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Anyone a modder? – Valkyri

Valkyri

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Do any of you have an interest in modding Homeworld2?

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en972

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Sounds intresting? WHy? Can you give me some more info

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bennythebear

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it does sound interesting. what kind of help are you needing? or what kind of modding are you talking about?

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en972

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Are you just messing with us? To see if we like modding stuff?

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MastaLlama

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wooo! Conroe, TX! You're not far from me

Homeworld and Homeworld 2 are awesome games, I've never modded either but it would be interesting to see what could be done with 'em.

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en972

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Dallas is closer...

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Valkyri

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You all have seen my sig. That is what I want to do with HW2. I just cant figure out how. I've had it on my heart for two or three years, well ever since it came out. If yall have ever read The Veritas Conflict by Shaunti Feldhahn you'll see what I mean. I simply want people to ask themselves what is this existence? Why am I here? In the end I want them to turn to Christ for the answers. Or else at least know the truth even if they chose to not.

In Christ name
- Valkyri

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Valkyri

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And no en972 i'm not messing with yall. lol

Im actually quite serious.

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CobraA1

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Is Homeworld 2 the best game to mod for such a purpose? That sounds like RPG material. Homeworld 2 is an awesome game, no doubt, but it's a space based RTS. Modding it for such a purpose may prove to be difficult.

The concept sounds good, though, and shows a lot of promise. I myself have been considering creating something along similar lines using the Torque engine.

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bennythebear

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i've been wanting to do something like that with dugeon siege, or if it's moddible, dungeon siege 2(which i don't have yet). i've been thinking about trying to do something like that with dungeon siege, making it as Christian as possible. taking out the magic, toning down the blood, and trying to convert it into something usable for a youth group lan party . have the books be actual books from the bible and everything. i just can't figure out what i would do with the weapons, and what kind of story line i could use. i'm trying to talk my cousin into doing the graphics side of things. maybe if i actually got all the scripting done(as much as possible anyway), then i could fine someone willing to help. i might start tearing into that sometime soon. i figured the original ds would be cheaper at $10 a pop, compared to ds2 at around $49 a pop.

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Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

proverbs 25:7
open rebuke is better than secret love.

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Valkyri

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I'll be honest with yall. This is what has been on my heart for 3 years. I am just now coming forward with it. I have been unable to hook in to the internet for two of that. At least speaking about games. But in reality I have been working on figuring out how to mod HW2 for the last 6 months now. If you all will check out the Angels fall first Universe site at http://www.dendezyn.net/affv4/ and download the AFF Universe Compendium. Just glance through. Truthfully I am no expert on HW2. I'm just following what God puts in my heart. I do know that there's no way I can do it myself. It may not seem like the best game to do this with but who am I to speak against God? Who knows we might be able to do what AFFU is doing, which is using HW2 for space and Halo2 for the ground and combine them into one thing. Now I have no idea how'd one would do that. I'm just following my heart. By the end of tomorrow I will have finished compiling the 1700 lines of the Table of Contents listing for to compile into .Big format for the Point Defense System mod so I can use the guy's (I forget his name) original install I have to experiment with, and attempt to create a single player campaign. God willing I'll have the patience to keep going.
In Christ's name,
-Valkyri

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en972

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Just a thought. Instead of modding homeworld 2...how about you just make a game that suits you? It would be easier to make your own then mod it.

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Valkyri

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I don't know how nor do I have the resources. All I have is one year in Visual Basic programming. I've had to figure out lua on my own and am still doing so. I work with what I have. Thats why I came here.

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en972

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Ohhh..

If you know Visual Basic.net check out www.irrlicht-engine.com

Thats great!

If you want some advice on resources, e mail me at reaganmeister@gmail.com

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Valkyri

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thx, I'll check it out.

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Valkyri

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Got an update! I have finished the compilation!! Tis my first. Final Tally 1665 lines. All I gotta do now is debug. Then I give to the Arhive.exe and I got me a Big file! God willing it'll work. I've got the Irrilic engine finally downloaded(slow dial-up) and I'm checking it out. Thank you lord!
In Christ name,
- Valkyri

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en972

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I'm happy for you man!

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MastaLlama

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quote:
Dallas is closer...

...closer to what? not me! hee hee

Congratz on the compilation man, let us know how things turn out!!

MastaLlama

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Valkyri

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Don't you just love when DOS tells that root path "Ll" does not exist? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Must persevere against the lying program, no wait, the truthful but stupid program. Meaning Ll does not exist but the root path points to C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\ or at least I have told it to point to that. ???????????? Hang on while I get the output from Archive.exe. God willing it will work.
-In Christ's name,
Valkyri

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Valkyri

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I have rerun through the program about 20 times now and i just can't seem to figure out why it's doing what it is. So here is the output:


C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>C:\Archive.exe -c C:\PDS50.txt -r C:\Pro
gram Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50 -a C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld2\Data\P
DS50.big -v
Root Path: '®^', does not exist.

Archive.exe Usage:
Archive.exe -t |-c <buildfile> -r <rootpath>|-l -a <archivefile> [-v]

Required Arguments
-a <archivefile> - Specify the name of the archive to operate on.

Optional Arguments, at least one required
-c <buildfile> - Create an archive <archivefile> using the <buildfile
> input file.
-r <rootpath> - Use the <rootpath> as the source folder to locate fi
les listed in the <buildfile>. (required when -c used)
-l - List the contents of the archive <archivefile>.
-t - Test the archive File, Check the CRC of each file.
-e <extract location> - Extract the archive contents to the folder <extract
location>.

-hash - List the hash on the archive.

-v - Verbose output log all warnings/errors.

e.g.:
archive -c filestoadd.txt -a newarchive.sga


The Build file is this:

Archive name= "PDS50"
TOCStart name="PDS50" alias="Data" relativeroot="C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\"
FileSettingsStart
defcompression="1"
// Anything less than 100 bytes, just store, don't compress
Override wildcard="*.*" minsize="-1" maxsize="100" ct="0"
//Lua files we always compress, and then decompress in one shot
Override wildcard="*.lua*" minsize="-1" maxsize
FileSettingsEnd

C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\ai\classdef.lua
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\ai\classdefbak.lua
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\ai\cpubuild.lua
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\ai\cpuresearch.lua
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\ai\hiigaran_upgrades.lua
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\ai\vaygr_upgrades.lua
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\art\fx\defensefield_generic.lua
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\badges\(hiigaran navy)1.tga
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\badges\(hiigaran navy)12flt.tga
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\badges\(hiigaran navy)12fltlt.tga
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\badges\(hiigaran navy)225lcd.tga
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\badges\(hiigaran navy)225lcdlt.tga
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\badges\(hiigaran navy)28tsog.tga
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\badges\(hiigaran navy)28tsoglt.tga
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\badges\(hiigaran navy)32tsog.tga
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\badges\(hiigaran navy)32tsogblack.tga

-------............1600 lines here in between..................-------

C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\weapon\vgr_smallmissileburst\vgr_smallmissileburst.wepn
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\weapon\vgr_smallmissileburst2\vgr_smallmissileburst2.wepn
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\weapon\vgr_starscattermissilelauncher\vgr_starscattermissilelauncher.wepn
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\weapon\vgr_unguidedrocketpod\vgr_unguidedrocketpod.wepn
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\weapon\vgr_vdd_auxfusionmissilelauncher\vgr_vdd_auxfusionmissilelauncher.wepn
C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50\weapon\vgr_vulcankineticturretlongrange\vgr_vulcankineticturretlongrange.wepn

TOCEnd

The root path refers to C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50 but it's saying that Ll does not exist which is true but why is it doing that? I have the root pointing to C:\Program Files\Sierra\Homeworld 2\PDS50 I mean it makes no sense. Do yall have any sugestions by chance?


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bennythebear

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i haven't ever played homeworld 2(or 1) before. i'm d/l the demo to homeworld 2 right now to check it out. do you know where i can find some info on modding it?

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proverbs 17:28
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

proverbs 25:7
open rebuke is better than secret love.

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www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs

Valkyri

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Go to Relic Forums, http://forums.relicnews.com/showthread.php?p=1072909#post1072909 and start from here and look around there are like a million threads but these are the modders also go to http://www.dendezyn.net/affv4/ and check that out. ABOVE ALL go to http://hw2.tproc.org/wiki/KarosGraveyard this is where you will find out the most about modding, it's where I started out at. The one thing that I have downloaded that won't work but i need is the HOD viewer. It's absolutely vital in order to do any sort of graphics work( for the most part) just read up on what see. You must also go to http://www.relic.com/download/homeworld2/tool.php in order to download the requiered tools for modding. For the tools to have full functionality you will need MAYA 3.0 or higher. I wish I had a real version of Maya instead of the PLE which barely works with it. I had to coerce it. I simply did not have the money for it. I'll get you the address if you like but youll need a good connection, its a 144mb dl. Just let me know if you need anything else, P.S. Make sure you check out the mods download section in Relic Entertainment, the Star Wars Clone Wars from http://swrebellion.com/ is awesome. P.S.S. One last thing you must have a full version of HW2 for any mods or modding programs to work, the demo will not work with them. I hope I didn't inundate you too much. let me know if you need anything else. I start college on Monday woo hoo!!! God bless!!!!!


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Valkyri

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Do yall by chance know what the Ll stands for? I still have not been able to figure it out. Any sugestions would be helpful.
God bless.

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Valkyri

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Sorry i didn't notice this before. The ..^ is what this browser or forum translates the Ll into. The Ll is what Dos gives me on the root path. I hope I did not confuse yall. I'm working on figuring out that Irrlicht engine but it's going to take me some time. Say do any of yall go on to Outerworlds by chance?

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CoolJ

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If your looking for one, here's an intro I thought up for an HW2 mod.


Intro

Sometime in the not so distant future, man's dream of colonizing space had
become a reality. Settlements on other planets in our solar system began to emerge, a spaceport on the Moon, then a scientific outpost on Mars. Space travel, at first taboo and only for scientific and military purpose, becamecommonplace and commercialized. Spaceships replaced airplanes as the most common form of flight travel.

Soon spaceports would emerge on locations further out, on moons of Jupiter, Saturn and Neptune. This was a major accomplishment for mankind. As space travel between the planets became frequent, entire civilizations sprang from these outposts.

Unfortunately, man's greed for power and wealth and hatred toward each
other's kind never waned. This new frontier seemed to magnify these human
evils, as if the darkness of space could mask the darkness of the atrocities committed there. Incidences became skirmishes, skirmishes became conflicts, conflicts became operations, and operations became wars.

So no longer were wars waged just among nations on Earth. Space had become the backdrop for the most devestating battles ever known.

And if our history was just a record of these wars, there would be little surprise. But there was something else. Something even darker than the evil in the hearts of men. Beyond the grasp of man's imagination, something horrible had been disturbed in the deepest parts of space. Something that would challenge what is means to be human and change man's destiny forever.

Valkyri

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Wow
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That's good

Yall give me a day and I should be able to post my thoughts on the game\mod i'd being led to make. What the foundation of it all is that is.
God bless,
Valkyrie

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Valkyri

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Still thinking on how to put it without rambling on and on.

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Valkyri

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Ok, I am now going to try:

In HW2 the story goes that Karen S'jet led her people to find their destiny against overwhelming odds and the same thing happened in the original Homeworld game the difference was was that she led them to their ancestral world from which they had been exiled from. Now she was merely human ( EVEN after being linked to the mothership to become fleet command). How does one come to depend on God. We all know that we are children of God if we have accepted Christ into our hearts. So therefore as children we must depend on him. The question I want people to ask themselves is Why am I here? What is my existence. In otherwords i want to show them the truth. But most people don't even bother to think about the word, "Why." (Emphazied) Everyone just seems so career driven, only caring about their next raise or promotion. Just trying to provide for everything and just going on about life like there's nothing to. I mean is it just: Your born, you be a kid, go to school, get a job, get a girl, get married, have kids, raise them, send them to college, become grandparents, and then just die. I mean that that's not good and all ( having kids and watching them grow up) but is that all there is to life? What happens after you die? Or do we just follow the old saying and just Eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die. ? These are just my observations, nothing more. But I guess God has just put into me to ask Why, why, why.? I hope I haven't rambled on too much, and I hope that that makes sense. Anyway just think on it and pray cause that's what I'll be doing.
In Christ's name,
Valkyri

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Valkyri

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Any replies?

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bennythebear

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sorry i haven't replied yet. if you can make a mod that causes people to begin to think about things like that, than that would be great. if you're really lead to do this, than do it with the best of your ability and God will bless your efforts and it will be fruitful to His glory. if people really begin to think, and to question ask the question "why?", hopefully they will keep seeking until they find the truth.

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proverbs 17:28
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

proverbs 25:7
open rebuke is better than secret love.

www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia

www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs

Valkyri

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Download and install Outerworlds and then come by Virtual to my carrier to see it by teleporting to 2N 37E. When you get there face East.

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QuestLeader

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quote:
Originally posted by Valkyri:
Download and install Outerworlds and then come by Virtual to my carrier to see it by teleporting to 2N 37E. When you get there face East.


otherworlds? come by virtual? your carrier? teleporting to 2N 37E? face east? WHAT??????

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Valkyri

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go here: http://outerworlds.com/html/downloads.html and click the click here link in the paragraph: Click here to download and install the Outerworlds Browser using the NEW install from the web package! Only the needed files will be downloaded and installed on your computer. When the File Download Box appears, simply click OPEN and Outerworlds will automatically install for you. Itís that simple!

Thus follow what this says and come on in to outerworlds as a Tourist. Please PM me your name so I know who you are. I go by Valkyri in there too. Go to the coordinates to see it.
-In christ's name,
Valkyri

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Valkyri

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Seriously, do yall have any interest in seeing my carrier or not? I'm not mad I just wanna know if yall are truly interested if not or you are let me know.
In Christ,
Valkyri

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Valkyri

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I guess I shall take that as a no.

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ArchAngel

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I heard that civ4 (which I am told from a relaible source is the best of all the Civs; I have yet to play it) is designed for modding.
coded in Python also. so... just throwing that up.

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I've got to hand in a mod i made as a part of a group for Battlefield 1942, this week. It was done as a part of coursework for my Game Dev Degree. Unfortunately it's very Gothic themed (picked out of a hat, had no choice).

Will post some screenies here if your interested.

--D-SIPL

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bennythebear

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i'm interested in seeing some screen shots.

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proverbs 17:28
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

proverbs 25:7
open rebuke is better than secret love.

www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia

www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs

bennythebear

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oh, and how's college going valkyri?

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proverbs 17:28
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

proverbs 25:7
open rebuke is better than secret love.

www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia

www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs

Valkyri

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smiles only one more month to go!!!!!!!!! yahooooooooo!!! Anyway if you will tell me how to post some here i'll do so. I took AFFU's new mod and basically combined with the PDS mod! hehe It's awesome that is if your computer can handle it. Basically I went in to the five or six lua files and told them to let me be allowed to build and use those awesome ships in the pds, since AFFU did not think to allow you to build them. As far as I can tell I'm probably the only one thats done this. It definately was worth the time it took. I'll upload some to my sad web site. From there yall can tell me how stick it in here. Arch how do I go about getting Civ4, is it downloadable for free by chance? D-SIPL show them pics, I'm curious myself!
In Christ,
Valkyri

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A Game to combine all Games A Game that grows upon itself But A Game that ultimately in the end makes and forces one to ask themselves "Why?"