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Interesing article in how porno messed up peoples lives. Well we should thanks the 2 Jewish brothers that help make the prono movie industry. I seen a commercial on tv about a another Jewish family that runs a big porno movie company on HBO or showtime. No christian values in that vacinity.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/entertainment/reviews.nsf/book/story/226096145001675A8625708300062AC2?OpenDocument

"In her new book, journalist Pamela Paul sets out to scare readers about the
effects of pornography on American society, and she succeeds mightily. Her
weapon of choice is statistics. For instance:
The adult film industry produces 11,000 films a year.
Americans rent more than 800 million pornographic videos and DVDs each
year, which accounts for about one in five of all rented movies.
In California alone, pornographic materials bring in $9 billion to $14
billion a year.
Some 260 million pages of pornography are available on the Internet.
Pornographic sites are visited three times more often than Google, Yahoo!
and MSN Search combined.

Paul, a contributor to Time magazine, claims that many people eager to
defend their right to erotica don't understand just what's out there or how
the plethora of pornography is affecting our society. She writes of a
recently issued movie, made in America, that shows male actors costumed as
Arabs taking sexual revenge for the abuses at Abu Ghraib Prison on female
actors dressed as soldiers.

She writes of 14-year-olds making pornographic videos and setting up
pornographic Web sites. And she writes that the days of a 10-year-old boy
finding a copy of Playboy in his parents' bedroom are long over: Today,
that youngster's first experience with pornography well may be watching
extreme sex acts on the family's computer.

Pornography also is changing relationships. Paul reports that older men lie
about their "hobby," spending hours "catching up on work" on home
computers. Many younger men watch porn on their office computers all day.
As a result, men of all ages increasingly are dissatisfied with their sex
lives, claiming that spouses or partners fail to exhibit the same
enthusiasm for sex in general and for sexual experimentation as the women
in the pornographic movies.

"Real sex has lost its magic," a 28-year-old man told Paul. A 34-year-old
man who has been divorced three times added, "I've broken up with women who
wouldn't perform certain things I've seen in adult films."

Paul's research also indicates that men who start with soft-core, "vanilla"
pornography usually move on to more violent and debasing images and videos.
Paul reports that 25 percent of pornographic magazines, 27 percent of
videos and 42 percent of Internet sites depict some form of violence
against women, "ranging from verbal aggression to torture and mutilation."

"Seeing women demeaned is somehow a turn-on," says a 21-year-old man who
insists that his tastes in pornography do not correspond to "how I am with
an actual woman."

Paul knows that her call for a fresh look at the dangers of something most
people take for granted won't be popular. Pornography, she writes, is "a
kind of male utopia that men are keen to protect." Nonetheless, Paul calls
for a "censure-not-censor" solution. "Americans need to be informed about
pornography's negative impact - about how its unabashed acceptance is not a
step forward for women, nor a harmless diversion for men, nor a step toward
a more open and liberalized society," she writes. Whether or not her call
is heeded, Paul's thought-provoking arguments may cause those who think the
right to view pornography is completely defensible to think again."


So since it says soft porn is bad would topless dancers be also in that catagory? One topless dancer which she says was christian said she does not think what she is doing is bad but she goes to church every week to repent so that she can make sure it is not bad since she is always firgiven which helps her go back to work. lol

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Again, what would you suggest as a solution, Warsong?
Last I heard, money and sex were pretty popular.
Realm Master

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yes, and done by INSANE FREAKING IDIOTS.

Porograpy IS WRONG

Sex (if your not married to the... sex...ist.. person...) IS WRONG

Lust IS WRONG

Fat guys in speedos ARE WRONG (wait... taht was irrelivant!)

Pizza without peperoni IS WRONG

Weath, well, its not wrong, but it can bring you down if your not careful

1 last one...

No green smilies in your post IS WRONG

(having just read the first post all the way through)

OH MY GOOD GOLLY GOSH!!!!!

THOSE STATISTICS ARE SCARY! AMERICA IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN OF... WHATEVER!

THAT IS NOT GOOD!!! NOT GOOD AT ALL!!


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PRAYER IS THE ANSWER

I know I don't really post on these subjects but this I can't help.

No offense, but I get tired of saying America is going down the drain, instead of praying for the country. Prayer does more than you think.

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I know it does alot, Lava, and i spoke too qucikly, but i had no idea there were even Porno MOVIES, much less that their a mulit-million dollar industry!! its just scary at first, thats all!

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realm, i am not trying to be arrogant or snobby, (if you know me, you know im slightly arrogant, but not an elitist).
perhaps you should consider keeping serious topics...serious. You know the whole "there is a time to be funny" spiel as well as the rest of us, i am sure.
As far as this porn thing goes, im wondering what the bigger market is. Illegal access by teenage guys (maybe girls), or legal access by grown men (maybe women, lol).

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unfortunatly, i have no clue when its time to stop being funny.

you havfta wonder though: why strip yourself for a camera? for the world? i mean, thats just... not right at all. its disgusting, and of course, like everything else sexual (and sinful) it pays well.


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well, the response to that will be the same from just about every1 here.
"its wrong. its disgusting. its sick. etc..."
but, if you take the opinion of a person on the other side of things, the debate gets interesting. then you get into excuses such as the fact that its "art" or a good "stress relief".
some (many) people just plain like it. period.
but , on this site, you will find a one sided conversation on this issue.

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Porn is horrible filthy.
I get lot of strong feelings against those people who do it and lead many children into Satan's hand where they are them self. But it's the Satan who we should blame, people are just deceived servants.

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At 2:17 all i can say is: Frech Art, aka, Porography. old joke. not funny. very sick.


im now going to go read a book untill the sun comes up and i get some mercy.

"lets go paint naked ladies"
"Wee wee! teehee!"
-Two twisted feinds in France.

btw, is it true the women in france don't wear tops to their bathing suits, or am i so tired i made taht up without knowing it (acutally, my friend told me it... a long time ago, and i'm still afraid of Paris...)


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Yeah this probably has to be one of the largest problems in the world today. It's a shame really, even in the animal kingdom the animals know where their boundaries are set...

But miracles happen, these people can still be saved. We must do our duty of praying for them, and being faithful witnesses.

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porn is not your friend.

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porno... ewww....

BIG eww...


you wonder what drives a person to sit naked in front of a camera anyway? i mean, HELLO???!?!?!

... oh yes, I GOT MY COMPUTER FIIIIIXXXXXEEEEEDDDD I CAN DO STUFF AGAIN! YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right.
The kingdom of hevan bleongs to them.-Matthew 5:10

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money.
low self worth.
sick fancies.

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don't forget cash.

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Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right.
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“Female Chauvinist Pigs” Pornification of feminism
www.nationalreview.com/lowry/lowry200509230812.asp
" “A baseline expectation that women will be constantly exploding in little blasts of exhibitionism runs throughout our culture"

"Women strive to look the part. Breast-augmentation procedures zoomed from 32,607 a year in 1992 to 264,041 last year. A gruesome-sounding surgical procedure to make women’s genitalia look like those of porn stars is increasingly popular."
"feminism won, so many unenlightened, bimbo-loving guys are so happy"

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Originally posted by warsong:
“Female Chauvinist Pigs” Pornification of feminism
www.nationalreview.com/lowry/lowry200509230812.asp
" “A baseline expectation that women will be constantly exploding in little blasts of exhibitionism runs throughout our culture"

"Women strive to look the part. Breast-augmentation procedures zoomed from 32,607 a year in 1992 to 264,041 last year. A gruesome-sounding surgical procedure to make women’s genitalia look like those of porn stars is increasingly popular."
"feminism won, so many unenlightened, bimbo-loving guys are so happy"


OH

WOW

THAT IS SCARY.

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Blessed are those who show mercy.
They will be shown mercy. - Matthew 5:7

Blessed are those who suffer for doing what is right.
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http://www.townhall.com/columnists/brentbozell/printbb20050923.shtml
"The Washington Post recently reported, and then mocked, plans at the FBI to put a few field agents on pornography prosecutions.... One unnamed FBI agent...derided the idea, saying, "I guess this means we've won the war on terror.""
"No one puts pornographers in a league with Osama bin Laden as a lethal threat to national security."

“"Smut" by Gil Reavill, a fellow who had been a writer for Screw magazine, but was shocked to learn his 12-year-old girl daughter was a devotee of rap music and was repeating lyrics about performing fellatio on Eminem”


This is more serious than people think. I would say more important than Osama. These are lies spread in society and a lie can and have caused more devastation than terrorists.

If people only focus on one problem we will ignore the other problems. It would be like putting a wall in front of us to not get wet form a flood but the water will come from the sides and be hind.

People treat each other like objects and objects like people. Animals act more civil than people at times. I guess people are proud to be lower than animals and will pay top dollar for it.

I hope this doesn’t bring a back lash to have the other side be extreme again and have another Catholic inquisition.

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Seriously, do you walk around with a THE END IS NEAR sign on your back?

"This is more serious than people think. I would say more important than Osama. These are lies spread in society and a lie can and have caused more devastation than terrorists."
Yep, the day a Playboy boards a plane and crashes it into an office building, I'll be worried.

I don't care either way about porn, but prostitution, drugs, gangs, etc. are a lot more dangerous to society.

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porn has done it's fair share. broken up families, and when the families break, so goes society.

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I think porn is a big problem. Its corrupting people every day, on both sides, the people who look at it, but also the people who are being used for it. I think that corruption is worse than death. Death on itself doesn't take salvation away, but perversion and corruption of the soul does.



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Vincent is on the mark.

here is another one"feminists end up in bed with Hugh Hefner" :eek
Read this one www.opinionjournal.com/la/?id=110007288

"Why did feminism sell its soul to the sexual-liberation movement in the first place? After all, the original feminists were fighting to be taken seriously. Hugh Hefner, by contrast, said that his ideal girl "resembles a bunny . . . vivacious, jumping--sexy." There seems to be a contradiction here."
************ also read this

http://www.jewishquarterly.org/article.asp?articleid=38
“Jews accounted for most of the leading male performers as well as a sizeable number of female stars in porn movies of the 1970s and ‘80s.”

“As the ADL Foxman said “'Those Jews who enter the pornography industry have done so as individuals pursuing the American dream" Most Jews think this is ok than Christians. And the weak and stupid female Christians that go get used like the sluts they are.”

“Jews became involved in the porn industry for much the same reasons that their co-religionists became involved in Hollywood. They were attracted to an industry primarily because it admitted them.”
“A great many of the publishers and peddlers of what was variously called flagitious, pornographic, or erotic literature were Jews, and most of those were German Jews” Jerusalem Post, March 9, 2000

“Orthodox Jew and porn gossipmonger Luke Ford explains on his website: ‘Porn is just one expression of [the] rebellion against standards, against the disciplined life of obedience to Torah that marks a Jew living Judaism.’”

“According to Ford, Jewish X-rated actors often brag about their ‘joy in being anarchic, sexual gadflies to the puritanical beast’. Jewish involvement in porn, by this argument, is the result of an atavistic hatred of Christian authority: they are trying to weaken the dominant culture in America by moral subversion.”

Rabbi Dresner said “‘Jewish rebellion has broken out on several levels’, one being ‘the prominent role of Jews as advocates to sexual experimentation’. Overall, then, porn performers are a group of people who praise rebellion, self-fulfilment and promiscuity." "I have not yet met a Jewish guy who wasn't horny as a rabbit,' says Jewish porn star Nina Hartley”

“Al Goldstein, the publisher of Screw, said ‘The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don’t believe in authoritarianism.’ Pornography thus becomes a way of defiling Christian culture and, as it penetrates to the very heart of the American mainstream” “Where else are you going to get a succession of shiksas [non-Jewish women] to bed” “The standard porn scenario became as a result a Jewish fantasy of schtupping the Catholic shiksa.”

“The Jewish Quarterly is one of the foremost Jewish literary and cultural journals available in the English language” “The JewishQuarterly is published by the Jewish Literary Trust Ltd”

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warsong... do you have something against the jews?

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I am stating facts. So you should not “discriminate” again the origins and the truth.
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I asked a question based upon why you specifically chose those citations.
this is not the first time you singled out the jews.

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quote:
Originally posted by vincent:
I think porn is a big problem. Its corrupting people every day, on both sides, the people who look at it, but also the people who are being used for it. I think that corruption is worse than death. Death on itself doesn't take salvation away, but perversion and corruption of the soul does.

Vince... Nothing can take your salvation away from you. NOTHING. Once you become a christian, you are going to heaven... no matter what. But even though you will still go to heaven, corruption is definantly NOT a good thing. God cries for you when stuff like that happens.

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Well (oh great, another controversy) if you belive that Jesus is the son of God and that God exsits and you live your life for God then you will go to heaven, but if you become a christan and then fall away from God's path, like you stop praying and beliving and and start a life of sin (well, we all have sin, but like Sex (unmarried) Drugs, Drinking... well... just sin without asking Jesus forgivness) then you DON'T go to heaven. You have to FOLLOW THROUGH. Even if you don't (or stop for a while) Jesus still reaches out to you, its YOUR desicion to follow God and Jesus Christ! Its what YOU decide to do, someone who asked Jesus into their heart and then goes off and kills a guy for no reason and starts sinning alot then he's NOT going to heaven. You have to... ug, im no pastor, but i think you get the point.

What do (those certain) Jews have against us anyway? How have WE hurt THEM?? and whats wrong living for God anyway? I mean, even if you don't belive in God, (good) Christains live (mostly) a live of Vertue! were not like going around killing ARE WE??

the world is messed up. Luckily, Heaven isn't .. well its not luck, its God!

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okay, porn is a huge problem, many friends of mine have just seen bits and pieces and get deeper and deeper into porn and its ....grossness... all we really can do is

1. pray, not just for the world in general, but for specific people. god already knows these things so it is not letting down a friend by telling god about it.

2. you should not persoanally look at it... there goes at least the christian population.

3. Talk to the people you know about the issues. make all these statistics known.

4. (kinda an add to 3) Tell your friends that nothing is acually secret. as you know, these sites save information about you, your internet history is saves even after you "delete" it. All these things can be found out by:
parents
spouse
family
friends
ect.
many people dont really care about that, but then again, many do.

5. protect yourself from slipping even a little bit, do not go to sites that may be sponsered by porn sites, spend as little time alone on the web if you do have problems.


also, the prophet of my church (gordon b. hinkley (mormon)) has lately been talking a lot about this issue and how it tears apart the most basic unit of humankind, the family. It tears apart relationships, and as was said before, it can make you expect more of your partner. He brought up one time that the porn industry makes more money that :fox news, cbs, and nbc combined.

so pretty much, watch out for porn, it is bad, it messes with everything that is good, and definately is sinful.

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Vince... Nothing can take your salvation away from you. NOTHING. Once you become a christian, you are going to heaven... no matter what.

Can you show me scripture to back this up? In the Bible all of God's promises are conditional, they all have an IF. In the bible the word believe means commit. So to believe in Christ means that you must commit your life to Him, not to only believe in His existence. Here is a scripture that I'd like you to read, I'd like for you to tell me what you think it means:

quote:
Hebrews 10:26  
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28  He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29  Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

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yes, heaven is very conditional, here are some of them:

faith

works (as specified in james 2 17-18 "even so faith, if it hath not works is dead, beind alone. 18. yea, a man may say, thou hast faith and i have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and i will shew you my faith by my works")

so pretty much to be a christian, you need to believe in the doctrine, bet being that faith without works is dead, then you must also do the works to be a true christian. and porn would definately not fall into the "works" culumn

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oh yeah, and i made a dif profile like once apon a time, so im using this one because the name super_rad is definately less confusing than superad. yay

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rock_on !

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