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Happy Orthdox Easter + HOLY FIRE – warsong




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Well today is the original date of Easter (old calendar). But other Christian sects are very liberal to change things. Some may ask why not celibrate the other day, but everyone else should celibrate it now.

But does God agree?
"Holy Fire is the most renowned miracle in the world of Eastern Orthodoxy. It takes place at the same time, in the same manner, in the same place every single year for centuries. No other miracle is known to occur so regularly and so steadily over time. It happens in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem, the holiest place on earth[2], where Christ was crucified, entombed, and where He had finally risen." The BBC said this about it http://www.holyfire.org/eng/svid_p_DanielE2003.htm

"One can ask the question why the miracle of the Holy Fire is hardly known...Protestant areas it may to a certain extent be explained by the fact that there is no real tradition.."
http://www.holyfire.org/eng/ (what I found on google)
http://www.holyfire.org/eng/karta.htm

The Catholic Church tried to do it and could not, so they tried to disprove it with tape and it backfired on them so they do not talk about the tape. Lol the Muslims police and other religions search the priest before getting the fire to see if he does not have anything on him that would indicate that he uses matches or of the sort. And the fire came even before matches were around.

You hear about Passover more even though there 1.3% Jewish people, even though there more Christian Orthodox people. Even in the world wars more Christian Orthodox people died but they do not get mentioned and the stats undercount how many.

CobraA1

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So - where can I find the tape ?

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6 "This is what the LORD says --
Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last;
apart from me there is no God.

7 Who then is like me? Let him proclaim it.
Let him declare and lay out before me
what has happened since I established my ancient people,
and what is yet to comeó
yes, let him foretell what will come.

8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid.
Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago?
You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me?
No, there is no other Rock; I know not one." -- Isaiah 44:6-8, NIV

CoolJ

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There's some video clips on the website
http://www.holyfire.org/eng/index.html

I don't know if the miracle is real or not. But supposedly the (maybe this is a secondary miracle) the fire that is passed around will not burn you. The people prove this by running thir fingers over and through the flame. I'm a little skeptical of at least this part of the miracle, because if you look at all the video of no one seems to have their fingers over the flame very long (kinda like the walking on fire hot coals trick)

Look at this lady:
http://www.holyfire.org/image/2003u1DivX_Mpeg4_FM.avi
She decided to wave the flame in her face, to me she definitely seems to feel it!

But I truely believe God does miracles and I'm NOT saying this is not a miracle. I just wouldn't want to be one who knowingly and purposefully decieves people in the name of God (usually for money or self power)

CobraA1

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Interesting.

The video clips I watched generally tended to be in two categories:

-Flashes, but to be honest, in a video clip a flash can be anything .

-People playing with a holy fire. Of course, I do not know the properties of the sticks they are holding, so it is difficult to say whether the flames are simply burning at a low temperature, or whether this is truly a miracle. The flame is actually one of the cooler parts of most fires . . .

Unfortunately, it is pretty difficult to tell for sure without going there myself.

This is something I should go and see for myself - should I ever get the money and time.

There is one question, though: The miracles are cool, but is the presence of God felt there? God is, of course, the most important factor in miracles.

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6 "This is what the LORD says --
Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last;
apart from me there is no God.

7 Who then is like me? Let him proclaim it.
Let him declare and lay out before me
what has happened since I established my ancient people,
and what is yet to comeó
yes, let him foretell what will come.

8 Do not tremble, do not be afraid.
Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago?
You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me?
No, there is no other Rock; I know not one." -- Isaiah 44:6-8, NIV




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The flashes that you see do not come from cameras, since you can not bring cameras with flashes in the place.

The fire started well before matches were around, and well before most Christian sects came about. Also read the part about the column.

As for the tape that that Catholic Church has is of inside Christ's tomb.

I agree that it would be cool to see this first hand.