firemaker103 Member Posts: 643 From: Registered: 07-13-2005 |
"It would appear that Windows Vista 5308 is available for members of the public to download from Microsoft's servers. This is almost certainly a mistake on Microsoft's part, but nevertheless - the build is publicly downloadable and appears to be identical to the version available to testers via MS Connect... " http://www.jcxp.net/news.php?newsid=1249 I'm downloding this right away... ------------------ |
buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
what is it? ------------------ |
firemaker103 Member Posts: 643 From: Registered: 07-13-2005 |
A Windows Vista Build. Basically, an beta Windows Vista. ------------------ |
buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
what's windows Vista, tho... is what i'm wondering... lol.. ------------------ |
ImpactMan Member Posts: 25 From: California Registered: 03-13-2006 |
How are you going to install it? Don't you need a Vista Product Key? ------------------ |
Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
quote: It's the successor to Windows XP. ------------------ |
buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
oh... cool.. lol... ------------------ |
firemaker103 Member Posts: 643 From: Registered: 07-13-2005 |
http://www.tech-recipes.com/microsoft_vista_tips1317.html w ------------------ |
ImpactMan Member Posts: 25 From: California Registered: 03-13-2006 |
Do you know what the required system specs are to run the beta? I doubt that my uber slow 500mhz processor could handle it... ------------------ [This message has been edited by ImpactMan (edited April 02, 2006).] |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: You need to be a regular slashdot reader: www.slashdot.com ------------------ |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I downloaded 2 megs of Vista!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No Bill, you won't have me captive!!!! I made a vow not to have Vista installed on any of my computers. *Runs towards apple MacBook and partitions drive* ------------------ [This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited April 02, 2006).] |
firemaker103 Member Posts: 643 From: Registered: 07-13-2005 |
1GB and climbing.... ------------------ [This message has been edited by firemaker103 (edited April 02, 2006).] |
buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
what about the fact that you need a product key? ------------------ |
crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
that was covered in a link FM posted. don't worry, he doesnt link to porn. :-P ------------------ |
ImpactMan Member Posts: 25 From: California Registered: 03-13-2006 |
quote:
quote: *ahem* Edit: crazyishone beat me... [This message has been edited by ImpactMan (edited April 02, 2006).] |
Klumsy Administrator Posts: 1061 From: Port Angeles, WA, USA Registered: 10-25-2001 |
what about the fact that doing so will be breaking the law? ------------------ |
firemaker103 Member Posts: 643 From: Registered: 07-13-2005 |
It's always been availible. It's just that someone finally found the link. It's not the latest beta anyway. Pretty soon they're going to do a public beta anyway. Of a newer and better version. :| ------------------ |
Thegpfury Member Posts: 53 From: Registered: 03-23-2006 |
bother. Still need the product key to install it, at least it if you install from windows. ------------------ |
buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
oh duh i should have seen that... thnx crazy and impact... ------------------ |
Chickadoo Member Posts: 75 From: marzukba, europa, milky way Registered: 10-13-2004 |
maybe if you call up and ask pretty please... ------------------ |
firemaker103 Member Posts: 643 From: Registered: 07-13-2005 |
Grrr... my computer won't even run Vista! :\ Due to my graphics card and bad processer. (2.40 Ghz won't even run the beta?! the BETA!) ------------------ |
crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
actually, the further along it gets, the more they will optimize it's performance. So the official release will likely run on a lower end system (comparatively. still need to be current) ------------------ |
Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
Well there goes my computer, it's a 2.3 Ghz P4. Crazy, that sounds reasonable, I hope that's what they do. ------------------ |
crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
The primary goal of microsoft is to make money. They will need to make sure that they get as many people as possible to buy Vista. This is alot easier when it actually works for a large group of people. So I believe they'll definately get it running smoother and faster on more common systems. The bulk of their market is (human beings in general :-p) but PC's in homes. ------------------ |
Ashton_JX Member Posts: 156 From: Springfield, Oregon, USA Registered: 02-21-2005 |
quote: Haha, I made that very same vow. After Windows XP, I'm not touching another Windows OS . As crazy said, "The primary goal of microsoft is to make money.". With that kind of mentality, I can hardly trust Microsoft to have my best interests in mind, all trying to break stuff so it only works on Microsoft products. That just ain't right. Viva Revolution! :P ------------------ Tired of loosing your work for all eternity? Jesus Saves! You should too :P (liek every 1 1/2 seconds) This is a message from teh save the data foundation, and from (CTRL + S): Because da data is y00r future. Maybe. |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: hahaha. Interesting. I will Burn my windows disks some day, and I'll make a huge to do about it! I'll even record it on video. How true. $$$$$$$$$$s... greed, whatever. Oi! Que viva la revolucion y que no se apage! ------------------ |
guategeek Member Posts: 107 From: Guatemala Registered: 11-08-2005 |
Microsoft has no taste, no style, and no brains. Vista is going to be the death of MS and Windows (vow I made back in the early Long Horn days) and as it keeps getting delayed, having features cut, and needing more and more powerful hardware its becoming very very likely that my vow will be true in a way. That Vista is the begining of the end, and it could be a LONG end, but the end none the less Viva apple! No I'm not bias |
Ashton_JX Member Posts: 156 From: Springfield, Oregon, USA Registered: 02-21-2005 |
Yeah, thats one of the problems I have with it. If I've got great hardware, I want it to run at the top of the game. The OS shouldn't take that much resources. That should be left to the programs that I want to run. ------------------ Tired of loosing your work for all eternity? Jesus Saves! You should too :P (liek every 1 1/2 seconds) This is a message from teh save the data foundation, and from (CTRL + S): Because da data is y00r future. Maybe. |
luke Member Posts: 311 From: I use your computer as my second Linux box Registered: 10-30-2005 |
Holy Cow, 2.4ghz isn't enough!!! Ive only got 2.8ghz... thats INSANE!!! I could use a command prompt style OS (with some handy features to eliminate typing too much) easily w/o this *(*&_ Windows ------------------ |
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
quote: or you could mail it to someone who uses windows...i know y'all linux/mac geeks despise windows, but some people actually find it useful. ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
no no no... you send the ashes to somebody who uses Windoze... then they can cry over it... LOL... i use Linux, but i also use windows because of my games/software that won't run on Linux... ------------------ |
firemaker103 Member Posts: 643 From: Registered: 07-13-2005 |
No no no, send them to me and I'll smash them, burn them, throw them, etc. in any way of your choosing and take pictures and videos of it...! ------------------ |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: By the time I burn XP Vista will be dead and replaced or popular and making XP obsolete. Unless someone begs for it, I'll burn ------------------ |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Vista looks kinda cool. All shiny and transparent... (But so will KDE 4)quote: Try the Loki installers and Wine. ------------------ [This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited April 05, 2006).] |
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
or you could sell it on ebay and use the money to buy something extra for your pc... like a tv tuner card for linux so you start recording tv shows on it, turn you linux box into a dvr...it's an idea. i like windows myself, but that's because it's the easiest to do what i want/need to do with a computer, however, using linux as an inexpensive but secure/reliable server is very very interesting to me, but before i dive head first into the linux world i have to master windows side of networking. i just think linux has a lot of work that needs to be done before it's a good alternative to windows for the everyday/newbie user. ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
firemaker103 Member Posts: 643 From: Registered: 07-13-2005 |
Until I see a proper idiot's, and I mean a PROPER I D I O T 's linux, I'm staying with Windows as my OS and linux on VMware. ------------------ |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: Are you calling yourself and idiot?
quote: *Changes mind to burning Windows 3.2 floppys and ME disks.* EDIT: Oh, userfriendly.org has some funny comics about M$ and Vista. [This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited April 05, 2006).] [This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited April 05, 2006).] |
firemaker103 Member Posts: 643 From: Registered: 07-13-2005 |
A Linux idiot. ------------------ |
Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
Lunix is the way of the future for a few reasons: 1 All apples are crap. Unless your a average Joe who just wants the surf the internet, and play DVDs and upload pictures. Byond that, Apple couldn't be worth crap unless you BUY BUY BUY BUY waaaayyy more stuff for it! seesh. 2. We all know windows is bound to die sometime. too bad for Bill Gates. 3. As far as i Know, linux runs everything, works like a PC, only better. Tada. ------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! P.S. I HATE 640x480!!!!!! |
crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
Mac computers are actually quite solid. And OSX is good. You might say it sucks becuase its "not linux" but I have been enlightened by some mac gurus. Its a UNIX derivitive, secure, fast, yada yada. So good stuff there. Plus it looks pretty, and to some people a clean and fresh environment is crucial to efficiency. Kinda like getting the "corner office with the view" rather than the dingy hole in the basement. zen... haha ------------------ |
Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
Yes, but to use macs for programming you either have to : Love Java or by a bunch of software from Apple. NOT wanting myself to become dirt poor when I go away to college, i'll stick with windows until it ultimately fails me, then switch to lunix. (trust me, i have a mac, i know these things!) ------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! P.S. I HATE 640x480!!!!!! |
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
windows won't be dead for a long, long time. though linux server are becomeing more popular(especially web servers and apache), windows server is still the standard, and windows xp/2000 is still the workstation os of choice for most businesses, also for most home users. i think windows has 2 main things that keep it at the top...one is ease of use(very easy for computer illiterates), and it's plug and play is the best out there(xp). that alone makes it the most attractive to the ignorant computer user, and the lazy computer user(me ). ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: I'm buying a mac... they have such a cool OS and hardware. KDE special effects would be awesome.
quote: But what about open source libraries and programs? For instance, you can install Gentoo's Portage on OS X. GCC also work AFAIK. ------------------ |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: Well, it's plug and play is the best becuase there are drivers for it! Linux and Mac OSX don't have all those drivers. Currently D-BUS, HAL (Used by Windows too) and KDE Automounter: Detect and mount CDs automatically, detect my camera chips in my internal chip reader, detect USB Thumbdrives, Detect Digital camera's. And I'm waiting to get an iPod and test that out. I've heard that they work out of the box a lot of times, and amaroK has some cool iPod features. I'm glad you tried Linux, if you don't like it after that I don't mind too much. It's just when people put down Linux and they've never tried it themselves. EDIT: Back to vista, has anyone gotten it to work? ------------------ [This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited April 07, 2006).] |
luke Member Posts: 311 From: I use your computer as my second Linux box Registered: 10-30-2005 |
Well, I spent all night downloading it; found out my computer didn't have a Dvd R/W drive (stupid me) and then spent another hour sending it to a computer only to then find out that its Dvd R/W drive didn't detect my Dvd-RW! I put in the dvd and the software tells me to please insert a disk. Does any1 know a way to install 3gigs of vista? Is it possible to use multiple CD-R/Ws? Or what? ------------------ |
goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
Oooh, pretty must.... resist.... download.... You should carve those CDs into shurikens, then you could truthfuly say Windows kills ------------------ |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: You may need a permanent DVD, ie DVD-R 4x (Too be safe). You can't split the installer over several CD-Rs because you can't exactly cut the installer up into little pieces. It's already compiled as a big file and there's no reall easy way to divide it. ------------------ |
firemaker103 Member Posts: 643 From: Registered: 07-13-2005 |
I hope everyone relizes the official beta is available here: http://www.microsoft.com/betaexperience/en/register.aspx ------------------ |
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
quote: cpufreak might be right. you might also want to make sure you have the right media for your drive. if your dvd burner is dvd-r/w, and your disc is dvd+rw it won't work. but if you have a dvd+/-rw then your good to go. ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
kurtp2003 Member Posts: 48 From: minnesota, US Registered: 01-20-2006 |
Will installing this wipe my Hard Drive? Will I be able to access my old stuff? |
webmaster Member Posts: 28 From: West Virginia, USA Registered: 04-05-2006 |
I read that you must AT LEAST have 898 mhz processor, 1GB dual channel ram, 15 GB HD, and a 128 MB GFX card. What I have: 1.4 GHZ Processor I have updated it from nothingness...and it still sux.. ------------------ If practice makes perfect, and no one is perfect, then why practice? -Yours Truely |
webmaster Member Posts: 28 From: West Virginia, USA Registered: 04-05-2006 |
I read that you must AT LEAST have 898 mhz processor, 1GB dual channel ram, 15 GB HD, and a 128 MB GFX card. What I have: 1.4 GHZ Processor I have updated it from nothingness...and it still sux.. ------------------ If practice makes perfect, and no one is perfect, then why practice? -Yours Truely |
D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
I pity anyone who actually buys Vista... what a rip-off... ------------------
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goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
I pity anyone who buys Windows in general.. what a rip off... Im a bit angry with my WindowsXP partition right now..... ------------------ |
garand Member Posts: 22 From: Michigan, USA Registered: 06-19-2006 |
quote:No. It creates a folder in C:\Windows.old so you will be fine. ------------------ "I'd still rather be hunting with Dick Cheney than driving with Ted Kennedy." -From CodersWorkshop |
guategeek Member Posts: 107 From: Guatemala Registered: 11-08-2005 |
Ok just to clear a few misconseptions up from RM and bennythebear about apples. RM: 1 All apples are crap. Unless your a average Joe who just wants the surf the internet, and play DVDs and upload pictures. Byond that, Apple couldn't be worth crap unless you BUY BUY BUY BUY waaaayyy more stuff for it! seesh. Think about what you said for a second. You said that if you want to do anything specific with a Mac then you have to purchase software. This is exactly the same with Windows. So that argument just went out the window (no pun intended). Also the number of things you can do with a Mac out of the box is far greater than the average PC. As far as the Average Joe part, sure apple is using that approch in there advertising campaign. But thats because they are trying to get a new market. They already have a large portion of the creative media world. The mac is the number one workstation for Audio. There is a 99% chance that any CD you have, was recorded on a Mac using ProTools. It is also the number on workstation for semi-pro and amature video editing. Many films that have gone to the theater have been cut with apples Final Cut Pro, and almost all consumer editing is done in it as well. Its also dominant in the publishing industry as well as many other areas. So its obviouslo NOT JUST for the average Joe. RM: Yes, but to use macs for programming you either have to : Love Java or by a bunch of software from Apple. Apple dousn't sell any codding software. If you want to develop for the Mac using apples API's you can use its FREE developer tools which include the powerful Xcode. Sure you can use Java in Xcode but you can also use objectiv C. If you would rather program in other languages you can get the API's you need, some are free some may cost you something. Not realy any different that other OS's. bennythebear: i think windows has 2 main things that keep it at the top...one is ease of use(very easy for computer illiterates), and it's plug and play is the best out there(xp). Obviously opinions are going to vary in this area a little bit. But Mac OS is far easyer for computer illiterates to use. Its just harder for people than using something they are already used to, because they would need to relearn a few areas. So for Windows user it would take you maybe a week to get used to the Mac OS, which is a week more than not using it. But for a computer iliterate I bet it would be much faster than if they were learning Windows for the first time. So I would say Mac OS is at least on Par with Windows in user frendlyness (most likely better). Also Plug and Play means that you don't have to install any drivers. You just plug it in and all the required drivers are already part of the OS. So I wouldn't say XP wins there eather, because if you get something and have to use a CD to install it and then plug it in and use it. That is not a plug and play device. On the norm Mac OS has a ton of drivers already in place, like you won't ever need a driver for an external Hard Drive, for and Optical Drive, for any kind of Flash Drive, for cameras or printers. On rare ocation you might have something that needs a driver but this is usualy for something that is quite old and has been out of support for a good while. So I would say that Mac OS is at least on par with XP for Plug and Play. I think the real reason that Windows is the most used OS is because of a few reasons. One is because of the advertising, it got much more advertising back in the early days than the Mac OS. So it became the dominent. Now many years latter its still the dominent because people and especialy buisnesses are afraid of change. Second is that Windows is the primary OS in buissnesses today. This is because busnesses try to cut costs. So they like cheaper hardware and there is lots of cheaper hardware options that run Windows. Weather it realy cuts costs is questionable because of the number of IT personel needed to keep these cheaper workstations running. But hey thats there problem not mine. So thats some truth, and some biast. I understand your opinions are different and have nothing against that. Use what OS suits you the best. I just don't like when people state wrong facts about my OS. Who knows how many of your reasons for not using it are bogus. Just a thought to think about . Have a great one guys and enjoy Vista if you ever get your hands on it and a comp that can run it. Jeff |
Lazarus Member Posts: 1668 From: USA Registered: 06-06-2006 |
I've got beta 5384 running on my computer, thought I'd share how I did it for others of you. First, I signed up through their website and they emailed me a product key that could be used on up to 10 computers. 2nd, I downloaded the .iso. 3rd, I redownloaded the .iso , stupid errors. 4th, I mounted it(the iso) as a virtual hard drive using Daemon Tools version 3.84. Thus eliminating the need for a DVD burner. 5th, I ran the setup program and installation started. 6th, selected my other empty 60GB hard drive as the installation partition and it began installing the files. 7th, it restarted my computer and expanded the files to my HD. 8th, it installed some more things and then restarted and asked me to configure some things. 9th, I configured everthing(time zone, country, all that stuff), and set up a user account with a password. 10th, after countless attempts to login using that name and password, each time failing, I rebooted and started the installation all over again. Goto 1; 11th, after reinstalling, I created a user account with NO password, and it booted directly into Vista. 12th, I went to http://www.crystalxp.net/galerie/en.id.130.htm 13th, I deleted Vista. No, not really . HTH |
goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
Nice website ------------------ |