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D-SIPL

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Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
I've been registered on this site for nearly 4 years and can't believe how much it has changed. It doesn't have the same buzz as it used to. The discussions are so uninteresting and completely unrelated with coding.

Those that have been here ages remember people like MeanManInOz, JesusFreak, Revelator, Veritech, RowanSeymour, MadProf and many others. Those were the days.

Anybody feel the same? Think this place has changed a lot? Is it better or worse then it used to be?

--D-SIPL

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ArchAngel

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From: SV, CA, USA
Registered: 01-29-2002
whoa! I remember Oz! haha. wow. Back. In. The. Day! lol.

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goop2

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I know I havent been here long but I can say the place has started to kinda slow down since I came... Ive been offline for weeks and Im still up to date on things.

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I dont like siggys. They are to hard to think up :(

mellonamin

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Posts: 119
From: Maryville, TN, United States
Registered: 11-16-2004
I think we just need a kick start of some sort...I know I haven't been here long, but I agree with you all

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HeardTheWord

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Posts: 224
From: Des Moines, IA
Registered: 08-16-2004
I agree with you completely. I haven't been here all that long but I really came here to become part of a christian coding community. Maybe part of that is a lack of my own contributing... Any ideas on how to revamp the site?
Briant

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Posts: 742
From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada
Registered: 01-20-2001
The site has always been sort of slow. It needs more people, and it needs people to participate more on the forums as well as add things to the articles, code database and showcase (all from the main page).

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Brian

Lava
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I would like to participate on these boards, and I would like to add to the showcase, but I don't have any webspace, for people to download from.
D-SIPL

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Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
I know it's always been slow here, but it's even more rare to find any chat about code at all. It's all articles like "hey i found this site, it's raises some interesting points". Yawn... who cares, since when was this site about debating theology. Go and start a different site.

I just think in the old days the topics were more to the point and had some fun as well. Cheify's threads were legendary... class.

Its just debates now and it's really boring...

--D-SIPL

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CheeseStorm
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I'd recommend a holy war with a Satanist forum, like here's some professional courtesy, I respect like, how well you guys defend your ideals, personally Christian Vs. Satanist would probably be a landslide, cause the most they could do is like post some cheap Gothic poetry, well I'm just assuming they're lacking in the brains department, but your God made their Devil, they are basically owned by your God, but yeah, stupid Satanists spice up any scenario.

Maybe there could be like riddles for prizes of some sort, riddles are fun, like a weekly riddle, woop.

Or this little virtual village, where like, your number of posts or contributions allows you to get a better house/equipment, there wouldn't be too many people online at a time, so it'd be cool, so instead of just clicking on stuff (well you could choose between normal/rpg site menu) you could like walk up to different little buildings, oh oh then the village could change based on the season, well you know how like Google's home page changes when it's Christmas and whatnot.

And there could be little sub-missions or something, like 'your character will look cooler if you submit a mini-game' or something, well maybe not a seperate house for everyone, cause that'd be like baaaaaaaaaaaah big city that'd take like 10 minutes to walk through, unless each block had a little teleport deal.

It's a lot of work noodootaboot it, but would that not be the coolest damn thing ever? Hehe and there'd be sand on the ground, so you could see where the most popular areas were and stuff (footprints). And lil pets that you could earn for completing those sub-missions I was talking about, they'd just follow you around I guess.

mellonamin

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Posts: 119
From: Maryville, TN, United States
Registered: 11-16-2004
wow...you thought that out a lot....nice ideas...you could also have wars between villages and stuff and your own government hierarchy and economy...

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Vita sine Ieso est mors.
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Sciuri non sunt boni edere.
=Squirrels are not good to eat.

mellonamin

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Posts: 119
From: Maryville, TN, United States
Registered: 11-16-2004
I think we should have a "mafia" forum game...they play it on Gamedev.net, but I still haven't been able to get in on it...would anyone be interested?

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Vita sine Ieso est mors.
=Life without Jesus is death.

Sciuri non sunt boni edere.
=Squirrels are not good to eat.

Brandon

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From: Kansas City, Mo, USA
Registered: 02-02-2004
Yeah I think that the debating is kinda boring myself, and I've never heard of anyone being saved because of a debate. But still, God can work through anything.

Hey I actually like the virtual village idea, that would be pretty cool.

It seems that the main thing missing is talk about coding! And games development techniques. I'm sure there are people here who use Rendering Engines like, Ogre or Irrlicht, or game engines like Torque or 3D GameStudio. And 3D languages, such as BlitzMax, Blitz3D, or *cough* DarkBasicPro. Or even those with time on hand who like desiging their own game engines from scratch. With C++ and DX\OpenGL Perhaps we could make use of the codebase more often with these languages? Maybe there could be community projects?


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D-SIPL

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Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
quote:
Originally posted by brandon:
Yeah I think that the debating is kinda boring myself, and I've never heard of anyone being saved because of a debate. But still, God can work through anything.

Hey I actually like the virtual village idea, that would be pretty cool.

It seems that the main thing missing is talk about coding! And games development techniques. I'm sure there are people here who use Rendering Engines like, Ogre or Irrlicht, or game engines like Torque or 3D GameStudio. And 3D languages, such as BlitzMax, Blitz3D, or *cough* DarkBasicPro. Or even those with time on hand who like desiging their own game engines from scratch. With C++ and DX\OpenGL Perhaps we could make use of the codebase more often with these languages? Maybe there could be community projects?


A community project would be good, just not sure whether we have the expertise here anymore.

--D-SIPL

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ArchAngel

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Posts: 3450
From: SV, CA, USA
Registered: 01-29-2002
you know.. everybody to my forum. jk. well if you want to... haha...
now that forum is dead.. now.


quote:
but your God made their Devil, they are basically owned by your God,

haha. that made me laugh. especially when I read it the first time, interpretting owned as in "Your were OWNED!"
heh heh.
but yes, it's always fun to debate with a satanist. they sure spice things up. athiests are less fun cuz they're not as stupid. and it's pretty much just a intellectual (or pseudo-intellectual debate.) but with satanists.. FLAME WAR!

basically.. your saying.. make an RP section of Christian coders.
(looks at post count) I'd pwn you all! except mack.

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HanClinto

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From: Indiana
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I came here originally for that -- hoping to see more community development, more programming, but it's mainly just been a Christian forum for techies. Not having a common place to be able to share work really seems to hurt that (the offsite requirement for the gallery).

Perhaps I'll post more of my personal work here -- I've mainly been learning C# development lately, maybe I'll post a small SDL game I made with that.

--clint

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HeardTheWord

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Posts: 224
From: Des Moines, IA
Registered: 08-16-2004
I have a few articles I have been writing. The articles will be geared towards people who would like to get started in C++. Hopefully I get the first done this week (its harder for me to explain in simple terms now). I already have a plan of what each article will talk about. I would appreciate someone else that could read/write an article to help out. Is anyone else interested in helping me?

My e-mail address: JFPeople@hotmail.com

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Briant

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Posts: 742
From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada
Registered: 01-20-2001
quote:
Originally posted by HeardTheWord:
I would appreciate someone else that could read/write an article to help out. Is anyone else interested in helping me?

I am. My email is in my profile. Let me know.

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Brian

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From: Melbourne, FL USA
Registered: 11-09-2002
quote:
Originally posted by D-SIPL:
A community project would be good, just not sure whether we have the expertise here anymore.

--D-SIPL


Not to mention that most of the "expertise" is busy with their own projects.

HeardTheWord

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Posts: 224
From: Des Moines, IA
Registered: 08-16-2004
quote:
Originally posted by BrianT:
I am. My email is in my profile. Let me know.

Sent you an e-mail. Thanks for the interest!

D-SIPL

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Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
quote:
Originally posted by Gump:
Not to mention that most of the "expertise" is busy with their own projects.

True.

--D-SIPL

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CapnStank

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From: Sask, Canada
Registered: 12-16-2004
Hmmm not sure how welcome I really am here but here's my 2 cents.

I know how to code, I'll be slowly learning C++, java, visual basic (hopefully) through the next 4 months so I know my stuff. Cheese found his way here through a google search and managed to bring me and others into the loop (Who remembers zimmer_kole?). I'd probably be a more positive contribution to a site that seems to run well (No conflict between its top users). But most of my stuff isn't well fitted into "Christian" and not like I really wanna label my work with that since I don't follow the faith.

Gotta say though, that Cheese managed to start a topic that has gotten more attention than most boards all together. Gotta respect that don't ya?

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D-SIPL

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Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
quote:
Originally posted by CapnStank:
Hmmm not sure how welcome I really am here but here's my 2 cents.

I know how to code, I'll be slowly learning C++, java, visual basic (hopefully) through the next 4 months so I know my stuff. Cheese found his way here through a google search and managed to bring me and others into the loop (Who remembers zimmer_kole?). I'd probably be a more positive contribution to a site that seems to run well (No conflict between its top users). But most of my stuff isn't well fitted into "Christian" and not like I really wanna label my work with that since I don't follow the faith.

Gotta say though, that Cheese managed to start a topic that has gotten more attention than most boards all together. Gotta respect that don't ya?


Your learning 3 languages in the next 4 months, phew good luck. Thats gonna be hard (not impossible). I remember when I was learning Java for the first time (4 years ago now) i found that enough for me. I'm 20 now with Java and Python under my belt, I know enough C++ to write some basic apps (map editor being the most useful) but not that great.

That was a pretty long thread. Not the longest but pretty long.

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bennythebear

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From: kentucky,usa
Registered: 12-13-2003
anyone should be welcome here capnstank. i agree a lot of the debates are boring, and often vain, and sometimes just wrong(and yes, i've been part in all the above). even though i'm not really a coder, i still like reading all the concepts behind programming, so more articles and that sort of thing would be cool. i'm wanting to get (deeper)into web scripting first(it's what got me interested in programming), then i might work my way up into the "expertise" department .oh, and i like the techie Christian hangout thing it has going on, i would hate to see the site lose that aspect. i think it just needs more programming meat, it should be the core of this site(i think...hence ChristianCODERS.com). anywho, that's my 2 cents.

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D-SIPL

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From: Maesteg, Wales
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Hmmm... i might go and write a Python tutorial.

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GUMP

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From: Melbourne, FL USA
Registered: 11-09-2002
A self-declared atheist used to be one of the programmers for Two Guys Software. He worked with TGS productively for most of the development of EW: Shadows of Light and the beginning stages of Nightmares. His leaving had nothing to do with a conflict of belief but a disagreement when it came to business matters. Since the disagreement was mainly with Mack I'll let him tell you more if he wants to.
bennythebear

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From: kentucky,usa
Registered: 12-13-2003
i would be interested in a python tutorial. i've got an idea. this site could have some kind of book section, books on different programming languages, programming topics, etc. of course could link to amazon.com(or another affiliate type bookstore) which would help a little bit to support the site. or, after a tutorial on something(like python), you could link to a book that goes further in detail, and you find/found useful.

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proverbs 17:28
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia

www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs

D-SIPL

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From: Maesteg, Wales
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Ok i'll write a tutorial this weekend.

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goop2

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What we need is competitions. Heres an example http://www.digitalnecropolis.com/forum_topic.asp?t=380&l=y#last

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I dont like siggys. They are to hard to think up

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Briant

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Posts: 742
From: Stony Plain, Alberta, Canada
Registered: 01-20-2001
I don't know if we have enough people with common skill sets to have competitions. Maybe. It might be worth it first to do a survey of how strong people feel in different programming languages and other aspects of project development (art, modelling, etc.)

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CapnStank

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From: Sask, Canada
Registered: 12-16-2004
Well here's how it goes for me in coding:

Know:
-C (except for pointers and advanced file i/o)
-Python (really easy once you know C)
-Game maker, although I really don't credit it as a REAL language since its restricted to game maker exclusively

Learning:
-C++ (middle of learning it in class already, yeah I'm way far ahead compaired to the rest)

Going to learn:
-Java - sometime before june, part of my Computer Science 30 class
-Visual Basic (hopefully) - if we get through java we'll hit this up... my friend who took the class last year said they never got to it, but I got a smaller class which means quicker progress.

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Jesus is f'ing metal!

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cheybea
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I know that I don't post much...ok, at all. =)
I know absolutely nothing about coding and stuff. I'm more into the digital art side of things.
But I love coming here.
I do wish that there were more people here that do what I do.

-Chels

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Brandon

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Hey Cheybea,
I for one do artwork. I think that there are a few others here as well... not too sure who though...

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Brandon

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Registered: 02-02-2004
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CapnStank

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Pointless post? double post? Yeah I do a lot of visual art too. Mostly pencil sketching because once I add colour to my stuff I usually hate it.

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ArchAngel

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From: SV, CA, USA
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haha. me too.

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D-SIPL

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Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
I code in

- Python
- Java
- enough C++ to write a 2d map editor and various other tools.

Learning
- 3d Modelling grrrr...

--D-SIPL

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HanClinto

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From: Indiana
Registered: 10-11-2004
C / C++ / C#
Visual Basic 6

Can understand others, such as
Delphi
Java

Most of my work is done in C variants though.

--clint

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ArchAngel

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Posts: 3450
From: SV, CA, USA
Registered: 01-29-2002
right now, I can code in Java, and my VB and C++ has receded into being able to read and edit it.

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AmazingJas

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Registered: 04-03-2003
Hi guys, long time no see

I've been 'learning the trade' for a while, trying to improve my coding and graphics as I go. I'm making remakes of old console/computer/arcade games as a fun way to learn good coding techniques. When I reach a level of satisfaction in my own techniques, I will hopefully move onto Christian/educational production, but I'm not there yet.
I do have a few games that I've done on my site, www.spacialfx.com, which are fun I believe, and hopefully each one is more polished than the last
Is CCN serving a purpose for me? Not at the moment, but all things go through their 'dry' or 'valley' times. You'll see

bennythebear

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man, what happened??? i read a topic from back in 2001 about heavy metal Christian music, it had actual depth, people serious about God. i'm not saying people that post now aren't but i really liked that post. i believe mack started it. i think mack, at least back then, has a simlar view on certain things that i do. such as death would be better than this life, in that it takes us to eternal life with Christ, where there is no sin, no death, no suffering, and no satan! ahhh...that's gonna be the life, nothing but God...

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proverbs 17:28
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia

www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs

D-SIPL

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Posts: 1345
From: Maesteg, Wales
Registered: 07-21-2001
quote:
Originally posted by bennythebear:
man, what happened??? i read a topic from back in 2001 about heavy metal Christian music, it had actual depth, people serious about God. i'm not saying people that post now aren't but i really liked that post. i believe mack started it. i think mack, at least back then, has a simlar view on certain things that i do. such as death would be better than this life, in that it takes us to eternal life with Christ, where there is no sin, no death, no suffering, and no satan! ahhh...that's gonna be the life, nothing but God...


I remember that post. I like life as it is right now personally, it means i can tell be people about Christ, and receive more rewards when i finally do 'kick the bucket'

--D-SIPL

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"One World. One Web. One Program." -Microsoft promotional advertisement
"Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer!" -Adolf Hitler

bennythebear

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Posts: 1225
From: kentucky,usa
Registered: 12-13-2003
i get where your coming from . i don't agree with you exactly, but as this topic covers, theological debates are getting really old. but yeah, to die is Christ, do live is gain...it's all good as long as Christ is involved

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proverbs 17:28
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

www.gfa.org - Gospel for Asia

www.persecution.com - Voice of the Martyrs

goop2

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I still dont understand where the exitement will come from thought... no death = no fear of death = to reason to ride rollercoaster... *sigh* There must be something thats gonna happen up there... Like eating ice cream 8D

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I dont like siggys. They are to hard to think up :(