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People can be manipulated very easily no mater what age and the waskest ones are the young since they don't know what to believe. I advise people to watch these short PBS videos which i think is 30 min long which I am sure you will get a lot of of them. If you don't watch it then it is your loss. As one priest says "ignorance is the root to all evil" and yes the bible says money but roughly the same path. Marketing is done subliminaly and you will see many examples on these short clips People can be manipulated very easily no mater what age and the weakest ones are the young since they don't know what to believe. I advise people to watch these short PBS videos which I think is 30 min long which I am sure you will get a lot out of them. If you don't watch it then it is your loss. As one priest says "ignorance is the root to all evil" and yes the bible says money but roughly the same path. Marketing is done subliminally and you will see many examples on these short clips "The Merchants of cool" These types of tricks works best for non Christians or Christians that don’t get it. Watch the video to understand. These show how teens get influenced. one Christian site talked about it "the persuaders" This one shows how adults get influenced in what to buy who or what vote for, etc. The thing is again that people don’t know where they are being persuaded as the title itself says. People that saw it should reply, and people that did not should not. ------------------ |
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CheeseStorm Member Posts: 521 From: Registered: 11-28-2004 |
My internet will explode if I try watching half-hour shows. Greed does not seem stoppable on a large scale. Personal comfort is too addictive. In Buddhist teachings, ignorance, greed, and anger are the three "poisons". I haven't read the Bible but it sounds like it's got similar ideas. Good stuff. Better parenting would work but I'm very tired and in the "let the idiots waste their lives as they wish" mood. It is a shame about the younger ones, though. Sorry for posting without watching. |
Simon_Templar Member Posts: 330 From: Eau Claire, WI USA Registered: 10-25-2004 |
Hey Cheese, you seem like a fairly knowledgable sort, and you know something of budhism etc.. I'm reading a book right now which I think you might find interesting. It is called "Jesus, Among other Gods" its by a guy named Ravi Zacharias Zacharias was born and raised in India. He was raised in a christian family (though nominal for most of his youth) but is also very familiar with the hindu and budhist teachings/culture since he was surrounded by it his whole life (and his academic study has been in religions and philosophy, the man is brilliant). This is seriously the best book on comparitive religion and philosophy that I have read recently. I highly highly recommend that you find the book, maybe at the library or something, and read it. I really hope you will ------------------ |
buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
hey warsong, there wasn't a video on those pages... lol...i couldn't find it... oh, BTW, who are you to say who can post and who can't? ------------------ |
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CheeseStorm Member Posts: 521 From: Registered: 11-28-2004 |
Well the only religions I know very well are Buddhism and Taoism, and I prefer to think of them as lifestyles, because their core values (none of that karma/reincarnation crap!) aren't about spirits and the after-life. Buddhism = Desires cause suffering. Don't be greedy, but don't deny yourself the essentials just to prove a point. Taoism = Live a simple life. Go with the flow. If you must act, don't do it for personal gain. A university student, while visiting Gasan, asked him: "Have you ever read the Christian Bible?" "No, read it to me," said Gasan. The student opened the Bible and read from St. Matthew: "And why take ye thought for rainment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow. They toil not, neither do they spin, and yet I say unto you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these... Take therefore no thought for the morrow, for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself." Gasan remarked: "That is excellent. Whoever said that is not far from Buddhahood." [This message has been edited by CheeseStorm (edited March 07, 2006).] |
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On the first video it link it says that companies (TV) copy society (people) and exaggerate it, then the society that watch the TV exaggerate it as well, and then the companies copy society again etc which become a downward vicious spiral. It is exactly like a bunch of sheep in a flock, and everyone wants to think they are original and can not be affected but that is when they are. The ones that are not so Christian are affected the most. Another one says how even rebellious kids are not rebellious which is another example of marketing. I guess rebels contradict. lol One thing in the second part is that it caters to people animalistic subconscious to cater to the negative things without people knowing it. One example is the reptile theory in how big cars are bought by people that are more uncivilized than civilized since it caters to their subconscious than logic. It generally shows how the big cars like the SUVs and hummers were made from the start. Something about people wanting to be higher than the other and just like the animal kingdom the animal that is taller intimidates the smaller one and makes the taller one feel more powerful and dominating. It is silly but it works and that is one main reason why they make these silly cars and why they are selling so well. People lost touch with a lot of Christianity even though they say they are Christian. ----- The reason why the others have similar idea is because they have been influenced by the same place which many do not know the origins of Christianity and the others. If people are kept in the dark (ignorant) they are better controlled, which these tactics as the link shows and explain work best if people belong to nothing. In Japan they killed people that were Christians since they knew that took power away form the emperors since they wanted to be worshiped and they wanted full control. I agree that they are more like ideologies, just like atheism, but they are all even atheism considered religion by the courts since it is a lifestyle. Simon Buddboy ------------------ |
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CheeseStorm Member Posts: 521 From: Registered: 11-28-2004 |
Well, I don't believe in a god, but I don't pretend to know. Atheist/agnostic/whatever. I'm just a happy speck of dust. I believe morals are man-made and that we can ignore them, but doing so will wreck society and ourselves, unless we take control of our emotions (meditate!), rather than letting them control us. So I do think it is possible for peace to exist in a lawless society, as long as each individual has found inner peace, rather than lusting after sweet cars and whatnot. Most people, including myself, look outwards for happiness, and become sad when the source is cut off. I'm just finishing school now and out of about 15000 hours of class, ONE hour was spent on meditation. Your other thread about Advertising really ties into this. Commercials of shiny stuff and big burgers takes advantage of our animal instincts. "I'm on the hiiighway to Hell!"
quote: I got lost on this quote, do you mean that most of the world was corrupt, so a lot of different cultures came up with similar "solutions"? |
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Crazed Madman Member Posts: 14 From: New Hampshire USA Registered: 03-10-2006 |
i think he means almost all religions have the same roots ------------------ |
CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
TV (ugh). Regular people really don't do what TV shows them doing. ------------------ ``After three days without programming, life becomes meaningless.'' -- Tao of Programming Book 2 |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Some things I've learned but not practiced from TV: "Cool is what everyone else is, and you are not." "Friends are always something you insult or use for your benefit" "Adults are stupid. You know better" "When life goes wrong, complain and it will get better. If it doesn't, go to extreme anti-whatever you've complained against." "Violence is natural, we can't help it" "Animals are more important than people" "If you don't take advantage of someone, you won't move up in society" "Good people are good because they are "spiritual"" "Religion is for wakos" "Religion is something that is good but not really needed." "You can find inner peace without God" I rarely watch much TV but: "Look what I learned today!" ------------------ ``After three days without programming, life becomes meaningless.'' -- Tao of Programming Book 2 [This message has been edited by CPUFreak91 (edited March 11, 2006).] |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
Here's some I noticed: "It's always a happy ending" "Revenge is never wrong" "Villains are not truly evil, just misunderstood" "Your heart is always right" ------------------ |
goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
In my opinion cool is what you want it to be, not what everyone else follows. Cool is uniqe. wheres the uniqeness in a trend? ------------------ |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
I totally agree, it's uncool to follow fads, though it's cool to start fads yourself  ------------------ |
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buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
lol i liked that CPU... that was funny... ------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: My personal fad: Longish hair, Blue jeans, belt, Black Linux, ThinkGeek or OSS T-Shirts.
------------------ ``After three days without programming, life becomes meaningless.'' -- Tao of Programming Book 2 |
I’ll show you some other interesting things to read later.