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The book "'The Marketing of Evil" explains how the far left media strikes again and explains why everyone votes so high. "The Marketing of Evil" has been almost alone among news media voices to expose "Brokeback" for what it actually is – "a brilliant, emotionally compelling propaganda film using every cinematic trick in the book to glorify homosexuality while maligning heterosexual marriage and family." It is interesting to see how many that claim to be Christian defend the film and attack the author for not being Christian in a way which they are contradicting. This is what happens when Christianity is divided into sects and everyone interprets for themselves. They are all divided than united and they unintentionally help destroy Christianity like some in here do sorry to say. The movie contradicts the morals it tries to brainwash people on. Even if you don't take into account the gay theme you will see that going against values. The obviously high rating just shows how the majority acts like sheep. As the bible says, what is good will considered bad, and what is bad will be considered good, and this movie is a perfect example. Well sooner or later we will see love stories that attack the normal way and favor immoral ways, what next a love story about polygamy, pedophilia, and bestiality, etc or is their no limit to depravity? But they did have movies that slightly hint on themes like that which have been popular and even the parents love them to bring the kids to see movies with subliminal messages which the parents are just as clueless. Also the New film Da Vinci code is also BS since everything it says is not true, and it was in the fiction section and has been debunked many times. The media shows it off all the time and treat it like a history lesson to persuade people. Well what do you expect when 94% of the media is owned by non Christians, (and I don't mean other sects but 100% non Christians) they don’t like he Christian religion and you have Christians paying them to hurt themselves and others. I would call that suicide but hey. ------------------ |
Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
Well.... thats america for you... "WERE SO FREAKING SPOILED WE WANT MORE FREEDOM! LAWS ARE BAD, MAKE EVERYTYING OKAY! WE KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG!" I'm so pissed off at society today... we're spoiled brats, we cry (or sue or whatever) and one idiot can take a good law (no gay marriage, for instance) and crush it. we have too many freedoms, or we take advantage of the freedomes we have. I hate essay writing, but I think an essay is the only way to get it across besides smacking some of these idiots who want more "freedom" with a base ball bat and shouting in their face "IDOT! YOU YELLOW B******, LOOK WHAT YOUR DOING! THIS ISN'T FREEDOM, ITS EVIL PLEASURES YOU WANT TO BE MADE LEGAL!"
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
quote: I felt like taking your words horribly out of context to make you look like a communist. I think people need to mind their own business. We live in a country where, yes, people can glorify homosexuality if they want to. But don't get all upset about it, because you can glorify God if you want to. People are free to be gay, but you are free to be heterosexual. Both sides may catch a little flak from time to time, or be "uncomfortable", but its a small price to pay. Our "freedoms" are clearly layed out. Freedom of press, speech, etc. People will always be ammending the constitution, and this is perfectly fine. Its meant to be a dynamic document. Imagine if our entire country functioned like one of those tiny towns in some obscure state...Where walking across the road in blue jeans on sunday will land you in jail for 45 minutes. Times change, and our laws must adapt. Lets try not to be overly biased in our arguments. It's not that "the liberals are corrupting the country". I'm sick of hearing that. Its a lousy excuse for the real problem. We aren't keeping up with them. The goal should be to maintain the balance, not control those who don't agree with us. There is a line we need to be aware of. On one side, you have devotion to your faith. On the other side is oppresive extremism. Stop putting down other people, or trying to make them do what you think is right. Be an example, and hopefully you can make a difference that way. Remember, if you are a protestant Christian, those that came before you (we'll call 'em the Pilgrims, I suppose) we driven out of their lands on the basis that--- they weren't conforming with what was deemed to be righteous. Just keep that in mind. ------------------ Will the emo kids be my friends now? [This message has been edited by crazyishone (edited March 04, 2006).] |
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Crazy you’re just being crazy. lol The founding fathers knew that for the US to do well it had to have its citizens be generally Christian. When non Christian things bombard society every day and keep attacking it then it is not helping. Too much freedom is not freedom. Everything to moderation as they say. Everyone will want to freedom to do a perverted act. I think I posted about the book in what it says which explains well what happens which you ignore. You say what you say since you don’t get it. But here is a link that might explain more [URL=http://www.townhall.com/opinion/books_entertainment/reviews/LeslieCarbone/184779.html]http://www.townhall.com/opinion/books_entertainment/reviews/LeslieCarbone/184779.html[/UR L] Bombarding all the time negative BS affects people and it doesn’t persuade many. Even Hitler thought what he was doing war right and they thought they were the good guys. Hitler kept saying things until people believe it. Just like the BS Kosovo war how you believe there was Muslim ethnic cleansing which is not true as stated. This is why we have laws and restrictions; even religion doesn’t tell you to do everything and says to not do everything since it has negative consequences. To lie is a sin and all these movies lie and twist what is right to wrong. If you don’t like what is on TV it is not change the channel or turn it off but throw the TV out the window since everything bad been turns to crap. Like Christ said a bad apple doesn’t fall far from a tree. Liberals are against Christian values and many priests do not side with it and neither do most church going Christians. What will you say next that the bible restricts freedom and should be banned? Democracy doesn’t work well when people are fed lies, and when you have to pick a side that act the same then what does that say? The bible brings down all sorts of people since it doesn’t favor [edit]and some people will resent that [/edit]. And that is a dictionary work but since people don't like to hear the true they restrict the freedom to be used as a dictionary term. Even the bible uses the word. The problem is that people don’t even know that they lost freedom and distort it for another. No need to put people as physical slaves they are slaves to other forms of addictions, debt, lies. So yeah, you have the freedom to be a slave, but that is a contradiction and “CRAZY”. ------------------ [This message has been edited by D-SIPL (edited March 06, 2006).] |
buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
lol... not getting into this... not getting into this... lol... just NOT GETTING INTO it.... i REFUSE to be in a topic where christians call other christians communists... lol... just kidding there but i don't really want to get into this... lol... i agree with RM tho so you guys know... then again, maybe i will get into it... i'll sleep on it!! lol... ------------------ |
Ereon Member Posts: 1018 From: Ohio, United States Registered: 04-12-2005 |
Warsong I don't see anything about a bad apple not falling far from the tree in the Bible, also I disagree with your use of language. These people who you refer to as b*****ds are living, breathing humans like you and I, God loves them just like He loves you and I, Jesus died for them just like you and I, and we have the same sin nature in us that causes them to do the things they do. Think about it, there but for God's grace goes you, there but for His lovingkindness and sacrifice go I. "They" are not so horrible or stupid, or weak as you make "them" out to be, in fact "they" could just as easily be "us". I also do not agree with the way you seem to be incessantly complaining. There are too many people complaining, breath costs you nothing, DO something. The problem is not that there is evil and corruption in the world,it has always and will always be there, the problem is that we, as a body, allow the evil and corrupt things to control the atmosphere, to allow the evil and corruption to be stronger in evil and corruption then we are in Christ. In the New Testament Jesus didn't sit back and complain or offer complicated, philosophical solutions from on top of the mountain, he went down to the people who needed help, he helped the leprous, poor, sick, blind, demon posessed, and lame. He was a revolutionary, not just in words, but in actions, He was a catalyst of change, not just someone who talked about it, or complained about how much it was needed. If 1 John 4:4 is right, and "Greater is He that is in us than he that is in the world", if we are in Christ, and He is in us, then why are we simply talking about these horrible, evil things, why aren't we, as children of God and as Christians (which come from the term Little Christ) following the example of Jesus and being catalysts of change. And if we aren't then how dare we sit around and complain about the evil of the world, go out and CHANGE it, don't just talk about it. Even if you can only change one person, do it, it does noone any good to sit around complaining, calling other people names, and other such nonsense. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Ereon (edited March 05, 2006).] |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
There's no point in arguing with warsong. He would change his whole argument before agreeing with somebody. Better yet, he'd change your argument to his favor. Yeah....thats more like it. Warsong, you should think about who you are calling "******* " and putting down. I, by definition, am a ******* .
quote: I fit definition #1, and I suppose #2 follows in the same pattern. #3 though... well sir, that would be you. You are a troll. Always have been, and apparently always will be. I think even if somebody replied to this thread in total agreement with you, you would still manage to go against them. Perhaps tell them they didn't understand the concept well enough to speak about it? Why is somebody ignorant because they arent informed by your sources? There's something called civil debatel and there's something called "ad hominem": attacking a person's character rather than their argument. When most of the people of this site ignore your threads, and the people that don't only find it in them to oppose you, it should tell you something. Maybe you should just give up. So, having been "trolled", I have decided to stoop to your level. (I dont have much to lose.) ------------------ Will the emo kids be my friends now? [This message has been edited by crazyishone (edited March 05, 2006).] [This message has been edited by crazyishone (edited March 05, 2006).] |
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
mmmm...bacon. i like bacon....anybody else like bacon? ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
lol, I LOVE bacon  what do you like better, the really crunchy kind or the more chewy kind?------------------ [This message has been edited by lava (edited March 05, 2006).] |
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buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
lol... i like a combination of both... not too crunchy, not too chewy, but more on the chewy side. go crazy!! liked the 'change your argument to his favor' lol... good research there... did you look that up in a real dictionary or online? lol... ------------------ |
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CheeseStorm Member Posts: 521 From: Registered: 11-28-2004 |
Crazyishone for the WIN! Anyway, Brokeback Mountain and the Da Vinci Code are FICTION. They can't hurt you. Whining about our freedom is sick. Any idea how many hundreds of millions of people would want to trade places with us? Yet we use our freedom and money to whine about this stuff. |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
Just so you guys know, Brokeback Mountain did NOT win best picture at the Oscars (thankfully). As I just watched it get awarded to Crash. ------------------ [This message has been edited by lava (edited March 05, 2006).] |
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Realm Master Member Posts: 1971 From: USA Registered: 05-15-2005 |
Midway between the two, really really cripsy bacon is good, but not black bacon, nada! But really chewy bacon is good too! I LOVE BACON! ------------------ Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right. PM ME YOUR DESCRIPTION OF ME! ILL PUT IT HERE! |
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Crazy I was not attacking your character but your argument. “12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.” That comes about from too much freedom as well which that can only come out of fornication; shall I quote where the bible disagrees with that too? Again no one is attacking your character, I am stating the facts and I don’t candy coat so you can just call me harsh, but I am not mean to others. No need for you to be ashamed, so don’t take things personal. I bet you are thinking negative but let me say that I am not judging and God decides, I was pointing out examples and people can listen to turn away. But you might want to support the other freedom than my freedom, but whatever the case you got my point or agree it you paid attention no matter what position you take now, so I would call that a checkmate. Don’t get mad buddy, “18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.“ “God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.“ Eron I an informing people to understand and watch out for the car not to hit them, but some “complain” like you to say that I should not point out that a car will hit another and just tell the person that will get hit with the car to look away to a brighter side than to avoid the car that will hit them. Obviously the truth is not pretty and you will blindly attack someone that want to help you. Just like the coffee post how some come quickly to defend their addiction than to stop it and I can not help them more than just posting and others have to stop complain and think on how they can be better Christians. ------Again for people that did not get the first example of why too much freedom is fake freedom here is some more info. People don’t get that things influence others which is why things are getting worse and people use stupid excuses and distort words like freedom. You do not have the freedom to destroy others peoples lives, if you want to mess up a life mess your own life up and for you not to influence others. Anyone that does so does not act Christian. I will show a PBS story in the next post about how kids get brainwashed. The people that think they are invincible and can not be influenced as the ones that get influenced the most since that is when their guard is down. Too little freedom is bad too much freedom is bad, just like drinking no water (liquid), or drinking too much is bad. Look on Christian sites what they say about too much freedom and you will see plenty of examples. The freedom to want to commit debauchery only brings misery and others forms of slavery. Like someone else said for a barbarian to have freedom to do anything is slavery for the civilized person. Know what you talk about then come back and post. So in other words some want to support a “false freedom” and many do since they don’t know better and will end of getting their anarchist dreams come slowly true. Also the fact that the government understands that too much freedom is dangerous since more freedom mean less security, and that too much security means less freedom, and so their has to be a balance. I bet no one took constitutional law in here but people want to talk like they know. PS funny how bennythebear changes topic about bacon. ------------------ |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
Who here loves the smell and sound of bacon cooking? ------------------ |
D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Swearing edited... --D-SIPL ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
Yes, warsong, I agree that "freedom" to do certain things will cause others to be less "free". Thats why most of our laws set forth certain paremeters for the freedoms they provide. Free speech, as long as it isnt slander. Right to protest, as long as its civil and nonviolent, etc. Moral grey area is, unfortunately, leading to legal grey area. Its really up to the people passing the laws. I suppose there are three things we can do to try and defend the integrity of this nation. 1)Make sure that, if we can, we vote. It's important that we vote for senators and the like. 2)"leftist" lobbying is the subject of alot of humor, but it seems to be working. If Christians put as much pressure on the decision makers as these lobbyists do, we would probably be met with more success. 3)Start "taking control". There's no reason a Christian should only be a leader at church. If, say, you've got a kid in elementary, and evolution is being taught as fact rather than theory, what can you do? Well, get involved. See what can be changed. Now I know that there are groups and individuals who do these things, but there's not enough of them. Any "leftist" will tell you exactly what they believe, why they think its right, and then they'll try to make it official. If even half of the "Christians" tried to be this dedicated, I'm sure we'd be living in a different America. ------------------ Will the emo kids be my friends now? |
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Ereon Member Posts: 1018 From: Ohio, United States Registered: 04-12-2005 |
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bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
i like a mix of crunchy and chewy. and i really like the smell of bacon cooking. speaking of food, i need to go eat.  ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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Dsiple Stating an example, and no one was being targeted, which you did not edit the bible when it said the word or the other times.  Lets not be politically correct, what next for Christians to hide or edit the word fornication since it will offend the majority.Crazy Ereon [This message has been edited by warsong (edited March 06, 2006).] |
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buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
yay!! what's crash? ------------------ |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
A movie about a cop, I've never seen it. http://imdb.com/title/tt0375679/ ------------------ |
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buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
lol... oh yah i remember hearing about it... lol... ------------------ |
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Ereon Member Posts: 1018 From: Ohio, United States Registered: 04-12-2005 |
Once again the Bible doesn't say anything of the sort. Any once again you misunderstand me. I'm not saying force them, I'm saying help them. Minister to them, don't just talk about how bad things are. If, through your ministry and witness audiences stopped watched Brokeback Mountain and all the other movies and media you are talking about, then how long do you think the makers of those movies and media would keep making them, how much damage do you calculate would be done, and how much brainwashing would they be able to do? It is difficult to respect a man or woman who only stand atop the soap box and preach about how everyone else is a bunch of wimps and losers for not fixing things and complain about how bad everything is and how the whole world is going to Hell when they never get off of their soapbox and do something to change those very things they're complaining about. ------------------ |
ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
Crash isn't a movie about a cop, but a bunch of people whose paths cross and the drama and social ills surrounding all their lives. I did see it and it was pretty good, if you can ignore the offensive content, namely the profanity. ------------------ |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
I stand corrected ------------------ |
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buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
lol... don't we all? ------------------ |
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bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
the bacon is dead, and the cook is gone. ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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Ereon You don’t get it and you ignored the point. It doesn’t matter how many people watches the movie broke back mountain or other junk. It was expected to loose money and was a propaganda film. As I stated when you are surrounded by everything being bad people will see eventually the lesser of the evil and they keep pushing the envelope in that what was the worst 50 years ago is not the lesser of the evil today. The majority of the movies that came out or were in the awards would have gotten attacked 50 years ago but the more they push it on people the more people accept. And people say it is normal. If you look at the definition of the world which again people have problems with definitions lately since its offensive lol the word normal mean the norm in that what is what the majority do. People get confused normal for natural, and just because something is normal does not mean that it is always good. Since you need help to get it I will explain more in a new post about marketing for you and for others that don’t get it. ------------------ |
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Lava Member Posts: 1905 From: Registered: 01-26-2005 |
quote: I agree, now what can be done about it? ------------------ [This message has been edited by lava (edited March 06, 2006).] |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
quote: Well i edited it. Fornication is fine use it as much as you want... no b words though --D-SIPL ------------------ |
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buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
lol... who said that? ------------------ |
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Lava One thing is to not watch it and explain to others not to. People vote with money every time they buy something and it automatically supports the company to make more. If the company says many things that are against your view then you may be taking pleasure in the short term with their product but in the long run they benefit the most. It is like taking 1 step forward two steps back. People was persuaded easily like sheep as the other posts points out, and they do not have guidance as much like the church since many now are semi religious in how they follow it. It is nice to see some people that try like everyone in here unlike other programming sites which consist of many ignorant easily persuaded atheists, but even here some don’t get it and pick up bad habits.
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CheeseStorm Member Posts: 521 From: Registered: 11-28-2004 |
I thought D-SIPL was talking about the censorship of the word "fornication" and not the thing it describes. *edit* removed some stuff... the ignorant questioning the ignorant, that's what atheism vs. monotheism is. [This message has been edited by CheeseStorm (edited March 08, 2006).] |
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buddboy Member Posts: 2220 From: New Albany, Indiana, U.S. Registered: 10-08-2004 |
lol he was!! Warsong just has to nit-pick... lol... ------------------ |
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D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
quote: Yeh thats what i was talking about. --D-SIPL ------------------ |
No it’s not. lol It’s easy to take people to think negative and take things out of context which some do in here and more extreme liberals take it intentionally or unintentionally out of context. But I know what you mean.