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Deja Vu...please read and comment – mellonamin

mellonamin

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This is my theory of Deja Vu...I was bored in homeroom today so I decided to write something and this is what came out...

THEORY OF DEJA VU:

The brain has a unique yet constant number the represents how much storage space is available for memories. At an early stage of development, this amount is determined and never changes. When this amount is decided, the area is immediately filled with information about the individual's surroundings which is perceived by the senses in the form of memories.

As conditions change, the brain discards older memories, and the voids that are created are filled with the new information. As life progresses, the majority, if not all of these "original" memories are destroyed. This offers an explanation to the difficulty in remembering things that happened in the toddler years.

By following the preceding theory, before being filled by the "original" memories, the mind is exposed to the entire future of the individual by some supernatural cause, but is instantly replaced by memories of current conditions.

Sometimes, the older memories are not totally discarded, but simply moved to an area of the brain that is not accessible by current memories.

As the individual progresses through life, these memories may leak back into the pool of current memories at the same time as the memory is actually occuring in the individual's life. This would cause the phenomenon known as Deja Vu.

The brain tries to correct this leak and storage overflow by finding and permanently destroying the memory. This also explains why it is so difficult to remember Deja Vu after it occurs.

What do you think? I know this probably isn't even possible, but you never know...just think about it.

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Stalks-the-Night

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First i have to say that is a very good idea of what it means.

Also what's the name mellonamin mean?

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Simon_Templar

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My theory of Deja Vu is actually somewhat similar, but it has a few different twists so I'll explain.


The human brain is an absolutely amazing thing, its capabilities, even in our age of science, are not fully known. There is a common myth that humans only use 10% of their brain. This isn't true, the entire physical brain is active most of the time, even in deep REM sleep 60% of the brain is active. It is true, however, that science has not yet even discovered the limits (if there are limits) of the brain's cognitive potential let alone most people coming anywhere near reaching that full potential.

I believe that when mankind was created we were capable of reaching the full cognitive potential of our brain. Or at least capable of using much more of the potential than we now do. I think that when mankind fell through sin it negatively affected our ability to utilize the full potential of the brain. Either God specificly reduced the capability, or it was simply lost as the consequence of sin and our disconnection from God and his divine mind.
For example, the concious mind may have been capable of directing the body's repairative functions. We all know that the human body heals itself etc, this function is driven, like your heartbeat etc, from the automated, subconcious part of your mind. Perhaps at one point the concious mind was capable of directing the healing process fully and this stopped aging, or it could have allowed for near complete regeneration of physical damage etc.
Thus I think in the fall of mankind certain aspects of the mind which we were once able to control with the concious mind, were relegated to the deep subconcious and even automated functions within the brain.
One of the cognitive abilities that may have been lost in this process is pre-cognition.. the ability to think or see things before they come to pass. If this ability were in a sense, "shut off" by relegating it to the deep unconcious mind we would no longer have use of it, however, particularly in dream state it may still "flicker" from time to time causing us to dream the future. However, because this function of the mind has been relegated to the deep subconcious what it sees when it flickers is also buried deep within the subconcious. So why does it surface as Deja Vu?
The human mind works on the basis of ascociation. When I learn something my mind puts a tag on it and stores it away.. whenever something I experience pops up that storage tag, the information stored under the tag is retrieved. We usualy direct this process with our concious mind as a computer does when searching for data. However, the mind, being very complex, also does this on its own without our concious direction. Thats why you can be talking about some random topic, like cheese and boom your mind hits the cheese tag which also has cheese head stored under it.. cheese head also has football and packers stored so boom you went from cheese to a cool play you saw in last weeks football game without intending to.
Working off this principle, when you experience something that you have subconciously seen before your subconcious mind recognizes the tag and spits up the memory of what your subconcious mind saw, Deja Vu.. however, the subconcious mind is not easily accessable by the concious mind, so when the ascociation fades and the images are taken back to subconcious storage, you can no long actively access them, and have "forgoten" the experience.


This is of course all wild speculation but hey.. wild speculation is fun. Hopefully it made enough sense that you could follow it.

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bennythebear

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i agree with a lot of what you said about the fall of man simon. deja vu, i really don't know how to explain it. sometimes i think it's just we simply had a similar experience but our mind can't quite place it. now i've been somewhere, and remember a dream i've had that was that situation down to the details, and sometimes i had the dream before i had ever been in that place, or before i even knew the people i was with. but i look at that as God letting me know i'm still His, and He's still in control.

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CheeseStorm
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I think it's our brains playing tricks on us.

Anyone else ever had a sort of ultra deja vu where you remember a time where you were remembering something that never actually happened...? It's been a couple years but phew those were intense.

mellonamin

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@Stalks
Mellonamin means "Your Friend" in Sindarin...if you don't know what that is, it is a language invented by J. R. R. Tolkien.

@Simon
That is an awesome theory. I think that it is very possible! Great thinking!

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Max

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Hmmm, wild speculation? I think you put a lot of thought and time into that, didn't you?

Deja Vu, literally translated from French means "Seen again", or "Already seen." I very much enjoyed your speculations, I certainly don't have any. I can say that I experience Deja Vu very often. I do know that one time I dreamed about what HAD happened, which is not deja vu, but one time I dreamed about having deja vu. That was really freaky.

It would be interesting to consider if our subconsious minds are linked somehow to the space-time continueum(sp?) If our minds "dipped" in and out every once in a while, it could be the reason we have deja vu, and possibly explain some people's visions? Just something I thought about.

I love French, it is such a fun language. Souris!

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mellonamin

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I agree with you about French...I love it even though I've only had like 4 weeks of French I in Highschool...lol...I have had Latin I & II though and plan on taking Latin 3 & 4 and French 2-4...

Actually, Max, I came up with that theory in homeroom in about an hour and a half...well, I came up with the idea while trying to go to sleep...

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Stalks-the-Night

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@mellonamin
Thanks for the quick resonse. I play a online game and the guild i'm in uses that language. It just kinda took me by suprise.

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cheybea
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Deja Vu is creepy to me.
Makes you feel soo odd.

Just thought I'd add something...I haven't been active here much.

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CoolJ

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those are cool theories, but I think it might just be a short circuit between long term and short term (immediate) memory.

as your brain is writing to immediate memory what you are currently experiencing, it is also reading from long term memory to help interprete what you are experiencing. But, what happens during deja vu is the nueron paths chosen for the 'read' ends up stumbling back into the exact location where you are recording your new experience in short term memory. So your brain starts telling you that you've experienced this before and it is 'exactly' the same.

I'm guessing this is caused by a defective neuron, but thankfully the brain probably has built in error checking for this and allows us to abort out of this situation after a few seconds. Something as efficient as our brain probably timestamps memories, so after checking the timestamp it realizes its writing and reading from the same place. Traces the long term query path back to the defective neuron and tags it for destruction.

CoolJ

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just thought of something - wouldn't it be cool if the person's head you are in- in Eternal War: Nightmares had deja vu, that could be a wicked level
mellonamin

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@stalks

What game is that? Sounds like it'd be fun...

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CapnStank

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Anyone who takes a fake language (Sindarin) seriously enough to build a guild around it (or include it to a great extent) needs to get outside and grab themselves a tan.

Deja Vu is well, odd. We've all experienced it and we all have out own thoughts on it. There's only a few cases that I can remember specifically here but who really cares. I know both were from dreams I had then the next day or so I experience the Deja Vu. Odd I know but best left alone or I'll hurt myself thinking out it. I'm sure I'd experience it more but its about a 1/100 chance that I remember any dreams from the previous night once I awake.

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