fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
I'm planning on purchasing a PSP in two days, and I'd like to use the bible text in HTML on it, but #1 is the bible translations copyright? #2 can you make a search option in HTML ------------------ [This message has been edited by fingolfin (edited November 13, 2005).] |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
yeah.... bible texts seem to be copyright... this could pose a problem... ------------------ |
crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
are you serious? That's not just...public knowledge? Gah. Well, you can add something to the beginning of each page like.... {from NKJV} or something like that. You know, fineprint.  ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
you can, but you have to ask permission to use it (so says the ESV and NIV web sites). Not just use it and put some acknowledgement... I might do that, but if I wanted to use three translations... it would be harder... ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
well, the original KJV isn't copyrighted, so I COULD start with that... sorry for posting aftermyself... ------------------ |
Briant Member Posts: 742 From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada Registered: 01-20-2001 |
There are many many Bibles that do not have copyrights that you could use for this project. Basically anything older than 100 years is public domain, plus there are several recent versions that are public domain as well. I should be able to find a list for you if you are interested. As for searching, I don't know how you would do that on a PSP without writing the software yourself. ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
that's okay, I could just make an indes. I also own a ESV, so I could make one for personal use (non-distrubited) since I own it. ... I could just do that, and then make a KJV version to distrubute... ------------------ |
D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
Check out the SWORD project, its on sourceforge. --D-SIPL ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
OOOOOOOOO thanks! ------------------ |
Max Member Posts: 523 From: IA Registered: 09-19-2004 |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
It just the translation that is copyright. The Greek and hebrew versions aren't. I didn't get a PSP today, and might not for a little while (I need to wait for a sale, and it either needs to be a sale at best buy or one that best buy will price match, because I have $80 in credit there) But, I'll look at the demensions of the screen, and format my pages from there. Downloading Sword and all free/open source translations right now. ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
PSP Screen width: 3.748 in. (aprox.) Hight (aprox.) 2.108 in. So... How would I resize a web page to fit those dimensions? (or do I have to take a different approach) (Looking at Eph. 2:1-10, which I'm currently memorizing in the ESV, I've made a list of public domain versoins to size and convert for the PSP) Versions I'm going to work on: also, it there a way to hyperlink with out giving the parent folders (i.e. if I had a page in the My Document folder, could just I make the hyper link my document\bible\page.html, instead of C:\my documents\bible\page.html?) Yeah, buying a PSP would be good, I just need a sale... ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
im a little confused. does the PSP have web browsing capabilities, or are you talking about connecting it to a PC and transferring the files over, for your own personal use? If it is for direct transfer to YOUR psp, then i belive the parent folder doesnt matter. what matters is that your "homepage" is at the top. so, we'll say your homepage, lets call it a.htm, is in C:\My Documents\My Webs\web page\. If you want to link to another file, u just need to specify the file name or, if it is in a subfolder, specify that as well. example:: Now, lets say you have images too. these are perhaps stored in C:\My Documents\My Webs\web page\images. so, u just need the folder they are in, not the whole address.
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
yes that does, I probably coulda figured it out, but I've doing some other things (blog = www.PSPbible.blogspot.com) Also I'm hoping on hosting it both as an online text, and as a download that could be viewed off the memory stick (and therefore everywhere, not just where there is Wi-Fi. ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
good idea. perhaps put a button on the site that size "download this site to your PSP's memory card!" not only does this help complete internet-foreigners , but I am not sure what kind of browser capabilities are on a PSP, by default. If there is no Save Target As or Save Link AS option, then a dl button will be an absolute necessity, even tho it does the same thing, (fortunately tho, the viewer wont have to go to each individual page, they can download the whole site at once.) one drawback of the dl ovr wi-fi for the PSP<:::: ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
yeah, a download button would be nice! I've got the first chapter in Eph. done in the WEB (no hyperlinks yet) It appears there isn't any sort of frame for the browser (http://srika.com/img/psp/Google.jpg) or you can make it full screen, so that is good to know. The verse makers aren't gonna look that great, because instead of superscript they are just numbers.. oh well... ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
did u mean verse markers? i dont mean to correct yer spelling, i just lost the concept because i cant tell if its makers or markers. Anyway, are you just copy-pasting all of the text, or are you actually typing it all in from a hardcopy reference? That would take forever. :-P ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
oops, marker lol... copy and paste, but I need to copy it to a frame in open ofice, and then to notepad (to covert it back to text) and then to frontpage. ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
wow. what is the point of copying it into open office first? coudlnt u just copy from the SWORD thing, paste into an HTML document, or better yet, an HTA application. can a psp handle an hta app? it should be able, since it can interpret html. I guess its ability to recognize css/javascript and any other factors of DHTML will give u your outcome. ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
well, the only reason I would move it to open office was so I could determine the hight, but that proved to be extremly useless. I was thinking of making the entire page the same hight and width of the PSP, and linking the pages, but that would take forever, since I'd by copying and pasting forever... SO, I'm just going by chapter and then linking the chapters, unless for some reason you can't scroll with the PSP browser, but I doubt that. EDIT: yes you can scroll, it be pretty useless if you couldn't, and this project is now a 100 times easier. I just figured I'd try the hardest way and simplify as I got into it. ------------------ "Mothers are the necessity of invention" -Calvin [This message has been edited by fingolfin (edited November 15, 2005).] |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
allrgiht! what i think u can do from here is put each book of the bible on one loooong page. The width would need to be fixed, for ease of reading. So, you will have 66 pages. ::Genesis:: :Chapter 1: :Chapter 2: ::Exodus::
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
Ephesians done, and a bunch of mattew, the thing that is taking so long is putting a space inbetween the verse marker and the next word. I have to go over the whole chapter... I could, but I was just thinking of having an index and chapters on seperate pages, because SWORD displays things by chapter, it would be easy enough to start with an index of all the books, and then go to an index of all the chapters, like such book Chapter book Chapter book Chapter ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
well, releasing two versions would be pointless, lol. Umm..let me think.... You will still need to master the linking within a page. Not for every single verse, of course. That would be tedious and somewhat pointless. You will probably want to go with "Go to Top" "Go to Bottom" and "Go to Mid" links. ------------------ [This message has been edited by crazyishone (edited November 15, 2005).] |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
the having two versions would mean that the version you suggested I would host online as one page, which would be easy for the wi-fi users, and then for people like me who doen't use a wireless network, the second version, but I'm just working on one right now :-) yeah... I dunno, the PSP screen gets about 6 verses on it, so I think a top and bottom links might be good... so you would have at the top of the page PREVIOUS CHAPTER (or BACK), BOTTOM, INDEX, and NEXT CHAPTER (or next) I think that would work well, I dunno about a middle... ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
i think u've got it right on the money, but i think there is a catch. If it is on the internet, normal, computer-based web browsers should be able to view it as well, and in a much larger size than the PSP's fixed width. You should have an option on the intro page for whether its bein viewed on computer or psp and all that stuff. ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
now that would be good, and very easy to do, so if/when I do get a site up I would definately do that. How do you tell if an image is copyright or public use if there is nothing saying either, or the page is in another language? I would just assume the pictures are copyright, but I'd like to find a free stock photo of the PSP... Got 1/11 of the bible done without hyperlinks (Matthew, Mark, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians) so this project is going quite well, and hopefuly will not end up getting very complicated :-) ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
i think this is a really good idea and i am glad to see it coming to fruition. I may be able to help you set up all the hyperlinks. I get bored buring the day and need something tedious to do, lol. :-P ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
yeah same here, I registed the blog site at the major search engines... and I'll work some more on it after school. ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
Got Luke done, and a whole web site/subdomain setup http://pspbible.ne1.net/ It's just a placeholder for now, but it's nice to have! ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
yeah, got John, 1 john, 2 john, 3 john, jude, james, 1 peter, 2 peter, and philemon done yesterday, as well as finding a host (it's got a 500 mb per month limit, 16.7 mb per day bandwith limit... no FTP, 15 mb limit, but it's a highly respected host, so I'm hoping there will be no downtime unless my bandwidth is exceeded...) Today I've signed up for another free host (http://www.webhosting4free.org/) which has unlimited bandwith, 505mb storage, no FTP, uploaded files can't be over 1 MB (which is fine because I'm just putting up lots of pages with text) I'll try using the second host for a larger size version of the PSP Bible site, and the first host for the smaller one... ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
I got the New Testament resized. Now I jsut need to hyperlink it together before releasing it as Beta. ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
 my sites banner. What dy'a think? ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
PSP World English Bible, BETA v0.1 (I just like to add #'s to the title... not sure what 0.1 means yet...) is OUT!!!!!!! not yet ready for download, I e-mailed it to CCGR, and well... I have to get around to uploading to +CGO+, but my laptop which holds that data screen get cracked (dunno how) it's a MAJOR pain to boot it (it alreay has a dead CMOS battery, so it takes like 2 min to boot cuz I have to turn it on, set the time, and turn off->on fast enough to keep the time (it's alway 01/01/01)) so it takes forever... anyway, getting a PSP in 1 WEEK!!!! I've already got custom PlayGear Pocket PSP Bible Skins, ------------------ |
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crazyishone Member Posts: 1685 From: Registered: 08-25-2004 |
care to give a site link that works? ------------------ |
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fingolfin Member Posts: 197 From: IL Registered: 03-19-2005 |
lol... PGPBible Skin  AltoidsBible Skin  :-) ------------------ |
