is bad. + There are satanic rock bands and things like that.
You never see satanic jazz bands, right?
Also, I've heard that listening to rock music at high volumes(is that an oxymoron? ) can ruin your eardrums.

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I've read articles by people that think playing cards are evil, boxing and wrestling are evil, and that computers are evil. I think genres or subsets of music, like rock music, can be fashioned into something that glorifies God or blasphemes in the same way that other types of art and expression like oil paintings, poetry, and performance art can. Most rock music exists in a gray area and it all depends on being sensitive to what God wants for you at different times. I respect those that avoid all rock music out of conscience, and I respect those whose faith allows them to listen to much of it. As long as you are not violating your own conscience before God, or causing your brothers to stumble, it's fine.

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So do you think it is good music to listen to? I'm not really sure.
And would you take Jesus to a rock concert?

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As a believer, I take Jesus with me everywhere I go. So, I have taken Jesus to numerous rock concerts. Sometimes, I have been at concerts where I felt like I needed to leave or step out while a certain band played because they had a spirit that was offensive to the Lord and I felt grieved. Other times, I've been at concerts where I felt a spirit of worship for the Lord coming from the stage and audience that pleased the Lord. These experiences have not had a one-to-one correlation with "secular" and "Christian" labeled bands.

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My next question... what in the world is Ska???

Lazarus

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I'm not saying "Rock is evil and will rot your brain".
I am saying "Be careful what you listen to since music can sway the heart."

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You have to look at both sides of the story and see the good and bad to both sides and weigh what is most beneficial to your needs than your wants which would benefit you and be happy. As always you have to know the history of things and the purpose of why it was made, who made, it and so on. The root of all evil is money (also ignorance) and so we have to understand all the facts than just opinions.

Here is another site that says what kind of music is beneficial and shows evidence on how it is.
http://www.reversespins.com/health.html
They state that Classical or Byzantine (chanting) are the most beneficial physically, spiritually, emotionally, etc. Christ chanted and I can not imagine him not doing so and say Rock on. Lol Even the rocks starts are no role models and they are proud of the sins they do. As a few musicians said music is a political tool to get their views across and most of them don’t have real talent but they do sell just like junk food does.

You can see the taste in music at the level of education rich and the lower class people had thought out the centuries, which the people that know music well appreciated it more are listen to the “fine arts” or very wise religious people only listen to Chanting, while on the other spectrum people that are the masses listen to persuasive music which is not up to the standard kind of like how junk food is for the masses which could be considered rock, and then you have lower level music like Rap which are associated mostly with immoral people like former criminals singing it that talk about immoral acts.

Some people don’t want to admit it and want to mix the bad with the good since they want equality so much that it becomes communistic, illogical, unrealistic sine they don’t see the major differences. Remember use metaphors to compare, the bible is one big example of megaphones to help you answer other questions that it doesn’t address directly.

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Here is one link how good music is good for you. But first you have to understand the source of how music was made and what kind of people they were. I posted about music but I didn’t say much about it and many didn’t want to listen.

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Some points from the site http://www.reversespins.com/health.html
"Of all the music we tested in medical school with patients, colleagues and others, Bach's (classical) music consistently made the brain work in a balanced way better than any other genre,""

"The power of music to affect memory is quite intriguing. Mozart's music and baroque music, with a 60 beats per minute beat pattern, activate the left and right brain. The simultaneous left and right brain action maximizes learning and retention of information. The information being studied activates the left brain while the music activates the right brain. Also, activities which engage both sides of the brain at the same time, such as playing an instrument or singing, causes the brain to be more capable of processing information."
(well the smartest kids in class were the ones that played classical music well.)

"chanting along with classical music reduces stress, anxiety and depression... memory and power of concentration are enhanced during one's life- time, [said] Dr Krishnamoorthy Srinivas, senior neurologist... 'It has been found that Indian children have more capacity to learn with better memory when brought up on Vedic chanting and music, than those those in western countries,' "

"According to a tube spokesman, the music is "an attempt to reduce stress levels" and "not primarily to discourage antisocial behaviour". But anecdotal evidence from other transport systems has shown that blasting a bit of Bach over the tannoy significantly reduces crime levels."

" Dogs are more relaxed and well-behaved when listening to classical music, rather than pop or heavy metal, according to a new behavioral study." (That’s funny)

"Hard Rock or Heavy Metal music may be hazardous to one's health...University of Medicine in Brussels "

"researcher says drivers who listen to fast music in their cars may have more than twice as many accidents as those listening to slower tracks."

another site says
"Countless studies now show that listening to classical music is beneficial to young children...”

Classical and Chanting music use the Ancient Greek formula of the golden center (golden rectangle) It helped make the best art, architecture, poetry, music, etc and inspired all the great thinkers. Too bad society today ignores these points and doesn’t use the proven method of the golden rectangle which you can read up about the theory online.

To be more Christian we have to be more refined, but society seem to give us quantity than quality we love and it’s like junk food which we are hurt physically, mentally, and spiritually.

Keep being humble

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penny --Is. 64

There was a quote by some experts that said the same thing in a way. Music moves the soul and mostly goes with a non Christian way. God should only move the soul since he is the right path.

As one priest said something like
"Pleasure is hedonism of body, from the senses, and soul from music... are not joyful like from fine arts that are from God." I would guess some people will be confused with pleasure and joy which pleasure is an extreme type of joy in Christian terms which is considered hedonism.

"Music refines the person, disciplines, and fine tune in what is good music to also help the person’s health and soul, and calm the person unlike those musical events that destroy the stadium which shows they are in decadence."

"Modern music is inspired by satanic violent tribes, while Byzantine music is like the ancient Greek measures and scales (golden center) to also inspired the Greek language” also considered to be the inspired word of God to be the official NT.

Everything to moderation as the ancient Greeks said which they also said, music was originally to refine people to be better but now the use of music has been distorted again.
Even the world leisure time to them was used to better one self and learn but now it's to waste time.

"For changing people's manners and altering their customs, there is nothing better than music" (Shu Ching, 6th. Century BC).
An example can be this
"On the other hand, contemporary music like rock and roll - particularly "heavy metal" - creates the exact opposite effect on the listener: quiet people are driven to violence, rage and malice. Rock and roll appeared approximately 40 years ago. Over this period, the development of this music headed more and more toward sexual lust. David Gergen characterizes this evolution in the following way: "The difference between the music of yesterday and that of today is the leap one makes from swimming in Sports Illustrated to the centerfolds of Hustler" (USA Today, Oct. 11 1985)."

Just a thought

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For example, I love techno/electronica. I know that some people are tripping to this music and wasting there lives. I know a lot of it is trash. (I don't listen/support trash.) But I love the style, it excites me, the skips, bumps, hard punches especially with an funky twist. WOOT! Frankly, it sets a pace for my mind (60 bpm? more like 120, or 240)that I can really get in the zone and accomplish things.

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I know exactly what you mean! I listen to metal and some other stuff because I like the sound, but I absolutely love electronica. DnB w/ exceptionally high BPM, I like. Slower DnB isnt really my style. I love Trance. Just started listening to Gao-Psy trance as well.

I listen to electronica just because I like it, but also when I need to get alot of work done. (Or sometimes I just get alot of work done when I am listening to it.... seems like the same thing, but theres a difference in circumstances).

I also type/write faster when listening to electronica.

Wish I could listen to it at school.

I'd go to raves, but its been shown that 85-90% of rave-goers have used ecstasy or some other rec. drug at least once. And I have a somewhat addictive personality....so... Can't afford that habit.

But anyway Warsong and penny, I fully agree with you on the point that music sways peoples' emotions. I think the line is drawn at emotions though. Metal may put people in more aggresive moods (not in all cases of course), but it doesn't make them more physically violent. That is a totally different issue within the individual.

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