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My Christian Game idea... – Realm Master

Realm Master

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bleah..

i just noticed my games (While very good ideas) arn't necesarily Christian, and violent. Well I verymuch like the FPS style, and i like the guns, but its hard to combine a christian game with those sorts of stuff.

Then: insparation.

...Story Idea: You are a marine for the US in the year 2300, and you have just witnessed a monster tear apart and devour a seargeant. You have no idea what it is, but you try and warn your superiors, they dont listen. [EDIT]Oh yeah, your superiors get mauled too and from then on its you and about 20 of your marines in a quarentied area against the monsters[EDIT] Then it becomes a desperate struggle to kill these demonic monsters. For the first like, 4-5 levels your weapons are nearly ineffective, but when the player (the marine) turns Christian, his weapons suddenly become way more effective. The monsters are actually deamons that have crossed between the spiritual world to battle not agels, but humans themselves.

...err...its a WIP idea...

crits plz.


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bwoogie

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Thats a pretty neat "story". i was thinking of making a game somewhat simular to that which started the thread i started about peoples opinions on violent videogames. sounds really interesting though.

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Realm Master

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lol, thanks. It was just a WIP idea, but its rapidly turning into something wiht major potential...

now only if i was good enough to actually MAKE it...

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fingolfin

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well, I would love to see a game with allegorical properties. Like the book, "The Oath"
THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!
(BTW I NEED TO GO BUY Eternal Wars....)

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Realm Master

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YEAH! "The Oath" was awesome! Great book, ...some bad images/themes tho (IM 13!)

I wanted to re-create that kind of theme, only more baddies, more good guys, bloodier (Your marines, depending on how good u are can survive (verdy hard), become christians (Makes them heck more efficient),...or get ripped to bloody shreads and get divoured (...the most common effect) and with a lot of cool weapons.

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HanClinto

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As Christians, how much are we told we should "duke it out" with demons toe-to-toe?

Where in the Bible are we granted authority and responsibility to "slay demons"?

The Bible tells us that we have the power to resist Satan when we are temped (resist the devil, and he will flee), and that the demons can be rebuked and ordered to leave.

Okay, even as I'm typing this I'm thinking of how the disciples would go around, casting out demons. I suppose that's a similar storyline to this, but they didn't exactly do it with guns and ammo and explosions -- they did it with Christ's authority.

I'm open to criticism on my thoughts as well -- I'm really not sure how to resolve how much scriptural truth is in the concept of "fighting demons". I'm interested in finding a fun Christian alternative to the awful video games as much as anyone is on here.

I know the theme of "demon slaying" is a common concept in Christian/secular circles, I'm just not sure of the scriptural basis for it.

Thoughts?

Respectfully,
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CPUFreak91

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I think the best game to be done would be a 1s person shooter. A friend gets the hero out of a tight spot, in time the friend tells him about christ and the hero is saved. Now the hero feels bad about all the bad things he's done and people he's killed. He's on a wanted list and runs for his life with assasins trailing him. He meets his friend again who went of vacation and tells him what's going on. Later in the game the man realizes that "With God I can Do All things", so he turns himself in. He is then executed. The game should show that: even if your a christian, bad things can happen to you, but you have peace, because God is there with you.

I know it's a lame plot, but I anyone wants, I can write a story line.

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Realm Master

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@HanClinto: Drn, your right, arg, why don't i think of these things BEFORE i post them? . Yeah, your right, we arn't really told to "Duke it out" with deamons. Well, christians and assult rifles don't mix very well either. (Just so you know, that was a joke)

I suppose i could try and make a storyline like THis PResent Darkness where you get to play as an angel...or maby not...

@CUPFreak91: HMm, not a bad storyline, and the play wouldn't be bad either. FPSs are really fun, its just finding the right story allowing yourself to USE guns. Its not like you want one of those games where you run around killing innocent people, those games suck.


IT appears i still have a way to go.

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HanClinto

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quote:
Originally posted by Realm Master:
why don't i think of these things BEFORE i post them? .


Heh, that's what accountability's all about, right?

It sounds like you've got a lot of fire and passion for creating good storylines for Christian video games -- I would hate to extinguish any of that fire. Please keep us informed when you get new ideas -- I think I can speak for most people here when I say that new game ideas are always interesting to read, and by batting these ideas around, we all learn how to hone and sharpen our individual storylines.

Keep it up!

I read The Oath and This Present Darkness last year in an effort to try and find a good storyline on which a Christian game could be built. I had hoped that the spiritual world which Peretti described would be one which a game could be structured involving the conflict between angels and demons.

However, after reading his books, I found them enjoyable, but I'm not sure how accurate the theology is (for example, in This Present Darkness, angels are empowered through the local praying of the saints -- I'm not sure of his scriptural basis for that, and while it's a fun concept, I'm not sure I'm comfortable teaching principles like that through a game that I create).

I've thought about contacting a renowned Christian author such as Peretti or others (I have a list of ones I was considering somewhere), and seeing if one of them would contract to write the storyline for a Christian interactive video game, much the way Tom Clancy signed off on the Rainbow Six games.

In Christ,
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bwoogie

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well, i've never read those books... and i dont think that the angels get their power from us praying.. however we can command the angels for instance for protection and things like that...

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Realm Master

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Never thought much about that point.

I just REALLY liked the swords.

I admit, I'm a blade freak

(My last name is Knight, waddya expect?)

and the idea of fighting deamons and aiding people in their walk with Christ is pretty cool for me, and so are the swords!

ALSO: In the first idea your not fighting against the deamons for like a quest, its more like fighting for your life, a fight for survival.

er...just thought i'd point that out.

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fingolfin

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but see, "the oath" had a monster that was much more than just a real monster. That's what you would have to write a story about. An allegory. I am playing FFX, and that is THE WRONG KIND OF ALLEGORY, if it was meant to be an allegory. And that is where Christian games come in. Make a game that has right, good allegorical properties.

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Max

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Any one here played Eternal Darkness Sanity's Requiem? That is an awesome game, and it is basically you duking it out with demons and evil creatures and sacrificing yourself for the greater good. It has you combating and balancing "gods", so it is kinda bad in that sense, but no God prevails, they all pretty much get destroyed. You guys should maybe just rent it or check it out, go to a site and read up on it, it was pretty cool, especially the sanity effects.

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One of the dangers of the FPS genre is that there is the tendency to reproduce the same thing over and over again. I understand your enjoyment of such experiences (been there), and there's nothing inherently wrong with finding enjoyment in such things, provided they do not overtake the higher priorities in life.
Not to rain on your parade, but your idea needs more work in order not to be another Doom clone. So many of the FPS games are just that clones with different titles. If you want to pursue the FPS route, strive to be as original as possible. It is hard to do, but it can be done; don't give up.
Realm Master

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thnx for the feed back.

Doom? Whats that?

[EDIT] Oh, nvm, i remembered! [EDIT]

yeah, its still a WIP idea.

Excuse me for asking, but how would you make it more orginal?

In story plot, gameplay or characters?

Or all three?

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Realm Master

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Okay okay, i have a new idea.

It isn't Christian, but it isn't violent:

3d DogeBall!

Already gots a model that can: Run, Throw, Throw Down, Be hint in Stomach, Duck-and-cover-head, Get up (after being hit in stomach), be hit in face (ouch!)

...am i getting warmer?

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HanClinto

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Well I like swords too. I've drooled over StarFire swords online and at Renaissance Fairs, I even made my own two-handed sword in early high-school. Leather-wrapped handle, huge pommel, about 4 feet long, steel.

Yeah, I'm a sword fan too, and I would like to see a sweet allegorical game that had good fighting.

I mean, I fight every day in my struggle against sin, and days that are "lighter" or "easier" are only by the grace of God. I'm still very vulnerable to temptation, and it's a daily fight.

One thing I like is the idea of a game where fighting is not the objective, it's something that has to be done to accomplish the goal.

It's a fine point, but let me try and make it clearer.

An example where killing is the goal would be a game where you're trying to clear a map of enemies, or where there's a "boss" character that you have to take out in order to proceed.

A game where killing is not the goal would be something like you're trying to get from point A to point B. The challenge is the obstacles in our way. Just as I try to get through my day, I'm being assailed by temptation, often when I least expect it, and in a way that catches me off guard.

Our fight is kindof with demons, but I don't think we're actually given power to "kill" or "vanquish" demons. The Bible sometimes gives us examples of excorcism (and Frank Peretti goes off on that), but the fight that I see most in my own life is defending against the "firey darts", and the temptation of sin that comes my way.

And it's not like by fighting away sin, that any area can become a "safe zone" where there aren't baddies anymore. I have to keep moving, and the longer I stay in a place where I'm succeptible to temptation, the stronger the temptations grow and they just keep coming.

That's the kind of fight I see in my own life, the fight with my own sin nature, and my succeptibleness to the temptations that come my way.

I think a lot of fun could be had with a multiplayer "dodgeball" or "ultimate frisbee" sort of game, but I would personally like to see a Christian game that in an allegorical way teaches people strategy for use in their fight against sin.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is similar to what the next Eternal War is doing -- I think that same theme could be done in a variety of different genres, and in several different levels of "darkness", in order to cater to different audience groups. Not everyone is going to enjoy playing EW, simply because of its dark nature. EW is for a specific audience, and I think that's great. But don't think that just because they're doing a storyline like this that other people can't do it also.

So dodgeball is good, but something like that is kindof religion-agnostic. I mean, unless you're going to have the players say something like "Praise Jesus, I got slammed!", but I don't think that really would work.

In Christ,
clint

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Realm Master

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I would love to see all that too, only...

Your gonna hafta give me a few years...

Im still a programmin noob, and i just wanna get a head start on c++...

(oh, um, did i mention im 13? )

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HanClinto

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Hey, I started with C when I was in elementary (my dad taught me some), but I really got into game programming when I was only a little older than you, and made my first DirectX game. I totally think you can make a really fun game, you're at a great age to start learning this stuff and having fun with it.

If discouragement is something easy for you, don't start too huge. Start small, and keep projects manageable.

Wanting to program a specific game is a great way to learn how to do something. I started out wanted to write a MPOG, so I had to teach myself sockets and networking. It's helped me in at least 2 of my jobs, knowing how to code for networks, and that was all stuff I learned before I was 16.

Anyway, I look forward to seeing where you go!

In Christ,
clint

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CPUFreak91

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Oh you lucky bum, Han! I wish I had someone to teach me coding, (i'm 13 too)
personally! Books and mailing lists and USENET don't answer all my questions like someone you know.

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Realm Master

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yeah... im gonna take a C++ class on a college campus next year!

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