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Concerning IExplorer and SpyWare – ArchAngel

ArchAngel

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K... I just want to take this time to say how much I hate spyware.
I WANT IT TO DIE! DIE, I say! DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!

okay. I'm better now.
basically, my computer had more "spy"s than the USSR. I got a some programs to clean it up, computer started running better, but... something happened and I can't use Internet Explorer anymore. It says I can't access the page. ya know, the message if your not connected, type the wrong address, or get a broken link.
I'm pretty close to playing around with the Registry and re-installing windows. again.
I can access the internet through Outlook and Windows Explorer. (yes, it's wierd) Windows Explorer is wierd, cuz it seems to change into Internet Explorer. oh well. It's bothering me. and, still, my stuff acts up on me sometimes. I suspect more spyware, but can't find it. I also think the spyware that caused this is BrowserAid. Evil....
so, basically, any ideas on what's going on, how I can fix it, or a good alternative browser?

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Miami Brice

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www.opera.com
Briant

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I second Opera, if you don't mind the ads. I also have been *really* liking Firefox - it's great now, and when it gets out of pre-1.0 state, it's going to be fantastic.

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Miami Brice

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Opera is well worth the modest registration fee.

I never got into any of the Mozilla based browsers. I can't fathom installing an open source browser on my system. An open source browser meets my personal definition of a Trojan.

Briant

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I can't fathom spending $30 just to get rid of a few ads, especially when there are so many free alternatives.

Avant is also a popular browser, but I have not tried it myself.

And Miami Brice, you must have an interesting definition of a Trojan.

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Briant

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ArchAngel, I forgot to mention: I recommend Ad-aware for spyware detection/removal. Once a week I run the updater and do a scan, and it does a great job.

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nfektious
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Spybot-Search & Destroy [ http://www.safer-networking.org/ ] is another good utility to prevent unwanted hijacking of your browser. Nonetheless, nothing is bulletproof. Spyware and such continue to improve, just like hackers and such do. One day you are safe, and the next you aren't...like all these type of packages you have to maintain that update/upgrade.

A few tips for XP users:
> Some spyware/adware/etc. can install itself in your Prefetch folder and still remain after "uninstalling".
> Some spyware/adware/etc run in the background and can be easily detected by viewing your Processes tab in Task Manager.

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Note that if you are unsure what a Process is that is running, there are several solid resources online that can help you determine what is a viable system process and what is not. But, be careful and think about what is installed on your machine before you go through the step of removing something.
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> Most all spyware/adware/etc includes at least one (understatement) Registry setting. Probably all spyware/adware/etc have aliases and might travel with other nasties. When looking for a particular file on your system, take note of the folder name. If you have to edit your Registry, search for all the known names - and take note while in your Registry as you can sometimes learn more about the location of the nasties. Registry editing is like handling your grandmother's Chinaware - do it *very carefully*.

Hope you have success!
Matt

edit: added URL for Spybot :P

[This message has been edited by nfektious (edited April 29, 2004).]

Imsold4christ

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I second Firefox. No one should ever have to pay for a web browser, or be forced to view ads from it. Firefox has some pretty yummy extensions that are very useful for web developers, btw. Oh yeah, and Ad-aware is a'ight.

†Caleb†

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Miami Brice

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quote:
I second Firefox
This is a question, not a flame. Have they managed to get the kinks out of the Mozilla browsers? I haven't tried any in about a year, but the last ones I tried were horribly slow and the popup stoppers didn't stop popups.
nfektious
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I didn't realize there were some Firefox/Opera users here. Can I get some feedback on this site - http://www.cgdc.org - and how it displays in your browser please? I heard of one report that it didn't work in Firefox - but that is unsubstantiated. Not sure how it is in Opera. Any other browser users are free to respond as well. Thanks all

Oh, and while you are at it, can you give me some feedback on this site - http://www.nullgames.com - too? Thanks again.

[This message has been edited by nfektious (edited April 30, 2004).]

ArchAngel

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yeah, I used Spybot. um.. I think that's why Iexplorer's not working. after a clean... it just stopped working. so, out of my frustration, I took it off.

I tried turning off some spyware using the processes tab in the Task manager.. but they just came back.
I've editted the registry once to fix a problem, and that was under instruction.

hmm.. I might just check out FireFox. and Ad-aware.

thanks.

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CobraA1

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quote:

I can't fathom installing an open source browser on my system. An open source browser meets my personal definition of a Trojan.

I'd love to hear this definition!

quote:

This is a question, not a flame. Have they managed to get the kinks out of the Mozilla browsers? I haven't tried any in about a year, but the last ones I tried were horribly slow and the popup stoppers didn't stop popups.

Yes, especially with Firefox - Firefox gets rid of all the bloat that was in Mozilla. Firefox is sleek, clean, and modular. I've been using it many months, and it is excellent. Firefox is a seperate download than Mozilla, BTW.

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Avant is also a popular browser, but I have not tried it myself.

It's IE with a few things tacked on. Other than MDI (and even then, I prefer tabs over MDI anyways), it doesn't offer anything more than other browsers. All that stuff can be done with Opera or Firefox with a few plugins.

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Can I get some feedback on this site - http://www.cgdc.org - and how it displays in your browser please?

It's made in Flash, so it works in any browser with Flash installed. And yes, Flash is available for Mozilla and Firefox - it works fine on my computer, I use Firefox.

BTW, that's the last time I'll ever go to your website again - I'm a firm believer in not using Flash as a way to make entire webpages. In fact, many people disable Flash so they don't have to deal with Flash banner ads. So anybody (including IE users) might not be able to see it if they have Flash disabled!

Nullgames seems to work - but I can't seem to access the archives .

I use Spybot S&D to get rid of ad/spyware. But with Firefox, I don't really get any ad/spyware .

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ArchAngel

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DOOODE! AdAware rocks.it got Iexplorer back on.

um.. however... windows media player won't play anything now. haha. after fixing one problem...
oh well.. I'll see what I can do with it. lol. and, I have other media players. (musicmatch, winamp, etc.)

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nfektious
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quote:
Originally posted by CobraA1:
It's made in Flash, so it works in any browser with Flash installed. And yes, Flash is available for Mozilla and Firefox - it works fine on my computer, I use Firefox.

BTW, that's the last time I'll ever go to your website again - I'm a firm believer in not using Flash as a way to make entire webpages. In fact, many people disable Flash so they don't have to deal with Flash banner ads. So anybody (including IE users) might not be able to see it if they have Flash disabled!

Nullgames seems to work - but I can't seem to access the archives .

I use Spybot S&D to get rid of ad/spyware. But with Firefox, I don't really get any ad/spyware .


If it isn't a Flash ad it is a java/javascript/html popup of some sort. I understand your point tho, but that is sorta like throwing the baby out with the bathwater isn't it?

Anyway, the CGDC site was in the process of being redesigned but not sure what happened there. Thanks for checking it for me...and the nullgames site too. (Oh, btw, archives aren't available because the site just went online...so, no archives yet )

God bless,
Matt

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CobraA1

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quote:

If it isn't a Flash ad it is a java/javascript/html popup of some sort.

True, but every bit helps.

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but that is sorta like throwing the baby out with the bathwater isn't it?

Most people don't play Flash games or use Flash apps anyways, so it usually doesn't matter to them.

Note that I have Flash enabled - I'm talking about other people here!

Your Firefox complaint was probably from somebody who didn't have Flash for Mozilla/Firefox installed.

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(Oh, btw, archives aren't available because the site just went online...so, no archives yet)

OK. It works no problems then .

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ArchAngel

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so that's why Cobra skipped my flash intro to my website when posting my link. lol. well.. it's gone! haha.

oh.. and I got Windows media player working. I'm not that incapable.

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Briant

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quote:
Originally posted by nfektious:
I didn't realize there were some Firefox/Opera users here. Can I get some feedback on this site - http://www.cgdc.org - and how it displays in your browser please? I heard of one report that it didn't work in Firefox - but that is unsubstantiated. Not sure how it is in Opera. Any other browser users are free to respond as well. Thanks all

Oh, and while you are at it, can you give me some feedback on this site - http://www.nullgames.com - too? Thanks again.


Both sites looked identical to me when I compared between Firefox and IE6.

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Miami Brice

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quote:
Yes, especially with Firefox - Firefox gets rid of all the bloat that was in Mozilla. Firefox is sleek, clean, and modular. I've been using it many months, and it is excellent. Firefox is a seperate download than Mozilla, BTW.
Thanks, I will check it out. The new 7.5 beta of Opera is really gross looking (currently using Opera 7.23). If Opera is going south, I need to find a replacement
Miami Brice

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Took five minutes of using it to convince me to permanently switch to Firefox. Fast as can be and popups are actually blocked, Mozilla finally got it right
CobraA1

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Yeah, Firefox was a rewrite, with the basis being to have a minimalist browser supported by plugins.

If you want some of your features from Opera back, such as mouse gestures, go look at the plugins.

While you're at it, check out the "Tabbrowser Extentions" plugin also. Very good .

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graceworks
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I run spyware now and then (should probably automate it).

I've been using CrazyBrowser which lets you do different sites like a filing tab. I believe each tab is really I.E. though but it does have built-in poptart blocking. The cool feature if you can set up groups of web pages and load them all by just selecting a group. I was hoping that help me keep up on all the forums for Christian Games but there are too many!

God bless,
Tim

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Miami Brice

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Any recommendations on Thunderbird for an E-Mail client?
ArchAngel

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graceworks, you run spyware on purpose? lol. just playing with ya.

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CobraA1

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quote:

I've been using CrazyBrowser which lets you do different sites like a filing tab. I believe each tab is really I.E. though but it does have built-in poptart blocking. The cool feature if you can set up groups of web pages and load them all by just selecting a group.

The Tabbrowser Extensions plugin for Mozilla/Firefox has tab groups also .

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Any recommendations on Thunderbird for an E-Mail client?

Don't know, never tried it. I hear it's good, though. I personally use Pegasus Mail because I Pmail's power.

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There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, "All right, then, have it your way." -- C. S. Lewis

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D-SIPL

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Thunderbird is pretty good, i use it one of my linux boxes.

Firefox rox, also use that on all of my Linux boxes, and i must say, that with every update it gets quicker and better. It had it's teething problems but then what program doesn't. We all know to well what company does this all to often!

--D-SIPL

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Miami Brice

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Thank you again for the advice on Firefox & Thunderbird. Very happily flying along :c)
graceworks
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quote:
Originally posted by ArchAngel:
graceworks, you run spyware on purpose? lol. just playing with ya.


LOL. That was an oops.
I run spybot now and then!

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