Crptc_Prgrmr Member Posts: 169 From: Registered: 02-05-2002 |
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=105-02052004 ------------------ |
ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
marriage is between a man and women... is it too hard to comprehend? I mean... if someone was designed to be gay, he'd be a woman.(and vis versa...) ------------------ |
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Skynes Member Posts: 202 From: Belfast, N Ireland Registered: 01-18-2004 |
I blame evolution... Ppl no longer believe Genesis because of it! Especially the part that says "a man will leave his mother and father to join his wife and they will be one flesh" bit? |
D-SIPL Moderator Posts: 1345 From: Maesteg, Wales Registered: 07-21-2001 |
It all comes down to God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve! --D-SIPL ------------------ |
BKewl Member Posts: 144 From: St. Charles, MO, USA Registered: 07-10-2002 |
While I agree with what's been said above (and before), I have to wonder if some miscommunication has gone on. IIRC, gays are pushing for *civil marriage*, which if I'm correct is different from *Christian marriage*. Does anyone know exactly what is said/what happens during a civil marriage? IIRC, isn't that just the going down to the courthouse to be married by a judge thing? Is God mentioned in the process or what (if so, then yes it would be wrong, but so would a bunch of other things; see my last question at the bottom)? I don't condone homosexuality at all, and think that homosexuals shouldn't be married in the church because it's obviously anti-Biblical (despite current popular distortions), *but* what's preventing them from getting the 1,049 or so equal rights given to all civil marriages? Anybody have more specific details on those rights? The problems I foresee with such things are that we'd have even more confusion with the word "marriage" and which someone is referring to, and it would definitely encourage homosexuals to obtain civil marriage licenses, which wouldn't be a good thing for future kids (as mentioned in that article). Still, I'll close with this: haven't we been giving civil marriages to atheists and Satanists for years? How is that better than homosexuality (and please don't say "Satanists are at least getting married as God designed it"; does God approve of their blatant denying Him and living in sin that way?)? |
Soul Joy Member Posts: 35 From: Hallettsville, TX , USA Registered: 12-18-2002 |
Hello all just a quick post for those who struggle with sexual sin and a site that is dedicated to helping. http://www.mytruefreedom.net/home.htm ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
for one, allowing gay marriage is saying homosexuality is a valid form of marriage or sex. it's really more than just them, we're talking about homosexuality. also, Evolution is not to blame. people been have been going gay for a long time, dating past the roman era, past sodom and gomorrah, to preflood. it's a fallen nature. ------------------ |
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Crptc_Prgrmr Member Posts: 169 From: Registered: 02-05-2002 |
Of course it's fallen human nature, and its part of the reason all life on earth got destroyed the first time. Buttt...Evolution teaching has undermined the biblical foundation of our country. Instead of standing on the historocity of Genesis as the basis for institutions in society, it quickly becomes a matter of "tradition". If you cut anything down to an argument over "tradition", you can be made out to be "stupid", "hypocritical", and dare I mention it, "intolerant". The point is, marriage is supposed to be between a man and a woman. Not because that's the way its always been, but because that's the way it was designed by a loving God to be. Men and woman are made for each-other. PC bull aside, there are more differences between them than the outward appearences (more pronounced actually). You can disobey God's laws, but you pay for it, because His laws are out of love. It's not about forcing people to obey, it's about showing that we, as a people, affirm the foundations of truely loving relationships, and about protecting the rights that true parents are supposed to have, which I guarantee you will erode should this continue. For an example of what happens to a country bogged down in this mess look at Scandanavia (I have relatives there). ------------------ |
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Crptc_Prgrmr Member Posts: 169 From: Registered: 02-05-2002 |
HSLDA has litigated the issues surrounding homeschooling for over 20 years. It is our belief that the fundamental right to direct the upbringing of children, including their education, is largely predicated on the institution of the traditional family and its status in society - a status which predates even the founding of the United States. Should the nature of the traditional family be changed, indeed radically re-defined by the modern state, the constitutional-historical basis of what the family is and its privileges are weakened. We cannot let this happen. Mike Farris This is a major part of the issue. It does affect us. Its not just what others do to themselves. As an example, the two women who started the garbage in Massachusetts are social workers. Think about that one. There have already been too many instances of child abuse by "social" workers. My sister was sexually abused by a woman cop during a faulty arrest. These things will hardly turn heads if this stuff continues. PLEASE DO WHAT YOU CAN. Please call the White House. (202.456.1111). Please call both of your ------------------ |
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ArchAngel Member Posts: 3450 From: SV, CA, USA Registered: 01-29-2002 |
never mess with the homeschoolers. we are going to take over the world. homeschool education is about superior in most ways. much of this nation needs revival... too much freedoms being sold, to many children being killed, too much innocence being destroyed. all in the name of liberalism... ------------------ |
Mack Administrator Posts: 2779 From: Registered: 01-20-2001 |
Thanks for posting the article, it was an interesting read! ------------------ |
silicon_chippy Member Posts: 208 From: Scotland Registered: 10-26-2002 |
Archangel"never mess with the homeschoolers. we are going to take over the world. homeschool education is about superior in most ways. much of this nation needs revival... too much freedoms being sold, to many children being killed, too much innocence being destroyed. all in the name of liberalism..." A proper school is the best education-at least they teach you how to spell too!! ------------------ |
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silicon_chippy Member Posts: 208 From: Scotland Registered: 10-26-2002 |
PS I am against same sex marraiges period. Not because a child will not be brought up in a "loving" environment, but because each child needs role models. I believe that fathers in the western world are undervalued and that each child needs both parents. I would like to add that some fathers NEED to start realising their responsibilities, if they were real Christian men these problems wouldn't arise. ------------------ |
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nfektious Member Posts: 408 From: Registered: 10-25-2002 |
I agree with chippy...but I'd also like to tack on a footnote to his last remark. Many Christian men do need to stand up and be the authority God has defined for them in their marriage and in their family. And in order for this to happen properly - at least in some part - many of the Christian women in leadership positions need to step down and allow men that place. I'm not being sexist, just brutally honest. I've seen many women in prominent positions in the church - who may be over qualified for what they do, no argument there - but they have allowed pride to enter their heart and have, in essence, refused to submit to their spiritual head. Sometimes this even creates problems with other parts of the church and with the pastor[s]. And I have seen what chippy referred to as well - men with no spiritual spine. The truth is that not only would the church be stronger and better on all fronts, but families and homes would improve accordingly...and perhaps the entire country would see real revival. |
