CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
I have two sources: wikipedia and parents who say that dungeons and dragons games are bad. Thus my final conclusion: Is NetHack (was known as Hack and rouge) a bad game? Cause I was planning onw downloading it but will wait for feedback. ------------------ ``After three days without programming, life becomes meaningless.'' -- Tao of Programming Book 2 |
HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
It's extremely addictive -- I just started a month-long abstinence from the game this past weekend because I've been playing it way too much. It's not Christian if that's what you're asking. It is role-playing, about as much as Zelda is. It's very religious, and a lot of the game centers around deities -- mainly Greek/Roman/Norse mythology, praying to the deities, altar-sacrifices to dieties and characters such as Medusa, demons such as Jubilex, Demogorgon and Baelzebub, there are incantations and a ritual involving the Book of the Dead that's required in order to beat the game. Fun, addictive, pagan. It's fairly standard as far as dungeons-and-dragons stuff seems to go, though it does have a fairly involved system of dieties and our interactions with them (which, again, is drawn mainly from mythology). Cheers! --clint |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Allright, I'll explain that to my parents and see if I can play it. Thanks! ------------------ ``After three days without programming, life becomes meaningless.'' -- Tao of Programming Book 2 |
bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
that doesn't sound like a game i would play, especially the whole praying to other gods thing. but i also play games with magic, and lots of blood and body parts(ds2, so it's all monsters)...so i don't really have much room to talk. i had a copy of nethack once i think, but have never been able to find another copy that was 3d...weird... ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
Ereon Member Posts: 1018 From: Ohio, United States Registered: 04-12-2005 |
I like that kind of game, as long as it allows me to not choose a "diety" if I have to. I got kicked off of a MUD for refusing to "worship" one of the player "gods". Wasn't pretty  .------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
I'm useing SLASHEM which lets u save and has a pretty gui too. ------------------ ``After three days without programming, life becomes meaningless.'' -- Tao of Programming Book 2 |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
Slash'em is a *lot* harder than plain vanilla Nethack. Nethack also lets you save, and also has a GUI (though I prefer text mode myself). If you really want a pretty gui, noeGNUd and Vulture's Eye (or Vulture's Claw for Slash'em) are both two very nice clients, though Vulture's is under more active development. My preference is still text mode -- though I did start out with gui's. Cheers! --clint |
D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
I'm not a fan of the whole Dungeon and Dragons thing. I don't reccommend the young people in our church play those kind of games. The handbook says "…that goodness has no absolute values. Although many things are commonly accepted as good (helping those in need, protecting the weak) different cultures impose their own interpretations on what is good and what is evil." What do other people think? --D-SIPL ------------------ |
Gamer4Christ Member Posts: 551 From: Kokomo, Indiana, USA Registered: 07-19-2005 |
I think it is an evil game at heart, I mean with all of the deities you can 'worship', and the magic in the game. And the fact that the played can do ANYTHING he wanted to. BUT... there is always a but... in the right hands it has the potential of being a wholesome game, and could even be a good witnessing tool. If a Christian were the one deciding what happens in the game, and if he were to decide to make it a realistic table-top pen and paper rpg then there would be no problem. The DM (Dungeon master) has the ultimate power of deciding what skills can be learned, if magic can be used, if you can select a deity... and they can add anything they want, and apply it with some preset rules for creating stuff. So I think it is an EVIL, VILE game... but in the right hands can be a wholesome game. I used to play it, trust me it never got to the evil point in my house... I am planning to make an entire Christian Table-top rpg (basically follows the same rules, just is Christian at heart), so that any Christian who wants to play a table-top rpg but is afraid to play DnD has something.  Anyway that is my two cents, lol.------------------ |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
Aren't you doing a Christian dungeons and dragons game, HanClinto? ------------------ ``After three days without programming, life becomes meaningless.'' -- Tao of Programming Book 2 |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
Not D&D, no, but it's meant to cater to a lot of the same crowd. What I'm trying to do is create an adventure game that is with similar feel to D&D, but with Christianity as its roots, as opposed to just tacked onto the surface. I don't want to just rename "Magic Missile" to "Holy Missile" and change "Mana Points" to "Prayer Points" -- that's not what I want to do. D-SIPL did a great thing by pointing out where D&D is fundamentally flawed in its underlying world view. With a worldview like moral relativism built into the core of the game (in the alignment system), there's no way to change that well-balanced integration of systems without upsetting the whole game and making it feel hokey and unnatural. So I've been experimenting with creating a game that is founded on a Christian worldview, and seeing how to have Chrisitanity come out through the mechanics of the gameplay as opposed to merely coming out through a Bible verse that pops up every now and then. D&D teaches moral relativism through the way the game mechanics work. I want Christian games to teach Christian principles (such as the existence Absolute Truth) through the mechanics of the game. So no, it won't have anything from D&D other than the feel and style of the game -- no content, gameplay, storylines, characters, or terminology will be borrowed from D&D. --clint |
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CPUFreak91 Member Posts: 2337 From: Registered: 02-01-2005 |
quote: Ah, I see now... ------------------ ``After three days without programming, life becomes meaningless.'' -- Tao of Programming Book 2 |
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bennythebear Member Posts: 1225 From: kentucky,usa Registered: 12-13-2003 |
any link to get more info on your game hanclitno? it sounds like it's going to be a great game. i would iike to see a well desidned Christian game, i personally feel an rpg would the best way to go about it, simply because you're more into the game(hence role-playing), and it's the only way i can see to have a very in-depth and meaningful storyline. but all of this could be do to the fact that rpg's are my favorite type of game.  ------------------ proverbs 25:7 www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs |
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HanClinto Administrator Posts: 1828 From: Indiana Registered: 10-11-2004 |
Hey, Pops! Er, I mean Benny! Here's a thread where I posted some information about the game: Basically I'm probably not going to flesh this out into a huge game, but rather I want it to be a small but complete sample game that comes with the Mite engine that I'm developing. It doesn't do everything that I would like a game to do (as far as communicating a Christian worldview), but I think it's a good start. I think it also does a decent job of providing the D&D feel without borrowing any of the content, but maybe that's just my personal opinion. Cheers! --clint |
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Thegpfury Member Posts: 53 From: Registered: 03-23-2006 |
Sorry to Rez an old topic. Nethack is interesting, I never much cared for it. I tend to play more Angband/ToME. I actually did my own roguelike, called FuryBand, which doesn't have all the problems that nethack has. ------------------ |
