goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
How do I go about coding in C++? No im not thinking I can learn to ride a bike in 2 seconds  I know it will be hard to learn, but I want to learn it and... I dont even know how to code with it. Is there a program to do it or something? What do i do?------------------ True = False |
Klumsy Administrator Posts: 1061 From: Port Angeles, WA, USA Registered: 10-25-2001 |
what is your programming background, and what context do you wish to start in? if not any background te best thing is get a simple IDe compiler that is very small, and quick with a debugger, and just make simple console programs following a book/tutorial ------------------ |
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goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
Programing background? Context? I havent a clue. All I know is C++ is a code ------------------ "Democrats stink" |
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Klumsy Administrator Posts: 1061 From: Port Angeles, WA, USA Registered: 10-25-2001 |
what is your intended end use then of C++? if you have no programming backgound, maybe try learning another language first, the learning curve is not so steep and less frutrating, learning another language WILL help you learn C++, because it gives you the concepts, plus if you learn a C based language such as Java then you have alot of the syntax and concepts.. ------------------ |
D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
quote: I couldn't agree more, i think i posted this in another thread. If you try and learn C++ first then you will more then likely end up just giving up. It's a steep learning curve. The best way to learn is doing some fun stuff. Try a language thats basic and learn the concepts of programming, you will get results quickly so you can start writing stuff that actually interests you. --D-SIPL ------------------ |
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goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
I figured I would work my way from Game Maker to it... Game Maker has a built in language but isnt as flexible as C. so I guess now the question would be.. How do I go about coding in java? [This message has been edited by goop2 (edited August 23, 2004).] |
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d000hg Member Posts: 144 From: Durham, UK Registered: 07-27-2004 |
I'm not sure you'd find java any easier than C++. There's a few nice features (like you can't request some memory from the computer and forget to give it back, using it all up) but in C++ is closer to how the computer actually works which to me makes it easier to visualise. C++ is MUCH faster than java and is the most widely used language which means more of a support base. |
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Klumsy Administrator Posts: 1061 From: Port Angeles, WA, USA Registered: 10-25-2001 |
quote: that is very true, except the beginning of C++ is very different, and you have so many platforms etc, unless he is just wanting a text console to learn on, i'd go with something else.. I personally don't like java but its a language in an 'articial container' called a virtual machine, so if you get a good free IDE, and a good book, you'll be able to get a good start.. but maybe if you are into graphics, go the blitzbasic way as well.. or find a graphical programming enviroment that is based on C or some sort (as long as it has a good debugger) if you want to go the plain C++ way.. i can email you a small free compiler that is only a few hundred KB wiht IDE and all (for making plain C++ stuff with input/output to a console. ------------------ |
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d000hg Member Posts: 144 From: Durham, UK Registered: 07-27-2004 |
Good point - I'd not thought of the Windows side, which although not part of the language is pretty much essential knowledge. MFC makes it easier but for a beginner I'd think it would be very hard. Maybe learning console-based text apps 1st is the best way to abstract the language away from that stuff - a good approach for any language I'd say. Maybe Visual Basic would be good instead as a 'real language' - no offense to the BLitz supporters but it's not a 'serious' language in terms of industrial use I don't think? To be up to speed, learning a language as part of .NET would be advantageous, but I think learning just the language is a better option. You can learn BASIC, FORTRAN, C/C++ as platform-independant (and Java sort of). |
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Klumsy Administrator Posts: 1061 From: Port Angeles, WA, USA Registered: 10-25-2001 |
if you were to go dotnet.. learning C# is a good option.. and there are .net binding for direct3d for C#, so you can learn a C style language (really nice language), learn windows UI style programming (an easy one to use compared to MFC) and make some games as well.. i think you can get visualstudio.net C# standard for about us$100, or actually the compiler is free, and there is a free IDE (enviroment to make your code) called SharpDevelop that is pretty good. if you go the C# way, you'd have alot of help from me.. (with the language) but also on the graphics front. here is a link to sharpdevelop, the free ide for C# development ------------------ [This message has been edited by klumsy (edited August 25, 2004).] |
CobraA1 Member Posts: 926 From: MN Registered: 02-19-2001 |
I don't think C++ is quite that steep - basic console stuff is simple to create. The hardest part will probably be getting used to the way pointers work, and remembering to clean up your memory. I've found Java to be a lot easier for stuff such as threading and GUI stuff than C++. Programs such as NetBeans even allow you to create a GUI visually, just like in Visual Basic. As far as speed goes, that depends a lot on the virtual machine you use: By switching to Sun's JVM from Microsoft's, I get a very noticeable speed improvement. ------------------ Switch Mayhem now available! Get it here |
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goop2 Member Posts: 1059 From: Registered: 06-30-2004 |
I didnt want to spend any money on it (considering the fact that i cant) but your offer is a very good one so ill pm you my e-mail and we can be... key-pals! (I like short paragraphs and long tutorials)------------------ "Democrats stink" |
