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Job 39:25 – firemaker103

firemaker103

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This is sort of childish, but anyway....
The bible actually says, "Ha, Ha!"
(Imagines simpsons)

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Jari

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Notice that it's a horse that says it.

Here's the word definition:

H1889
האח
he'âch
heh-awkh'
From H1887 and H253; aha!: - ah, aha, ha.


PS. I hate simpsons, it mocks God a lot.

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I don't think so. they poke fun at christians, but also at the same time show a good side. like flanders. poked fun at, but viewed and recognized as an all around good guy. a very ripped guy.
they are much more classy about it then most shows.

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Jari

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quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:
I don't think so. they poke fun at christians, but also at the same time show a good side. like flanders. poked fun at, but viewed and recognized as an all around good guy. a very ripped guy.
they are much more classy about it then most shows.


Maybe you haven't seen the series what I have seen or maybe you just accept it because other shows are even worse?

In one serie homer was genius and he proofed to ned flanders that god did not exist and flanders was like "oh no hes right" but he ignored it. Also in simpsons flanders doesnt know how planes can fly, he hides in bunker with his kids because the end of world is coming, he's kids are like machines with no emotions, etc.
So it really doesn't promote Christinanity when the "true believer" is ignorant and wierd.
And the humor in simpsons is either pervert or cruel.

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For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me. - Psa 69:9
He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. - Joh 12:25

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eh, i dont watch that stuff...
3 or 4 episodes of family guy but... not normally...

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the family guy and the simpsons are pretty much in line with each other, but the family guy is worse. on the simpsons there's also an episode where flanders is satan. it's not a good show, but a lot of people(including myself) seem to watch stuff regularly that we shouldn't watch.

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hmm... on the episodes all i saw were a bunch of swat guys firing MP5's at fleas...

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point taken, no more family guy...

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Yeah, I have seen a couple of Christian mocking episodes myself of the simpsons, I prefer to stay away from mature animated shows, family guy, king of the hill, futurama, simpsons, etc.

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hmm...

i've NEVER liked the simpons, never watched it.

or king of the hill, or futurerama, or whatever else you said...

just about 3 or 4 episodes of family guy, some parts were funny, some were... well...

yeah.

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Peter: As we all know, Christmas is that mystical time of year when the ghost of Jesus rises from the grave to feast on the flesh of the living! So we all sing Christmas Carols to lull him back to sleep.

Bob: Outrageous, How dare he say such blasphemy. I've got to do something.

Man #1: Bob, there's nothing you can do.

Bob: Well, I guess I'll just have to develop a sense of humor.

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wait a sec.....king of the hill is NOT a bad show.

they are all extremely conservative and go to church every sunday. and it isnt portrayed in a negative way. its more like a humorous view of the daily lives of content, conservative texans who will "have none of THAT!"...

just cuz a show is targeted toward adults doesnt mean its "adults only".

and btw: despite the obvious anti-christian stuff, u who have seen it have to admit family guy is funny. And the simpsons makes fun of everyone, not just christians. so take it all in stride--you're not being picked on. its all in good humor. try not to get so offended.

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yah. i should think of something funny, amusing, or wise....
not right now. too taxing on my feeble and exhausted mind.

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oy guys....


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I'm not trying to rekindle the fire, but I have a question.

Yes, "I" should not be offended, but does it matter if I am offended, if I watched Looney Tunes and they started making fun of ME, I would not be offended, people make fun of me all of the time, it doesn't bug me. So my question is should we be concerned if God is offended?

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Jari

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quote:
Originally posted by lava:
So my question is should we be concerned if God is offended?

Yes absolutely. Like it says in psalm 69:9:

For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me.


God is holy and there's no joke in earth that makes God laugh. And what does God think about wicked man who makes fun of Him? Well He is ready to forgive everything...

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For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me. - Psa 69:9
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i see your point. From a christian perspective, God would be offended. From the view of a muslim, Allah would be offended by jokes targeted at Islam.

Every1 is offended...blech.

Lemme see if anybody agrees with me on a different point:::

In america, we have two extremes::: extreme racism, and political correctness.

u have an abundance of supremist groups and underlying racism, and on the other hand it seems like everyone is worried about offending somebody.
here's a few examples of overdoing political correctness:::

--kids TV shows all seem to have a person from every conceivable race as a part of the "group", regardless of story.

--if there is ever a bully, it is made sure that he is the :big mean white boy", haha.

--outward racism towards african americans and latins is a huge "no-no", but nobody says anything when a caucasian is victim of racism. Its like they're afraid to. Anybody can {theoretically} get away with anything. alll they have to do is claim to be a part of a minority}

--for instance, if I committed a crime, there are so many ways to get out of it. "I am from an underpriviledged neighborhood!" "I suffer from mental illness due to childhood experiences." "I'm gay."


You see, everyone is sooo afraid to deal with that kind of stuff. True equality means that race, sex, orientation, and religion shouldnt be a factor, right? We are so busy pretending equality that we actually fuel the stereotypes.

i say we "get over it". THat guy commited a crime. period. that tv show has people. not "white people" or "black people"...just people.

but hey, u and I know that true equality is impossbile, and if it were possible, it would suck. {boring}

every demographic has good and bad {stereotypical} attributes. lets just accept it and stop pretending they don't exist.


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yah. i should think of something funny, amusing, or wise....
not right now. too taxing on my feeble and exhausted mind.

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:: ops:::

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Jari

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Yeah I think you are right crazyishone, people are afraid to deal with stuff like that, but I don't know how does this relate to offending God. Because people don't want to be considered as rasist because they might have to pay the consequences if they are sued or so, but what comes to God, He has no lawer in earth and Christians don't sue any one for blashemy.

And the idea of Christinanity in america is very differend from the way I see it, because people could call homer simpsons a Christian because he prays at the dinner table and goes to church while he really is living like a pagan and has nothing to do with following Christ.

So I could be wrong but it looks like Christinatity is like the white skin color in the america - people are not afraid to mock it because majority report christinaity as their religion. But islam on the other hand is the black skin color which is why people are more careful not to mock muslims.
Though the terrorist war has probably provoked some people to hate muslims.


And why is Lord Jesus Christ our God who became flesh to save the souls of those who are lost insulted? Because He speaks the Truth in the Bible which many hate and people would rather see homer simpson like "christians" than the truth.

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Wow... That was a really good post jari... lotta stuff in there... I really like coming on here because there is so much collective wisdom and everybody can come up with something to say... It's great!!

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@jari-- i was intending the "offending god" thing to be seperate from the second part of my post. anyway, i really agree with what you say about majority being easier to target. Its unfortunate, but to be expected. I get called cracker, no big deal. I call an african american a "nigger", they'd probably make me wish I hadnt.

Somebody coined a stupid and senseless term for that--- "reverse racism".

By the def. of the word racism, its racism no matter who is targeted. Calling it "reverse racism" when whites are the victims is just....stupid. So much has changed in the last 50-60 years. Some for the better, some for the worse.
There is greater equality (on the surface), and discrimination is less of a problem. Ironically, the tables have been turned on caucasian americans. 50 years ago if it was white v. black in court, the black guy might as well lock himself up. Now, a white person wouldn't dare take a minority member to court. :-P

so, what appears to be equality is just mutual tolerance forced by legislation. I dont dislike people for their ethnicity, i dislike them based on an attitude that is often found. I'm getting really sick of the "gangster/diva" crap...there is so much pride there. Can't bump into a black guy in the hall without it being a big ordeal, with lotsa yelling and {ebonics? speelin' checck pleese}...

And I am sure people get sick of how white people {stereotypically} walk around like they own the world.

(and yes, I know there are exceptions to every stereotype. I went to a new school recently, and one of the few people who talked to me right away was a black kid. He didn't care that I was white, and he didn't act like he just finished shooting a rap video. :-P )

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yah. i should think of something funny, amusing, or wise....
not right now. too taxing on my feeble and exhausted mind.

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I watch Simpsons sometimes, you have to admit that it is really funny. I think that it's ridiculous, but indeed funny. Their ideas of Christianity is very accurate to the way that many people outside the church (and sadly some who think they're inside it) view it. That's pretty sad... I don't think that Flanders is supposed to be a real Christian btw. Or perhaps he is to the authors... but in reality he'd be a fake.

King of the Hill is a pretty decent show, funny as well. Very conservative. But those characters are kinda hard to look at! Yuck! :P

About racisim. God has one race, and that's the human race. That said, I don't think that we should drop all stereotypes. But I also don't think that race should play a part in it, but instead the persons background and culture should. We should view the cultural stereotypes in a positive light, as a means of reaching people from different backgrounds in different ways. We as Christians should try to view people including those from different cultures in the way that Jesus does.

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Crazyishone, i have one problem with that post. You said that there are always exceptions to the stereotype, i think that yes, there are a lot of blacks like that, but not so many that you should make it sound like they are rare who aren't like that. just that one thing to say!!

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i have moved about 50 times in my 16 yr. life, and I can say that the greater percentage of Afrcian American people (that are in my age range) are the embodiment of that stereotype. And why shouldn't they be. They are expected to be. I just personally don't like the attitude/culture. I don;t really like the music, the clothes, etc... It doesnt appeal to me. I don't hate the people, I dislike their current "culture". I've never met an old black woman who wasnt EXTREMELY nice to me. :-P
I hope I am clear.

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yah. i should think of something funny, amusing, or wise....
not right now. too taxing on my feeble and exhausted mind.

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I myself am of the dark-skinned, African race (the term African American just never made any sense to me) I won't deny that some black people in America are of the stereotype that you talk about, but it doesn't matter.

Crazyishone, are you aware that there are Christians of that stereotype? Christians who dress lose and go into the mission-fields... the neighborhoods of the gangs, drugs, violence etc.. and are effective witnesses of Christ? I'm sure you already know this, but you're going to have to live with the fact that the stereotype you speak of is going to be around for your whole life, and also accept that you must love people and see them as Christ does no matter what type of background they are from.

Respect of persons is not approved of by God. That means if you treat or think of someone wrongly because they are of a different race, have less money, have more money, are more educated, are less educated, etc.. etc... Then you need to repent, ask God for forgiveness, and turn away from that mindset.

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Your love, O Lord, reaches to the heavens, your faithfulness to the skies.
Your righteousness is like the mighty mountains, your justice like the great deep.
O Lord , you preserve both man and beast.
How priceless is your unfailing love!

crazyishone

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i didnt say i hated the people. I dislike the hip-hop/rap subculture, but its a personal preference issue, not a matter of racial discrimination.

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