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Gates stepping down – Mack

Mack

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With so much Microsoft hate going on I thought this would be interesting:

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aA_tLydtHAHs&refer=news_index

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Bill Gates will step down from his day-to-day role at Microsoft Corp. in July 2008, three decades after founding the software maker that now controls almost 95 percent of the world's personal computers.

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In recent years, Gates became increasingly focused on philanthropy in education and world health. He and wife Melinda had endowed their Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation with more than $28.8 billion as of January 2005 to provide vaccinations in poor countries, research cures for AIDS and install computers in libraries and schools.

So how about this:

In was in Gods plan for Gates to get rich in order for him to pump billions of dollars into charity. Who else could pump $30 BILLION dollars into charity? or rather, who would? Not many.

Realm Master

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Hmm... thats interesting...

I HOPE that i would donate 30 mill (or bill, as the situation stands) if i had that much money, but i'll never know (or WILL I? haha, yeah right!)


He's seriously stepping down???!?! Amazing.

And 30 mill/bill (whatever) into charity is (hopefully) going to be a huge help.

God does work in strange ways. Even through most computer-geek's worst enemy.

thanks for the info Mack

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Mack

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If I did the math right and I probably didn't, it's about 1.6 billion a month or 5.3 million dollars a day.
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Originally posted by Realm Master:
most computer-geek's worst enemy.


Why do you say that?

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Bill Gates may be retiring or whatever, but is that gonna help out other systems? Probabaly Windows will stay top for a while longer..

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Mack

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The other systems will just have to help themselves, as they always have. Having Bill Gates retire isn't by any means going to bring Microsoft to it's knees. At least you know that some of YOUR money will be going to charity, eh?

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CoolJ

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Didn't he just get through saying that he wished he wasn't the richest man in the world? Its possible all the money in the world has not brought him happiness.

I hope he does well with his charity, and if he doesn't know Christ as his savior, I hope he discovers this and it brings him true happiness, money sure can't! (and Windows DEFINITELY CANT!!)

here's a predicting: Gates will fund his own mission to Mars and be the first person to land on Mars, where he will plant a Microsoft flag as a promo!)

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Didn't he just get through saying that he wished he wasn't the richest man in the world? Its possible all the money in the world has not brought him happiness.

I hope he does well with his charity, and if he doesn't know Christ as his savior, I hope he discovers this and it brings him true happiness, money sure can't! (and Windows DEFINITELY CANT!!)

here's a predicting: Gates will fund his own mission to Mars and be the first person to land on Mars, where he will plant a Microsoft flag as a promo!)


..btw, he'll plan to go solo, but he'll ultimately decide to bring Gary Coleman along as part of a publicity stunt, which is a good thing, because
when the ship's systems fail(running on Windows Vista, of course) midflight, Gary Coleman pulls out a thumb drive and reboots into a version of linux he happened to have installed, quickly codes some needed device drivers and thus saves them both from disaster! I think this is a safe prediction.

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If he is ernestly giving it to charity wich he could be, but it could all be for tax returns and junk like that. A lot of the stuf that gets donated to the chirstian organization I'm working at is done in that tax refund thing, don't understand how it all works.

As for the fall of MS, Its going to be a while. But I think there are some hints as to some posible focus changes. If you note their gaming devision is doing quite quite good. They get things out before there competitors and they actualy put a good bit of inovation into the Xbox system. I think the Xbox system in the first place is a hint. A hint that there software devishion isn't doing as good as it used to and they wanted to grow there market in some other areas.

Why do I think that about their software devishion? I mean sure they could just be growing their market in other areas, which is a good idea. But I think Vista is the hint that their software devishion is going down hill. Vista has been in development for ages. All they do is push back the release date and cut out features. I mean its been 6 years or so since there last OS release, that my friends is a sighn. Ha ha, well think what you like

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An interesting post from someone on Slashdot:

"I'm no fan of Mr. Gates' morality in general...But his morality is the only morality that company has. At all. This move will make Microsoft into more of a money grubbing, profit-centered, **censored** anybody who gets in our way, sociopathic corporation. And they didn't have very far to fall to begin with."

I'm not saying I agree with his post, but it was an interesting perspective, and we'll certainly see how it pans out after Bill Gates steps down to the chairman position.

There's also a *very* interesting discussion in there about Bill Gates' philanthropy. Someone brought up interesting points about the logistics involved in giving away that much money: for example, one can't just throw that much money everywhere; it takes an entire infrastructure just to hold charities accountable for how they use the money; also, you have to make sure that charities don't become so dependent on a single source of funding because if it stops suddenly, they're in trouble.

Yeah, anyway, interesting thoughts over there.

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Originally posted by tonnyx:
An interesting post from someone on Slashdot:

"I'm no fan of Mr. Gates' morality in general...But his morality is the only morality that company has. At all. This move will make Microsoft into more of a money grubbing, profit-centered, **censored** anybody who gets in our way, sociopathic corporation. And they didn't have very far to fall to begin with."

I'm not saying I agree with his post, but it was an interesting perspective, and we'll certainly see how it pans out after Bill Gates steps down to the chairman position.

There's also a *very* interesting discussion in there about Bill Gates' philanthropy. Someone brought up interesting points about the logistics involved in giving away that much money: for example, one can't just throw that much money everywhere; it takes an entire infrastructure just to hold charities accountable for how they use the money; also, you have to make sure that charities don't become so dependent on a single source of funding because if it stops suddenly, they're in trouble.

Yeah, anyway, interesting thoughts over there.


Another interesting consideration that would be easy to overlook is 40 or 50 or more billion dollars are in this tax free fund. Not only can the money be spent on any charity they decide to, but the shear levarage and power this money can command over corporations and legislators is scary. Not in how its spent, BUT in how its invested. This money can be shifted to and from any investment they decide. Trust me with great money comes great power, and with great power comes great resp....well you know . This fund holds great power just in existance and use in deciding which companies are invested into. It would be interesting to know where these investments currently are.....

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i don't know how long it will be, or if it will ever happen, but if it does it will be a long time before microsoft is #2, imho anyway. i was just checking out stocks(i plan on investing later in life). i plan on buying into redhat, and possibly some other technology corps. it makes since to me to invest in redhat because linux seems to be gaining more users and popularity, and redhat seems to be the most popular enterprise version. so i figure years down the road your investment would pay off pretty well. anyone else here interested in the stock market(even if it's a light interest like me)?

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I take some slight intrests in economics, and since stocks are part of economics I assume that would count. I've thought about investing, but it's never been a deep set interest in me, though I do love studying how stocks and other parts of the economic system work, and how economics play into the role of a nation as a whole.

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I Disagree! The dark side of it all.

It would have been better if Gates was not rich since he causes more harm than good. He is not a Christian and so you will obviously see a lot of misguided logic. Here are some examples.

As the saying a Chinese saying goes if you give a man a fish he gets fed for a day, if you teach the man how to fish they can feel themselves for life. But Gates doesn't get it.

There are more poor whites in the US but Bill gates said he will only donates things to blacks, which discriminates. They don’t say that on the news but ½ truths is what makes the world go round.
“Today, only one-third of our students graduate from high school ready for college, work, and citizenship. The other two-thirds, most of them low-income and minority students, are tracked into courses that won’t ever get them ready for college or prepare them for a family-wage…In district after district, wealthy white kids are taught Algebra II while low-income minority kids are taught to balance a check book! …We have one of the highest high school dropout rates in the industrialized world.“ His comments are ignorant, some might see it as racist, or reverse discrimination. Schools have been dumb down to cater to low level students, and it makes more low levels students which makes things worse and everyone suffers. What next giving to women charities since women get paid less even though they do better in schools even though schools are catered top women’s way of learning?

“Students who graduate from high school (only) will earn... about twenty-five thousand dollars a year. For a family of five, that’s close to the poverty line. But if you're Hispanic, you earn less. If you’re black, you earn even less – about 14 percent less than a white high school graduate. “ As I said more poor whites which don’t get as much social liberal programs in the US but he focuses on race to give more to others that get a lot of benefits which he ignores.

Africans don’t appreciate what he does in Africa since they know that he is making it worse, but the rulers love him, and the people he sees in person that he gives something to them hand in hand like him but in general they thinks its all BS. Black people in the US attack MS since as stated in the media since MS they don’t hire that many blacks or have someone like Jessie Jackson that want more money or else they will call him racist. He wants to donate computers in Africa but what they want is a job to get food as the saying goes about fishing.

The problem is that rich make rich and they don’t understand and sympathies with the poor which is why they look good to give but they don’t understand so well which only brings problems. Bill gates HS was over 2 times more expensive than Harvard and his family had powerful connections, which didn’t teach him about being refined.. His greedy methods doesn’t show that he is that giving as many know since he got in trouble with government.

In the end you have to see the fruits of his labor and for him to give in Africa for example are not helping in telling them to give money for condoms and makes commercials telling them it’s ok to have permissions sex even if they have aids and for them to put on a condom or have oral. The aids level increased, poor people incereasing, the bureaucracy is getting worse, the killing, suffering, and hunger are increasing, the tyrant rulers are getting more power, and more thanks to Bill Gates putting more fuel to the fire. But at least he look like a good guy right? The show 20/20 talked about how this help is hurting African but people and noble piss prize doesn’t get it and mostly doesn’t do it research since they even gave a prize to Arafat.

The other problem is not only does he give to the bottomless pit in Africa but he helps push for part of your taxes to do so as well. What kind of charity is it if we are forced to give, which that is not giving its taking. His reasons for giving are more important than what he gives since the means justify the ends and his means are not that good, but people just look at the ends which that also is not good if the means are not.

In the end there is a limit of how much good a person can do if they do not have Christ, since they get misguided and cause more harm than good no matter how much money or good they think they are doing.


PS about stocks ELN is a good one which it was at 3 and not it is at 16 and it is estimated to be at 100 in a year.

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