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Is Japan society immoral? – warsong




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Japan generally has an immoral view on things. They try to beat the American TV reality shows. One reality show is find the virgin, which in a way few guys have to find a virgin within a bunch of non virgins and they take the girl on a date and have sex to see if they won. Talk about being depraved and its not just that show they have an entire line of odd shows like this. The show on comedy central insomniac talked about it.

Some facts stated by BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3890689.stm
“By the age of 17, more than a third of teenagers in Japan have already had sex at least once.”
“Sexually-transmitted diseases are rising rapidly among young women - a sure sign of having sex with multiple partners”
“"Teenagers these days are very casual about sex. They're happy to have sex with anyone they meet - they use phrases like 'let's play together?' "I gave away vouchers for free STD tests to girls, and found that 82% them were infected.”
“In Japan, sex has become a freely-traded commodity, seemingly unconstrained by moral concerns. Dozens of pornographic cable TV channels on sale here, and yet sales of condoms have been falling for several years.“

Another site says this
“Health experts say this number could increase to 50,000 by 2010 because of a booming sex trade… Masako Kihara, an AIDS expert and adviser to the health ministry, more than 60 percent of the newly infected are in their teens or 20s.”

Also this
Dr Hirofumi Chikuni, a gynaecologist who runs a private clinic near Yokohama, has seen little evidence of patients switching to the Pill.
He is not convinced that Japan's high abortion rate will drop, even with the prevalence of the Pill, saying that women who are not in a steady relationship are less likely to take it.
He said: "What's happening in Japan is that married couples stop having sex quite soon after getting married.
"An increasing number of my patients are wives trapped in these sexless marriages who then become pregnant in extramarital affairs."

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Some facts stated by BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3890689.stm
“By the age of 17, more than a third of teenagers in Japan have already had sex at least once.”
“Sexually-transmitted diseases are rising rapidly among young women - a sure sign of having sex with multiple partners”
“Teenagers these days are very casual about sex...

The other stuff sounds quite extreme, but how is this part different from the UK and US? Especially considering the age of consent is 16 in the UK (what is it in the US?). Just trying to keep this in perspective - Japan can't be too much worse than elsewhere because elsewhere is already pretty bad!

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Yeah things aren't quite that bad in the US just yet. Actually there will be a Billy Graham Crusade in a couple of weeks here in Kansas City!!! And I can't wait! Please pray for God to send revival through this city, and the nation, and throughout the world. I truly believe it can happen.


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the numbers are worse in the tokyo area, like average age of losing virgininty is something like 12
its a very hard thing to explain (japanese messed up sexuality) and japanese moral situation, mostly everything about japan / japanese is a paradox , i.e crime is very low, as is violent crime, but the violent crime that does have is very extreme, also rape % is huge, i've read figures of up to 80% , which seems it can;t be true, but having ministered to japanese and lived in japan, and being able to think like a japanese person (to an extend because of thinking in the language) i can understand it.. With japan the low crime rate is mostly because of crime is not socially accepted, but immoral sex is, that one reality show seems tame compared to many others, and you get japanese comics manga showing very explicit things, with people openly reading these on the subway, including things like demons raping school kids and all, and next to the cigarette dispensing machine, you can pop in some coins and get a pair on high school girls panties to sniff - i mean japanese sexuality is just messed up as a whole,

but Jesus can redeem even that..
its sad that japan is one of the most resistant countries to the gospel, despite having alot of missionaries and resources.

Japan throughout asia is known for its sexuality immoraily, China has a huge problem with it,as it tries to keep out pornography.

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billy graham. has anyone ever noticed something odd about him. like he holds his bible in his hands while preaching as if to read from it, then you see his eyes reading from his bible stand? could just be me, but...anywho...the legal age of consent is 18 in america. but in one state you can get married at 14, and here in kentucky at 16, but if it's real marriage than i wouldn't see anything wrong with it. marriage is set up by GOD, and the marriage bed is undefiled, but everything outside of that is perversion.

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I guess that is like saying is America immoral---our new sitcoms talk about mothers taking child support and using it for breast enlargement---so you know we aren't that much worse------you can speak Japanese Klumsy? only learning here--can form basic sentances----and only some Japanese are into the messed up sexuality--I have some friends in Japan that are very innocent when it comes to that kinda thing---including a host sister (I spent 2 weeks in Kumamoto, Japan) that wore a shirt that said 'Kinky Physical Education Department' until I told her what kinky meant--to which she covered the shirt with her arms and screamed 'I bought this in Los Angeles!' so I personally think it is like the porn freaks here--just Japan is a smaller area than the US so it is much easier to see deviancy there because you have a smaller group to look at that still has all the complexities of our culture---and there is some christianity in Japan--look at Nagasaki--it is the christian cultural center in Japan----I think it just needs someone to engage Japanese on their level--missionaires and such are European-American style--what would really engage the Japanese is Christian Video Games and Christian Manga that was entertaining and not afraid to explore deep subjects---many secular manga from Japan shows that Japanese have an interest in Christianity--they just don't honestly know enough about it----so someone has to present it to them in a way they can appreciate and accept

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the world is screwed. picking and choosing who is good and who is not is pretty much worthless. Work on ourselves first.

besides, it's unfair to stereotype an entire community, as zookey pointed out with his example.

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many secular manga from Japan shows that Japanese have an interest in Christianity

like the Priest in Trigun?

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Everyone said some good points. The USA has influenced other countries to be immoral. The USA started the sex magazines, and sex movies. The USA tries to show off that everyone should copy them on how they act and

Also they kill off the priest in tri gun.

Another interesting note is that in games they show the cross off, like Castlevania 4 for the SNES. But in the American version it is not in the game to not offend people. Well every country has its own kind of perversions, and the show that talked about it glorifies what they do in Japan it seems. Well at least you have here Christian groups that fight back, over their in Japan they do not have that and it’s getting strange.

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----and only some Japanese are into the messed up sexuality


maybe into the extreme perverted parts, and of course there are those with morals and all as well, but the general population is messed up sexuality to be able to more than compete with their 'sexually liberated' western counterparts. Its been sad in the past to discover the not so innocent antics of my 'innocent' students.

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I think it just needs someone to engage Japanese on their level--missionaires and such are European-American style--what would really engage the Japanese is Christian Video Games and Christian Manga that was entertaining and not afraid to explore deep subjects---many secular manga from Japan shows that Japanese have an interest in Christianity--they just don't honestly know enough about it----so someone has to present it to them in a way they can appreciate and accept


many of the missionaries i know are japanese themselves, or at least are in touch with japanese thinking patterns. there is a big cultural and more importantly spiritual climate over japan that are so opposed to the gospel, as well as very simple things like the fact there is no decent 'one God' concept or word in their religious history. BUT ANYWAY
HIGH QUALITY MANGA WITH CHRISTIAN THEMES IS SUCH A KILLER IDEA THAT I'D WANT TO SINK A MILLION DOLLARS INTO IT. not so much games, that wouldn't get them, but MANGA can have elaborate themes, storylines in them. even Manga style tracks would be a good style.

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Japanese society is no different than any other society in terms of morality, as many of you have pointed out. Scripture says none are righteous apart from God; so how can any society be morally decent? (Not a rhetorical question.)
A society is no better than the worst individual in it. This isn't a negative comment or bitter outlook. Many people think that surrounding the bad with the good, or removing the bad altogether from the good, solves the problem of having the bad to begin with. Truth is, as scripture proves as well as real-life experience, that the bad always bring down the good and not the reverse. Since the beginning of time, the bad element has ruined the good element (remember how sin came to exist among mankind?).
There is a difference between being good and being godly. Many people think these are the same thing, but true and pure goodness can only come from godliness (check it out in Galatians 5:22 and Ephesians 5:9). I hope that you who claim to be Christians are being godly and not just good, so that you are a force against nature in the part of the world you live.

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i fully agree matt,
all men have fallen short of the glory of God,
and any societies 'moral standards' can only go so far, human goodness is like fithly rags to God. And human goodness/morality without submission and dependance to God often just covers up surface sin, while the heart festers worse, only Jesus can save, and Goodness can only come from God. (though that doesn't make human goodness bad, its still good, as God did put good stuff in us in creating us)
i find as different people have tendencies towards different sins, certian societies are bound up with a stronger affliction to certian sins than other sins (as well as powers and principalities over certian areas have different strongholds).

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An anime is a good idea; the problem is artists and story lol. Or maybe have my game idea be part of the story. But they also have those x rated anime which does not give it credibility.

As for bad bringing down good, it reminds me of what some say that if your mix sh** with ice cream you only ruin the ic cream. Some societies are slightly ahead of the other and show a glimpse to the future which countries like Sweden and Japan will show how others will act. People are reminded of Sodom and Gomorra after it happened but then people forget it and then think it’s just a story and once everyone is comfortable they will do it again. You can see how someone truly is when you let them free. Many good people but not much guidance spiritually, but mostly on the physical.

Another thing is culture in a way, which a Japanese guy said that he is embarrasses by his Japanese history. I guess they are trying to be worldly it seems. There was a mini show called Shogun which had many missionaries got their, but they didn't not say what happened afterwards how the emperor killed all Christian missionaries and converts. The emperor did not want competition is seems and disgorged it even though many wanted to believe.

A strange thing is that they are not allowed to show pubic hair and that it is very taboo. And find the virgin is not taboo it sees. They do not hurt others and they only hurt themselves which it is a same, but it’s good that they do not impose it on other cultures and only try to show the positive thing.

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I've enjoyed reading this thread.

I'll agree with what others have said, but add.. each culture and sub-culture has its particular blindspots about wickedness.. but to me it seems that it is particular in excess in cultures that worship or placate spirits (Haiti comes to mind, btw).

Slightly more positive note:
Our company is studying a book called the "Toyota Way", and I'd highly recommend it. Its basically a book on ethical and wise business practices that Toyota employs. When I read it, I can't help but feel that picked up some profoundly Biblical ethics in approach Business...

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What did Toyota say?
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Originally posted by warsong:
Everyone said some good points. The USA has influenced other countries to be immoral. The USA started the sex magazines, and sex movies. The USA tries to show off that everyone should copy them on how they act

You're Right about that.

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If a thread is over 6 months old please start another thread, link to the old thread and continue the discussion in the new thread rather than ressurecting an old thread.

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